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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,230 Views)
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Nagito Komaeda
Mar 12 2015, 01:15 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Mar 12 2015, 01:07 PM
lazerbem
Mar 12 2015, 12:32 PM
If so much is getting retconned, what makes this canon besides word of god
The real question is why do people think retcons and inconsistencies have any impact on the canonisity of something? Seriously, I suggest you read this:
http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2011/12/21/the-great-canonical-debate/

Anyway, Oh! I think I know where Goten and Trunks are! They're baby sitting Bra during this movie :lol: .

Oh yes, and and the blog updated. Future Trunks!
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こんにちは!ブルマよ!
公開まであと37日!
今日は…ふふふ。驚くわよ~。
なんと未来にいるトランクスから手紙が届いたのよ!
もうトランクスったら、なんていい男なのかしら!

母さん、お元気ですか?
風の噂でそちらの世界でフリーザが復活してしまったということを聞きました。
僕が過去へと行ってしまったせいで、また、僕の知っている過去と変わってきてしまっているようですね…。
あの時あんなに滅多切りにしたうえ、気でかき消したというのに、一体どうやって復活したんでしょうか。
いえ、復活ができないくらい消滅させたことをきちんと確認するべきでした。
僕の甘さがあったから、皆さんにご迷惑をおかけしてしまい申し訳なく思っています。
皆さんはご無事でしょうか。
できることなら僕もまた過去へ行って一緒に戦いたいのですが、きっと孫悟空さんたちは僕が知っているよりも、もっともっと強くなっていることと思います。
父さんもそれに負けないくらい強くなっているのでしょう。
僕も負けないように修行に励んで、未来の地球と母さんを守りますね。
遠くの地からですが、皆さんの勝利をお祈りしてます。
それでは、母さん、父さんもどうかご無事で。

Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!

Hoping this letter finds you well, mother.

I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…

But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.

No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.

Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.

I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.

My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
I honestly can't tell if this is confirmation of him not appearing, or a huge sign that he will be.

Either way, I can't express how nice it is to see something from Future Trunks after so long.
I think it's a sign he will appear in the future. Not this movie but eventually.

And yeah I know right? Hearing from trunks is awesome
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It does look like as if he went Super Saiyan which I thought was quite cool. That theory does a good job at expanding upon this general idea which I appreciate.

I'm kinda bummed out that he lost his trademark purple and white but at the same time it sort of acts a symbol of how much he's above his old self, he feels renewed. It's pretty cool. I really don't get all the hate :p If this was designed back in the Freeza Saga everyone would love this, I feel.
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This is not all that important, but aesthetically speaking I reaaaaaally wish Golden Freeza was Gold and White, and not Gold and Purple. :p It's just kinda weird seeing Frieza's skin purple when his body is shaped like his previous final form, which is white.

#firstworldproblems.

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IT'S BLACK AND BLUE DAMMIT
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Wow. So I wonder how trunks found out??? And it kinda makes sense ig.... maybe since trunks from a different world and time destroyed him he is granted wrongful death??? Idk...
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Mar 12 2015, 03:57 PM
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Mar 12 2015, 03:53 PM
It should be without the cybernetic parts since Shenron cannot replicate those, like with the Androids.

Porunga did them a favor by piecing Krillin back together on his own.
What? Shenron cannot remove the cybernetics from the Artificial Humans because it would kill them if he did, and Shenron can't kill people. Shenron merely returned Freeza to the way was before he died.
He couldn't bring back 16... :|
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Mar 12 2015, 05:37 PM
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sekzee
Mar 12 2015, 03:53 PM
It should be without the cybernetic parts since Shenron cannot replicate those, like with the Androids.

Porunga did them a favor by piecing Krillin back together on his own.
What? Shenron cannot remove the cybernetics from the Artificial Humans because it would kill them if he did, and Shenron can't kill people. Shenron merely returned Freeza to the way was before he died.
He couldn't bring back 16... :|
He didn't have a soul.
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So?
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How do resurrect something that was never alive to begin with?
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Mar 12 2015, 05:50 PM
So?
So why would Shenron revive him?
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Mar 12 2015, 05:49 PM
sekzee
Mar 12 2015, 05:37 PM
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Mar 12 2015, 03:57 PM
sekzee
Mar 12 2015, 03:53 PM
It should be without the cybernetic parts since Shenron cannot replicate those, like with the Androids.

Porunga did them a favor by piecing Krillin back together on his own.
What? Shenron cannot remove the cybernetics from the Artificial Humans because it would kill them if he did, and Shenron can't kill people. Shenron merely returned Freeza to the way was before he died.
He couldn't bring back 16... :|
He didn't have a soul.



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I think it's kind of impossible not to find plotholes with newer dbz films, so perhaps we shouldn't even be trying to understand Freeza's resurrection to begin with as I doubt the people behind the film put as much thought into it as we're doing right now.

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Well, given that Trunks is talking about not destroying Freeza's body parts properly, maybe that's the route they're going down. Either way, there are several different possibilities, so there isn't an inconsistency in that regard.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I don't even know how Shenlong couldn't bring back No. 16. Like let's for sake of things say he can't bring back what made No. 16 tick. At the very least what's stopping him from actually bringing back No. 16's body and just letting someone like Bulma reprogram him? To me, its kind of like if someone broke their toy and Shenlong was like.

"Whoops mate, can't fix your toy, its broken forever..."
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Mar 12 2015, 06:00 PM
I don't even know how Shenlong couldn't bring back No. 16.
It's not that he couldn't, it's that he didn't think to do so. He's merely a machine.
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Yeah, they asked to bring him back to life, no? It's been said before that you've got to be pretty specific with your wording, otherwise a wish could be misinterpreted. Shenron isn't going to go out of his way to do something for the Z-senshi.
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