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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,261 Views)
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This is a huge quoting pyramide.

Please :'(
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So what happened with Frieza coming back to life? Did we figure that out? They put his body back together which shouldnt even be possible since he was vaporized. What the f***?
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Mar 2 2015, 12:35 AM
Freeza's men don't have to be up there with Majin Boo do they? Not all of them.

We don't know wjat happened to Gohan. He might have taken a shot at Freeza. Maybe one guy comes close to his level, but even then he only needs to be close to get in a good cheap shot. Like, maybe he tanks a blast to save Videl like he did for Vegeta.

Next in line is Piccolo. He shouldn't be much stronger than his Cell Games self. Then the rest of the Z Fighters. The way I see it, Freeza needs only a single guy to rival Gohan and also deal with Piccolo.The rest of his PTO guys just need to rival Krillin, and that isnt even close to final form Freeza.

I can handle one henchman being that strong. The universe is a big place.
I'm not expecting Gohan to be taken out by a henchman. I'm just saying if it happens then it's silly.

Freeza made a lot of noise about being 'the strongest in the universe' for 1000s of years potentially. Nobody stepped up in all that time and now just a few years later they happen to be powering up at the same time as the Earth's fighters.

The universe is a big place but ours is very, very sparse. Look up the Fermi Paradox.
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Mar 2 2015, 12:44 AM
So what happened with Frieza coming back to life? Did we figure that out? They put his body back together which shouldnt even be possible since he was vaporized. What the f***?
They brought him back in the pieces he was sliced up in. That's what's shown in the manga version. Frieza survived being cut in half, blasted, and the planet blowing up with hardly any energy left. He could survive being in pieces. The manga also mentions that the PTO has upgraded their medical equipment even further and could put him back together without the enhancements now in a healing pod as long as he had a life signal. He then kills off a mouthy a*** guy when he's back together and declares he will do what the earthlings do, train. It seems he made them all train.

And honestly it's not shocking the PTO, all mostly mutants can get stronger. The grunts we meet when krillin and Gohan touch down on Namek are stronger than the z fighters before Raditz. And even with all the training for Nappaa no Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin wouldn't be able to handle a 6-10 grunts easily by themselves. Appule was a throw away character but was as string as Nappa. Cui didn't train or try to improve but rivaled Vegeta who touched down on earth. Zarbon and Dadoria were stronger than them all without training, the Ginyus a step above, the captain a bigger step, and Frieza was born as a 9 figure fighter while his dad was an 8 figure fighter. If they trained hard or died, and we all know Frieza would kill a slacker, they can at least be relevant to where the guys were when Frieza came to earth.
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Mar 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Ssj3vegito96
Mar 2 2015, 12:44 AM
So what happened with Frieza coming back to life? Did we figure that out? They put his body back together which shouldnt even be possible since he was vaporized. What the f***?
They brought him back in the pieces he was sliced up in. That's what's shown in the manga version. Frieza survived being cut in half, blasted, and the planet blowing up with hardly any energy left. He could survive being in pieces. The manga also mentions that the PTO has upgraded their medical equipment even further and could put him back together without the enhancements now in a healing pod as long as he had a life signal. He then kills off a mouthy a*** guy when he's back together and declares he will do what the earthlings do, train. It seems he made them all train.

And honestly it's not shocking the PTO, all mostly mutants can get stronger. The grunts we meet when krillin and Gohan touch down on Namek are stronger than the z fighters before Raditz. And even with all the training for Nappaa no Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin wouldn't be able to handle a 6-10 grunts easily by themselves. Appule was a throw away character but was as string as Nappa. Cui didn't train or try to improve but rivaled Vegeta who touched down on earth. Zarbon and Dadoria were stronger than them all without training, the Ginyus a step above, the captain a bigger step, and Frieza was born as a 9 figure fighter while his dad was an 8 figure fighter. If they trained hard or died, and we all know Frieza would kill a slacker, they can at least be relevant to where the guys were when Frieza came to earth.
But then why are they saiyans considered a powerful warrior race who were a threat to Freeza's empire if they are actually naturally weaker than the majority of Freeza's forces? "Ooooo we'd better be carful around these saiyans....or just do a few push ups every day."
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Mar 2 2015, 12:50 AM
Ssj3vegito96
Mar 2 2015, 12:44 AM
So what happened with Frieza coming back to life? Did we figure that out? They put his body back together which shouldnt even be possible since he was vaporized. What the f***?
They brought him back in the pieces he was sliced up in. That's what's shown in the manga version. Frieza survived being cut in half, blasted, and the planet blowing up with hardly any energy left. He could survive being in pieces. The manga also mentions that the PTO has upgraded their medical equipment even further and could put him back together without the enhancements now in a healing pod as long as he had a life signal. He then kills off a mouthy a*** guy when he's back together and declares he will do what the earthlings do, train. It seems he made them all train.

And honestly it's not shocking the PTO, all mostly mutants can get stronger. The grunts we meet when krillin and Gohan touch down on Namek are stronger than the z fighters before Raditz. And even with all the training for Nappaa no Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin wouldn't be able to handle a 6-10 grunts easily by themselves. Appule was a throw away character but was as string as Nappa. Cui didn't train or try to improve but rivaled Vegeta who touched down on earth. Zarbon and Dadoria were stronger than them all without training, the Ginyus a step above, the captain a bigger step, and Frieza was born as a 9 figure fighter while his dad was an 8 figure fighter. If they trained hard or died, and we all know Frieza would kill a slacker, they can at least be relevant to where the guys were when Frieza came to earth.
So when trunks cut him into pieces he was still alive? Lol that sucks.

