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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,266 Views)
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superperfectnerd
Feb 28 2015, 05:31 PM
A guy who's on Zarbon's level?
There's no telling where he'll be when the times comes to actually fight. Unless you want Piccolo fighting Freeza, an opponent who would make an utter fool of him in less than a second.
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will Zarbon appear ?
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Will Dodoria?
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Old gang needs to reunite !
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I hope Appule comes back. Yamcha needs a decent fight.
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The negativity regarding this film in other settings is mind boggling, and frankly annoying. I figure I'd take the time to address any concerns regarding the plot:
1. "Freeza has clearly trained before, the manga says so!"
-No, the manga implies no such thing. Freeza claiming his father was the only one who's ever harmed him just means Cold was violent.
2. "Freeza getting stronger than Super Saiyajin God in 4 months!? That's f***ing dumb!"
-I'll admit it's ridiculous, but that's not as ridiculous as Piccolo getting over 10 times stronger in 6 days while simply meditating on Kaio's planet. Don't even get me started on the fact that Freeza was born with an unbelievably sky high battle power. Just imagine how much untapped potential Freeza has!
3. "Ugh, Gohan is a Super Saiyajin again!? Stahp!"
-We don't even know the context of this situation.... Even if it's not explained, is really so unbelievable that Gohan extended his limits so that he can use SSJ effectively again? It wouldn't be the first time someone surpassed their limits. This is f***ing Dragon Ball for crying out loud.
4. "Freeza is dumb for never having trained before."
-Umm, who's to say he even considered the potential of training himself prior to meeting the Zetto Senshii?

This is also Dragon Ball guys. Try not to take it too seriously. Dragon Ball has never had a particularly strong narrative. The manga itself has it's fair share of inconsistencies.
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I hate Piccolo.
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Feb 28 2015, 03:21 AM
TBH, I would take Piccolo over Vegeta to be the main protagonist of the film. Maybe that's just me.
Me too , even though i'm a Vegeta fan. :lol: Veggie does not deserve to be a hero. It won't be him anymore ...
Someone is hating Piccolo ? :'(
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Feb 28 2015, 10:32 PM
I hope Appule comes back. Yamcha needs a decent fight.
Appule is too strong. We need Ginyu the Frog.
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Feb 28 2015, 10:35 PM
The negativity regarding this film in other settings is mind boggling, and frankly annoying. I figure I'd take the time to address any concerns regarding the plot:
1. "Freeza has clearly trained before, the manga says so!"
-No, the manga implies no such thing. Freeza claiming his father was the only one who's ever harmed him just means Cold was violent.
2. "Freeza getting stronger than Super Saiyajin God in 4 months!? That's f***ing dumb!"
-I'll admit it's ridiculous, but that's not as ridiculous as Piccolo getting over 10 times stronger in 6 days while simply meditating on Kaio's planet. Don't even get me started on the fact that Freeza was born with an unbelievably sky high battle power. Just imagine how much untapped potential Freeza has!
3. "Ugh, Gohan is a Super Saiyajin again!? Stahp!"
-We don't even know the context of this situation.... Even if it's not explained, is really so unbelievable that Gohan extended his limits so that he can use SSJ effectively again? It wouldn't be the first time someone surpassed their limits. This is f***ing Dragon Ball for crying out loud.
4. "Freeza is dumb for never having trained before."
-Umm, who's to say he even considered the potential of training himself prior to meeting the Zetto Senshii?

This is also Dragon Ball guys. Try not to take it too seriously. Dragon Ball has never had a particularly strong narrative. The manga itself has it's fair share of inconsistencies.
I'm still looking forward to it and I'll undoubtedly still enjoy it but I can only react to what I know so far. Freeza's power increase may not be that far-fetched when compared to other parts of the series but those parts are equally stupid, so that doesn't make it better. They don't ruin DragonBall for me but there are many parts which I think could have been done better, from what I'm hearing so far, this may be another one of those. Believe it or not you are allowed to critique something you love and individual opinions do matter.

You mentioned Piccolo's power up in 6 days of meditation. That's just another annoying moment and could have easily been made less ridiculous by Freeza and everyone else's power in that saga not jumping up to quite the extremes that they did. I mean Freeza's first form was less than 0.5% of his full power...there's no need for that.

Lord Enma's imprisonment of Freeza could have been a temporary punishment (1000 years or something) before his ki/soul was purified or whatever. That way it doesn't contradict what was already implied about bad guys losing their bodies - Freeza just ticked Enma off more than most. Freeza could then bring something back with him from hell (somewhere nobody has returned from before) whether it's information or a device which gives him the power he needs...rather than training for 4 measly months because he can now be bothered, even though he was aware of threats that could easily wipe him out.
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Freeza having trained before is supported by him only needing to "polish" his skills as well as being fairly even in melee combat with Piccolo
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Feb 26 2015, 04:03 PM
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Feb 26 2015, 03:56 PM
superperfectnerd
Feb 26 2015, 02:33 PM
Hang on a minute. If Freeza could be regenerated from pieces by just being chucked in a regeneration tank, then why didn't Cold just put what was left of Freeza in a tank after finding him in space, instead of giving him a mechanical makeover?
The technology simply wasn't available at the time.
The planet trade organization is meant to have fallen into chaos without their leader and yet they're making wondrous medical breakthroughs.
it was the best of times it was the worst of times
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Feb 28 2015, 10:51 PM
I hate Piccolo.
im going to special beam cannon u right in the head
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Pyrus
Feb 28 2015, 10:51 PM
I hate Piccolo.
It's coming...

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My Dear Melancholy,

Prince. They have an opinion too you know. What if someone turnt the tables on you and said "The love for this film is mind boggling and annoying *insert list*". People aren't forced to like this. The movie even got a manga preview that can support or change their opinions.

Be positive! Just hype yourself up like I do. I can give you an example if needed. I'm hype for the movie.
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