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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,232 Views)
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Agree with Prince, those [how] many days left to go are just marketing ploys.
Edited by olliebalollie, Mar 12 2015, 03:10 AM.


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Krillin got maimed by Freeza twice, if anything, he should have dibs on it.

If he cuts Freeza in half again with a Kienzan, I would burst out laughing.
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Mar 12 2015, 03:10 AM
Krillin got maimed by Freeza twice, if anything, he should have dibs on it.

If he cuts Freeza in half again with a Kienzan, I would burst out laughing.
But was Kuririn tortured and lorded over for the majority of his life? Vegeta deserves this a hell of a lot more than Kuririn would.
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s*** then Piccolo and Nail deserves it more than anyone.

Besides Vegeta would just be just like Freeza if Freeza didn't rule him.
Do Saiyans deserve to kill Freeza?

Did Roshi deserve to kill Piccolo?

Cmon man.

Did Gotenks or Gohan deserve to kill Boo(actually they did)
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Mar 12 2015, 03:24 AM
s*** then Piccolo and Nail deserves it more than anyone.
Eh, not really. Vegeta's entire race met their end at the hands of Freeza as well.
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Mar 12 2015, 03:25 AM
TheGmGoken
Mar 12 2015, 03:24 AM
s*** then Piccolo and Nail deserves it more than anyone.
Eh, not really. Vegeta's entire race met their end at the hands of Freeza as well.
So did Nameks. Only difference was Namek was brought back. Not the planet though.

So yeah Piccolo deserves it. Nail saw with his own eyes what Freeza did. Least Vegeta was lied too.
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Mar 12 2015, 03:11 AM
lazerbem
Mar 12 2015, 03:10 AM
Krillin got maimed by Freeza twice, if anything, he should have dibs on it.

If he cuts Freeza in half again with a Kienzan, I would burst out laughing.
But was Kuririn tortured and lorded over for the majority of his life? Vegeta deserves this a hell of a lot more than Kuririn would.
Was there ever any evidence Vegeta was tortured? Seriously, this is never really a thing that's brought up

As I say this I hope I didn't forget a line or scene. As for lording over, that's hypocritical, Vegeta lorded over Raditz
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Mar 12 2015, 03:26 AM
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TheGmGoken
Mar 12 2015, 03:24 AM
s*** then Piccolo and Nail deserves it more than anyone.
Eh, not really. Vegeta's entire race met their end at the hands of Freeza as well.
So did Nameks. Only difference was Namek was brought back. Not the planet though.

So yeah Piccolo deserves it. Nail saw with his own eyes what Freeza did. Least Vegeta was lied too.
Can't say I follow your logic.
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Was there ever any evidence Vegeta was tortured? Seriously, this is never really a thing that's brought up

As I say this I hope I didn't forget a line or scene. As for lording over, that's hypocritical, Vegeta lorded over Raditz

He was certainly emotionally tortured as he was brought to tears on Namek, but he was also physically tortured on Namek. Vegeta lorded over Raditz? They were comrades, he just didn't think highly of him. Furthermore, Vegeta's past deeds were atoned for when he was killed, lost his body, and was sent to Hell... twice. He also helped save the universe several times.
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Would anyone like to take a stab at some of the following continuation problems with the manga.

1. EoZ. Goku was hinted as being the stronger of the two. But Fukkatsu is following in the direction that Vegeta being more powerful than Goku.

2. Where is Trunks and Goten in the movie?

3. How will Goku and Vegeta slowly loose their power ups?


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Mar 12 2015, 04:01 AM
Would anyone like to take a stab at some of the following continuation problems with the manga.

1. EoZ. Goku was hinted as being the stronger of the two. But Fukkatsu is following in the direction that Vegeta being more powerful than Goku.

2. Where is Trunks and Goten in the movie?

3. How will Goku and Vegeta slowly loose their power ups?
1. I honestly assume the EoZ is going to be retconned.
2. I don't know. They're probably killed early on, or their reveal is being withheld because of their potentially new designs.
3. They probably won't.
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Mar 12 2015, 03:11 AM
lazerbem
Mar 12 2015, 03:10 AM
Krillin got maimed by Freeza twice, if anything, he should have dibs on it.