But why does he have to wished back in pieces? Shenron can't wish him back fresh?
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They glued him together. He even fell apart once.
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Mar 2 2015, 01:25 AM
They glued him together. He even fell apart once.
i heard it took them 4 months to put him back together
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Mar 2 2015, 01:28 AM
StrawHatCrew
Mar 2 2015, 01:25 AM
They glued him together. He even fell apart once.
i heard it took them 4 months to put him back together
Geez that's some project
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None of them trained. Not the PTO which was mutants, not the Saiyans , and not the nameks. Its an earth thing to do.

Even if you go back to episode of Bardocks mini story which gives us their history a little bit more, we the idea that no one trains. The Saiyans all get their strength from battle and coming back and healing. That's why Bardocks group got noticed, they kept surviving, healing, getting stronger bit by bit. So Frieza and crew just killed them before they got stronger over trying to improve themselves. That's a trend with them. Even in canon, Ginyus solution to get stronger isn't to train, it's to body jump.

Goku trains because he was raised on earth. Vegeta trained after he settled down on earth from Namek. Piccolo trains because he lives on earth. Nappa is outright shocked the guys on earth all jumped from below 300 to over 1000 in a year, so that tells you he doesn't train. Jeice and Burter are shocked that there are two people they don't know of who are over 10,000 when Gohan and Krillin power up. Ginyu said it was impossible for a Saiyan to be 6 figures. Nail got the taboo power up from guru to serve as his protector, but even he looks at piccolo half in awe while dying.

My point is they wouldn't train, hell they don't seem to know what training is outside earth. And as far as Frieza goes, he and his dad would think they are the strongest there was. Yakon comes from a planet no one inhabits and visits, Dabura comes from a Demon realm sort of like a canon Garlic Jr, and Pui Pui also comes from a place that's unknown and isn't reachable without magic.


But the fact is these guys who don't train are superior to these guys who spend their whole life training at the introduction of Z. The fact is Vegeta had been on mission for years on end and wasn't more than a match for Cui.

Frieza in the manga says we are going to do what they do, we will train. It isn't said how hard or where he trains, but if they can create a chamber that heals him totally now 2 decades later, it's not crazy to think they can create a gravity machine that's a rival for Bulma and Dr Briefs.


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We were told once before that shenron can't impact cybernetics. If he could, he would have reconstructed 16. He would have turned 17 and 18 human. He can remove them to some degree like the android bombs, but his power on them is very limited.
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i've come to live with Freiza getting absurdly strong in a couple months but for the love of god please don't make the fight scenes like BOG

all hype and no action
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Battle of gods fight scenes were all over the place. I hate this habit toei animation has. They love to zoom in and its annoying as hell. You can't see s***
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Mar 2 2015, 01:33 AM
None of them trained. Not the PTO which was mutants, not the Saiyans , and not the nameks. Its an earth thing to do.

Even if you go back to episode of Bardocks mini story which gives us their history a little bit more, we the idea that no one trains. The Saiyans all get their strength from battle and coming back and healing. That's why Bardocks group got noticed, they kept surviving, healing, getting stronger bit by bit. So Frieza and crew just killed them before they got stronger over trying to improve themselves. That's a trend with them. Even in canon, Ginyus solution to get stronger isn't to train, it's to body jump.

Goku trains because he was raised on earth. Vegeta trained after he settled down on earth from Namek. Piccolo trains because he lives on earth. Nappa is outright shocked the guys on earth all jumped from below 300 to over 1000 in a year, so that tells you he doesn't train. Jeice and Burter are shocked that there are two people they don't know of who are over 10,000 when Gohan and Krillin power up. Ginyu said it was impossible for a Saiyan to be 6 figures. Nail got the taboo power up from guru to serve as his protector, but even he looks at piccolo half in awe while dying.

My point is they wouldn't train, hell they don't seem to know what training is outside earth. And as far as Frieza goes, he and his dad would think they are the strongest there was. Yakon comes from a planet no one inhabits and visits, Dabura comes from a Demon realm sort of like a canon Garlic Jr, and Pui Pui also comes from a place that's unknown and isn't reachable without magic.


But the fact is these guys who don't train are superior to these guys who spend their whole life training at the introduction of Z. The fact is Vegeta had been on mission for years on end and wasn't more than a match for Cui.

Frieza in the manga says we are going to do what they do, we will train. It isn't said how hard or where he trains, but if they can create a chamber that heals him totally now 2 decades later, it's not crazy to think they can create a gravity machine that's a rival for Bulma and Dr Briefs.


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We were told once before that shenron can't impact cybernetics. If he could, he would have reconstructed 16. He would have turned 17 and 18 human. He can remove them to some degree like the android bombs, but his power on them is very limited.
I guess it'd be okay but it just means that the z fighters have always had a massive unfair advantage in every fight they've ever been in and are actually quite weak.
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Mar 2 2015, 01:40 AM
Battle of gods fight scenes were all over the place. I hate this habit toei animation has. They love to zoom in and its annoying as hell. You can't see s***
not too mention it was so short but according to Toriyama it will have more action this time around but i'm not getting my hopes up
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I'm really hoping this movie is darker. And it looks like it is. Battle of gods was waaay light hearted
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