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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,252 Views)
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Mar 3 2015, 10:42 AM
Sigh. There is still no word on Goten and Trunks. I am starting to think that AT simply forgot about them. I was very surprised that we didn't get to see them in the trailer.
They have no reason to be in it besides to die upon sight for looking like Goku and the other Trunks
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I'm not sure I believe these subtitles are 100% accurate.

EDIT: But the idea of Vegeta being offered to return to the dark side and maybe, like someone said a few pages back - fighting smart and agreeing to trick Freeza, kinda makes sense. Would explain that look he's giving Goku. It's a "I'm sorry please trust me" blank stare.

But what's with the colon indicating Vegeta's speech or speech at Vegeta when it's Bills talking and makes no sense after the prior part unless it's directed at Goku?

Edit2: Said Freeza when I meant Vegeta, pissbuckets corrected it now.
Edited by SaiyanHajime, Mar 3 2015, 11:20 AM.
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Mar 3 2015, 11:04 AM
I'm not sure I believe these subtitles are 100% accurate.
I'm not either but it's the best there is right now.

Edit: I can't see a way in which Freeza would ever trust Vegeta anyway. He's been defeated and killed by 2 separate ssjs and Vegeta is far stronger than they were then. Why would Freeza even entertain the idea of Vegeta commanding his forces?
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Mar 3 2015, 11:08 AM
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Mar 3 2015, 11:04 AM
I'm not sure I believe these subtitles are 100% accurate.
I'm not either but it's the best there is right now.

Edit: I can't see a way in which Freeza would ever trust Vegeta anyway. He's been defeated and killed by 2 separate ssjs and Vegeta is far stronger than they were then. Why would Freeza even entertain the idea of Vegeta commanding his forces?
The Vegeta Freeza knows is a very different person though. I like the idea that Vegeta is fighting smart, which WAS his thing, and is able to use his transformation personality wise to trick Freeza, who will have no idea that he's... Not a colossal prick anymore.

Not as much of a colossal prick.

And maybe Vegeta is able to somehow hide that he's as powerful as he is?
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Mar 3 2015, 10:42 AM
Sigh. There is still no word on Goten and Trunks. I am starting to think that AT simply forgot about them. I was very surprised that we didn't get to see them in the trailer.


It would be a saving grace if AT forgot about them, at least they wouldn't be completely ruined like Gohan.
I'm above all shocked at how Gohan is being treated, and regarding these movies every time there's a new info a new level of s*** is reached.

I wonder what is the point to write such a legendary manga (because, even if the manga is far from being perfect and it has its flaws, sitll it is legendary) if after 20 years you are going to RUIN it with horrid pieces of crap (and i'm being polite) which are these new movies...
I wouldn't never have thought to say this even only two years ago before these things got released, but now I'm completely on FollowTheLeader side: cut this crap AT and spare DragonBall's dignity.
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Google translate, which is by no means perfect and can't work on context like a human...

In the first statement by Bills, right at the end he says what sounds like "hotoda". Google translate picks up hotoda, but doesn't translate it. It usually does this with names. But "ホトだ" (literally hotoda) google translates as "I photo". I foresee? I picture? It does work with the translation given, the "you brought this (picture, current event, reality = photo) upon yourself" In that first part I've also picked up "You're stupid" which also runs in line with "you brought this upon yourself." I also get the translation "grown up" a lot. Again, that works.

Google translate seems to think that second part bills says is something along the lines of "this is the end of the world". Almost every time I record it picks up the word "world" and it also picks up the word "comparatively" a heck of a lot, but maybe that's just something that sounds similar and a red herring. Either way "You're history" works, especially if the translation given as "You Are" in the video is actually more like the German "ihr" that we don't really have in English, which means "all of you" or "y'all". That would make sense. I don't know enough about how Japanese is structured, though.

So yeah maybe it is right, but why the "Vegeta:" part???
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Frieza's form is not that bad , I guess I like it a bit.
So Gohan is losing fast again and piccolo might get a rage boost ? That would be insane.
Maybe gohan is vegeta in movies , always losing ( fast ?) ...
Anyway , they forgot goten and trunks ? I mean , they have roshi in trailer and not the kids ?
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Maybe the kids are being saved for a big reveal. They should have had that saiyan growth spurt by now.
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On the subject of Vegeta being a double agent, the day Vegeta does anything subtle is when pigs fly. Regardless, Freeza trusting him would be moronic, Vegeta already betrayed him very openly
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Mar 3 2015, 12:21 PM
On the subject of Vegeta being a double agent, the day Vegeta does anything subtle is when pigs fly. Regardless, Freeza trusting him would be moronic, Vegeta already betrayed him very openly
Vegeta has been slightly different in each arc. Maybe you'll like the version in this film. Don't let Vegeta's past incarnations automatically make you hate anything and everything he does.

Edit: You're right about Freeza though. His arrogance would truly know no bounds if he's willing to reinstate and promote Vegeta.

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Mar 3 2015, 12:21 PM
On the subject of Vegeta being a double agent, the day Vegeta does anything subtle is when pigs fly. Regardless, Freeza trusting him would be moronic, Vegeta already betrayed him very openly
You're probably right - is Freezer then trying to trick Vegeta?

I dunno though, Vegeta's changed a heck of a lot. Freezer won't know that.

I know you don't like Vegeta and YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION butitisawrongopinion. ;P But it does mean you're likley to be a bit more unbias.

I think it'll be more of a pigs fly moment if Vegeta is actually the main hero in this. Or even equal to Goku.
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There's no way that Freeza didn't think that Vegeta would betray him eventually; he just didn't care because he was unbelievably stronger than him. That'll be the case now as well; he's much stronger than Vegeta and has the potential to get even stronger, Vegeta wouldn't pose a huge threat to him. Of course, he could just make the offer, then laugh it off with a ''As if I'd actually do that''.

Piccolo getting a rage boost is pure speculation. We see him standing over Gohan, but we don't see if that's before or after he's fought. Furthermore, Piccolo could go against Freeza, get wrecked, then get back up and fight the guy he's fighting in the screenshot. It's all well and good talking about 'ifs', but treat them as possibilities, not likelihoods.
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That trailer was awesome! I was fuking worried how they're gonna make Freeza stronger by training on 4 months. Maybe the training was for the God form or his new form and I love how the Z shenshi are fighting against Freeza's soldiers especially the pervert Roshi.

Beerus and Whis were just watching just like how Old Kaioshin, King Kai, Kibito Kai etc., by the way seems like the earth was destroyed at the end.
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Mar 3 2015, 10:42 AM
Sigh. There is still no word on Goten and Trunks. I am starting to think that AT simply forgot about them. I was very surprised that we didn't get to see them in the trailer.
I'm just gonna assume they get killed pretty early on.
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