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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
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Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,218 Views)
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Mar 18 2015, 12:12 AM
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- Mar 17 2015, 11:08 PM
So I'm cool with Gohan not wanting the boys to get involved. That's cool they see they're children instead of just power.
Super Saiyan Gohan is awesome and expected. No need to further address that.
I'm happy with how things are going with each character. We certainly had the missing characters of this movie in the first one; let's enjoy the room for the possible new characters to come. It wasn't Gohan. It was dumbass Bulbs who rid Goten and Trunks of the movie. Can't see how it makes sense but OK I guess. Had it been any other character it's an issue but it's Gotenks so WHO CARES LOL.
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Mar 18 2015, 12:27 AM
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- Mar 17 2015, 11:58 PM
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A brainless, spoiled brat who showed no particularily great skill and failed miserably in combat when pushed to fight someone equally.
Not really a good mark on Whis's record
You're wrong about Beerus's skill. He's actually a very good fighter. Piccolo even commented that Beerus was sort of training Goku; teaching him about how pride useless. He is a spoiled brat, but hey, Kame-sennin is a total horndog. Doesn't mean he isn't skilled. Except that when Beers actually fought Goku when properly motivated, he was losing.
When Goku got all mad at him and charged, Beers was the one being forced onto the defensive and barely landed any hits compared to Goku, who landed more decisive ones to boot.
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Mar 18 2015, 12:33 AM
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A brainless, spoiled brat who showed no particularily great skill and failed miserably in combat when pushed to fight someone equally.
Not really a good mark on Whis's record
You're wrong about Beerus's skill. He's actually a very good fighter. Piccolo even commented that Beerus was sort of training Goku; teaching him about how pride useless. He is a spoiled brat, but hey, Kame-sennin is a total horndog. Doesn't mean he isn't skilled.
Except that when Beers actually fought Goku when properly motivated, he was losing. When Goku got all mad at him and charged, Beers was the one being forced onto the defensive and barely landed any hits compared to Goku, who landed more decisive ones to boot. Eh, Beerus was just toying. He knew Goku wasn't the enemy he was looking for. Goku was fighting to keep the Earth from being blown up.
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Mar 18 2015, 12:35 AM
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Mar 18 2015, 12:36 AM
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So Bills confirmed star buster?
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Mar 18 2015, 12:37 AM
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- Mar 18 2015, 12:36 AM
So Bills confirmed star buster? he already was in the last movie
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Mar 18 2015, 12:38 AM
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A brainless, spoiled brat who showed no particularily great skill and failed miserably in combat when pushed to fight someone equally.
Not really a good mark on Whis's record
You're wrong about Beerus's skill. He's actually a very good fighter. Piccolo even commented that Beerus was sort of training Goku; teaching him about how pride useless. He is a spoiled brat, but hey, Kame-sennin is a total horndog. Doesn't mean he isn't skilled.
Except that when Beers actually fought Goku when properly motivated, he was losing. When Goku got all mad at him and charged, Beers was the one being forced onto the defensive and barely landed any hits compared to Goku, who landed more decisive ones to boot.
Eh, Beerus was just toying. He knew Goku wasn't the enemy he was looking for. Goku was fighting to keep the Earth from being blown up. He doesn't look like he's toying when he's screaming his head off as he's flying, gritting his teeth, and making faces of pain as he's hit multiple times. He wasn't using full power, but he wasn't toying.
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Mar 18 2015, 12:40 AM
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He doesn't look like he's toying when he's screaming his head off as he's flying, gritting his teeth, and making faces of pain as he's hit multiple times. He wasn't using full power, but he wasn't toying. Fair enough, but I kind of doubt he was that motivated to begin with.
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Mar 18 2015, 02:01 AM
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- Mar 18 2015, 12:10 AM
Figured I'd inquire about this since scouters are apparently back. These are just arbitrary numbers.
What if one of Freeza's henchmen read Krillin's power level at 400,000? Or Roshi's at a whopping 2,000 (implying secret training)? Or Piccolo's at 1,000,000,000? They're all at full power – no "he was suppressed" or "he was injured" or "he had a rage boost" nonsense.
Would you accept these new BPs, or ignore them? Well, if any levels were stated in this film, I'd really have no choice but to accept them, given that I consider Heya, BoG, and FnF canon. I mean I certainly don't have a problem with the numbers you have provided, barring Piccolo. 1 billion just seems way too low for him at this point in the narrative.
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Mar 18 2015, 03:28 AM
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I was looking forward to an older gotenks :/
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Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock
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Mar 18 2015, 04:28 AM
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- Mar 18 2015, 12:35 AM
Alright guys, enough with the one-word and video-only posts. Try to use coherent words in your posts in the future. LOL
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Mar 18 2015, 04:29 AM
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Mar 18 2015, 05:14 AM
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- Mar 18 2015, 03:28 AM
I was looking forward to an older gotenks :/ Why wouldn't we get one?