If he cuts Freeza in half again with a Kienzan, I would burst out laughing.
But was Kuririn tortured and lorded over for the majority of his life? Vegeta deserves this a hell of a lot more than Kuririn would.
Got to admit that is cruel irony. Goku loses, Vegeta thinks he's going to win, and then whack Krillin from left field cuts him in half and says got ya b*** .... Goku would laugh and Vegeta would break the 4th wall
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If so much is getting retconned, what makes this canon besides word of god
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Mar 12 2015, 12:32 PM
If so much is getting retconned, what makes this canon besides word of god
The real question is why do people think retcons and inconsistencies have any impact on the canonisity of something? Seriously, I suggest you read this:
http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2011/12/21/the-great-canonical-debate/

Anyway, Oh! I think I know where Goten and Trunks are! They're baby sitting Bra during this movie :lol: .

Oh yes, and and the blog updated. Future Trunks!
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こんにちは!ブルマよ!
公開まであと37日!
今日は…ふふふ。驚くわよ~。
なんと未来にいるトランクスから手紙が届いたのよ!
もうトランクスったら、なんていい男なのかしら!

母さん、お元気ですか?
風の噂でそちらの世界でフリーザが復活してしまったということを聞きました。
僕が過去へと行ってしまったせいで、また、僕の知っている過去と変わってきてしまっているようですね…。
あの時あんなに滅多切りにしたうえ、気でかき消したというのに、一体どうやって復活したんでしょうか。
いえ、復活ができないくらい消滅させたことをきちんと確認するべきでした。
僕の甘さがあったから、皆さんにご迷惑をおかけしてしまい申し訳なく思っています。
皆さんはご無事でしょうか。
できることなら僕もまた過去へ行って一緒に戦いたいのですが、きっと孫悟空さんたちは僕が知っているよりも、もっともっと強くなっていることと思います。
父さんもそれに負けないくらい強くなっているのでしょう。
僕も負けないように修行に励んで、未来の地球と母さんを守りますね。
遠くの地からですが、皆さんの勝利をお祈りしてます。
それでは、母さん、父さんもどうかご無事で。

Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!

Hoping this letter finds you well, mother.

I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…

But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.

No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.

Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.

I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.

My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
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Mar 12 2015, 01:07 PM
lazerbem
Mar 12 2015, 12:32 PM
If so much is getting retconned, what makes this canon besides word of god
The real question is why do people think retcons and inconsistencies have any impact on the canonisity of something? Seriously, I suggest you read this:
http://www.vegettoex.com/blog/2011/12/21/the-great-canonical-debate/

Anyway, Oh! I think I know where Goten and Trunks are! They're baby sitting Bra during this movie :lol: .

Oh yes, and and the blog updated. Future Trunks!
Kanzenshuu
 
こんにちは!ブルマよ!
公開まであと37日!
今日は…ふふふ。驚くわよ~。
なんと未来にいるトランクスから手紙が届いたのよ!
もうトランクスったら、なんていい男なのかしら!

母さん、お元気ですか?
風の噂でそちらの世界でフリーザが復活してしまったということを聞きました。
僕が過去へと行ってしまったせいで、また、僕の知っている過去と変わってきてしまっているようですね…。
あの時あんなに滅多切りにしたうえ、気でかき消したというのに、一体どうやって復活したんでしょうか。
いえ、復活ができないくらい消滅させたことをきちんと確認するべきでした。
僕の甘さがあったから、皆さんにご迷惑をおかけしてしまい申し訳なく思っています。
皆さんはご無事でしょうか。
できることなら僕もまた過去へ行って一緒に戦いたいのですが、きっと孫悟空さんたちは僕が知っているよりも、もっともっと強くなっていることと思います。
父さんもそれに負けないくらい強くなっているのでしょう。
僕も負けないように修行に励んで、未来の地球と母さんを守りますね。
遠くの地からですが、皆さんの勝利をお祈りしてます。
それでは、母さん、父さんもどうかご無事で。

Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!

Hoping this letter finds you well, mother.

I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…

But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.

No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.

Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.

I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.

My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
I honestly can't tell if this is confirmation of him not appearing, or a huge sign that he will be.

Either way, I can't express how nice it is to see something from Future Trunks after so long.
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Vegeta would not have turned out the same if Freeza hadn't taken him. He probably would have still been a little bastard but he'd certainly be massively different. He wouldn't cling to his pride and place so much in being the last and strongest representation of his species for one.
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