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Mar 18 2015, 05:27 AM
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Full Manga Translation via Herms
Spoiler: click to toggle Beerus’ planet Goku and Vegeta are training with Whis He easily dodges their individual attacks, and when they try and hit him together, he dodges out of the way and they smash into each other instead.
Vegeta: “Kakarot!! Your aim’s way off!!!” Goku: “No it isn’t, Vegeta!!!” Whis: “Oh my…” Vegeta: “Just stay out of this, Kakarot!” Vegeta goes at Whis by himself, but Whis dodges and eggs Goku on.
The face of [Super Saiyan?] God faintly appears above Goku.
Whis: “Oh!”
But Whis dodges his attack, and once Vegeta returns the two of them launch another pincher attack. Beerus shows a slight response
Whis: “Alright, stop stop. This is no good. You still aren’t nearly fast enough. Look, I even autographed you.”
His character design picture is signed on Goku and Vegeta’s clothes
Goku: “Ah, when did he-?!” Vegeta: “Kuh” Whis: “Both of you are still thinking first, then acting. Vegeta in particular. It takes time for your nerves to convey things from your senses or brain to your body.” Goku: “Haha…I guess Vegeta really is like that!” Vegeta: “Put a lid on it! How do I know you’re not just an idiot!?” Whis: “You need to have each part of your body think and move on its own, but this is very difficult. Even Lord Beerus hasn’t perfected it yet. It you can master this, then you’ll be able to avoid any danger. Well, it’ll take a lot of time and hard work, but I’ll teach you how. If you give me something tasty in return!” Vegeta: “Are trying to tell me you can move like that?” Whis: “Of course.” Goku: “But Whis, you’ve stepped in some poop.” Whis: “AAAAHHHH!!!”
*Rub-Rub*
Whis: “Hohoho…Well, my shoes can’t think for themselves, after all. *cough* Anyway, Vegeta.” Vegeta: “Wha…What?” Whis: “Even though you’re a gifted fighter, Goku is always one step ahead of you.” Vegeta: “Khh…No beating around the bush with you, is there?...” Whis: “Do you understand why?” Vegeta: “H…How should I know?!” Whis: “You’re always too tense, so you can’t move at full speed when it really counts. Resting when you need to relax is important too. Like Goku does.” Goku: “Haha, he’s right Vegeta.” Whis: “But on the other hand…”
He catches Goku off-guard and hits him in the side
Goku: “Guh!!! Kahaaaa…!! Ow! What’d ya’ do that for…?!” Whis: “Getting too relaxed is also a problem. Another problem is how you overestimate yourself. No matter how strong you may be, your body is weak if you let your guard down. It’s common to see people caught off guard when they’re overconfident.” Vegeta: “Hmph…I suppose you’re right.” Goku: “Ow…owy o wow…N-No way!” Beerus: “…Why is it so noisy...” Goku: “L-Lord Beerus!” Beersu: “How am I supposed to sleep like this?!”
He fires energy blast and destroys a sun (?)
Goku: “Y-Yikes!!! If that had hit me head-on, I’d have been blown to bits…!!!” Whis: “He always gets like this when he’s sleepy. Once, he destroyed two of those suns over there, so everything went pitch dark. It was just awful.”
Beerus goes back to sleep
Goku: “How’d you put the suns back to normal? Can you create stars?!” Whis: “No, in cases like this I simply do things over again” Goku: “Do it over again?” Whis: “I just turn back time a little bit to before he messed up, and give him a good smack.” Vegeta: “Just what the hell are you?!” Whis: “Hohhohohoh, how I should I put this?...I’m a life-form called “Whis”…I suppose.”
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Earth Freeza’s spaceship arrives on the outskirts of North City
Piccolo: “So my nasty premonition was right…” Gohan: “Dende! Tell everyone about this!!” Dende: R-Right!” Gohan: “It’s near North City!”
Gohan and Piccolo fly towards the direction of the ki they sense
Freeza: “Hold on…I’ll clear things up over there.”
He fires a Death Beam at East City East City is wiped out
Freeza: “Hohhohohoh! That’s just my way of saying ‘hello’!” Gohan and Piccolo arrive Gohan: “E-East City…” Freeza: “Heh”
Tenshinhan arrives
Gohan: “Tenshinhan!” Tenshinhan: “I left Chiaotzu and Yamcha behind. It seemed too dangerous.” Gohan: “Bulma ordered me to tell Trunks and Goten not to come, since they’re too reckless.”
Kame-sennin and Kuririn arrive
Kame-sennin: “Sorry I’m late. I went to fetch some senzu from Karin’s tower.” Kuririn: “Are Goku and Vegeta here yet?” Tenshinhan: “Doesn’t look like it.” Kuririn: “Darn them…Well, at least we’ve got Boo…Huh? Where is he!?” Gohan: “He can’t come…Apparently once he goes to sleep, he doesn’t wake up for quite a while…” Kame-sennin: “What?! That’s a big miscalculation…So we’ve got 5 people then, huh?...Gohan! Have you kept up your martial arts training?” Gohan: “Sadly no…My apologies…But I can still become a Super Saiyan…Probably…” Freeza: “Looks like the gang’s all here…” Tenshinhan: “F-Freeza…” Piccolo: “So, it was you who got resurrected with the dragon balls. I suspected as much.” Freeza: “Hasn’t Son Goku arrived yet?” Piccolo: “He’s left this planet to go train elsewhere.” Freeza: “He’s not on Earth? So where is he then?” Tagoma: “Lord Freeza, is that…” ! Tagoma: “Could that be a spaceship?...” Piccolo: “?” Gohan: “Huh?”
Jaco’s spaceship (?) flies in
Freeza: “I see, so he’s come in that spaceship…I’ve been waiting for you, Son Goku.”
My thoughts on that
Spoiler: click to toggle Nice to see Toriyama remembered two things he said about Buu and Yamcha. He said Yamcha and Puar helps Tien and Chaiotzu with the farming. That makes it make sense that Tien can tell him hey stay back, and also retroactively makes Yamchas assessment of all the humans powers make sense, as for Buu! he stated Buu went thru periods of hibernation and that's how Bibidi found him, not created him.
And as for Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks ... Good call Bulma. They've never beat anyone and their attitude is bad, skills are sloppy, and aren't known to train. So they are probably weaker than they were as kids, and even more likely to be as reckless that at Abo/Cado fight. They deflected a major blast at the likes of their mother and friends and needed the others to step in and then needed the dads to stop a planet bursting attack. They are likely fighting around civilians, and the boys are just as likely to kill them off as the goons because of the foolishness they bring. That call was on point by Bulma actually as they've always lost or got absorbed or put everyone in dander or got everyone killed and so on. Bulma pulled a bigger chi chi, you two f ups are benched. Gohan agreeing with her just goes back to him wanting this generation to have a childhood unlike him, as well as Vegeta knocking them out because the battlefield is no place for them at all in his eyes
Also nice to see Roshi never intended to fight, they intended it to be a 7 of Goku, Vegeta, Buu, Gohan, piccolo, Tien, and Krillin. Btw, Roshi went to get senzu beans and he can't fly, so he must've climbed e tower again in a short period of time actually, which implies he's above the 139 level now or at the very least stays active.
First team fails, the second team can be trained if supreme Kai teleports them out. 18, Goten, Trunks, Buu, Yamcha, and Chaotzu could be teleported away and trained if they ended it on a cliffhanger. They have every right to be upset with themselves across the board. Too cowardly to show (Chaotzu, Yamcha), can't be trusted (Goten, Trunks, Gotenks), and wasn't there for his friends because he was behaving like a kid which would explain him being more grown up later in GT and all (Buu)
Bulma Blog with Tien as her Guest via Herms
Spoiler: click to toggle Bulma: Hey, Bulma here! Just 31 days until the premiere! Today we’ve got Tenshinhan!
Tenshinhan: Long time no see.
Bulma: Hey, where’s Chiaotzu?
Tenshinhan: I left him behind. I’ve got no firsthand experience fighting Freeza, but it seems like this’ll be too dangerous for him, even though he’s been training.
Bulma: That’s probably for the best. Safer to leave him back home, like we did with the rug-rats.
Tenshinhan: We can’t let our guard down; this is an enemy even Vegeta was afraid of (even if that was a long time ago). Not to mention the bastard’s bringing 1,000 soldiers with him…Who would have thought his army still had that many people left in it…?!
Bulma: But if you split it up, each of you can just take on 100, right?
Tenshinhan: I can only hope it will be so easy…But this looks like it’ll be my first big fight in a long time. I’ll show the fruits of my training!
My Blog Feelings
Spoiler: click to toggle I like seeing him giving an interview to her, but I'm wondering if we will get to see Bulma reach out to Launch or even someone like Korin/Yajirobe or even Chi chi to get their thoughts leading into things. I think they save Goku and Bulma for the day before release since they are the backbone of the series
* didn't want to clutter things up and I wanted to respect some people not wanting to read some stuff so I used spoiler tags
Edited by Kblo247, Mar 18 2015, 06:36 AM.
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Mar 18 2015, 09:00 AM
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Bulma referring to Goten and Trunks as rugrats implies they are still small.
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