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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,290 Views)
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I don't mind huge power ups. Screw it! Enjoy the show! I'm sure there will be a great reason or training method anyways.

We should all pretend we're 5 again so we can appreciate this movie to the fullest.
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Normally I would be peeved with this 4 months thing, but eh, I guess my slight indifference to power levels that has been accumulated over the years has taught me to not give as much of a sh** :lol: . I for one am stoked for this film.
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Feb 18 2015, 10:10 PM
Normally I would be peeved with this 4 months thing, but eh, I guess my slight indifference to power levels that has been accumulated over the years has taught me to not give as much of a sh** :lol: . I for one am stoked for this film.
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Huge gains? Whatever. Anything is better than him training in Hell.
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What I don't understand is Freeza's logic. Why did he allow for himself to be so weak compared to the likes of Boo (whom he knew existed) if he could get to god levels in 4 months? And why is he only training for 4 months in this film? Surely he'd just go "well, if I return to Earth now it'll be a close and entertaining fight....or I could just give it another 4 months and become millions of times stronger and have no trouble at all." Unless he hits his absolute max power in 4 months.

I'd much prefer Freeza getting an unnatural power up he acquires through cunning and manipulation...not just boring old training. Plus they could make any ludicrous gains make sense with outside help.
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Feb 19 2015, 03:38 PM
What I don't understand is Freeza's logic. Why did he allow for himself to be so weak compared to the likes of Boo (whom he knew existed) if he could get to god levels in 4 months? And why is he only training for 4 months in this film? Surely he'd just go "well, if I return to Earth now it'll be a close and entertaining fight....or I could just give it another 4 months and become millions of times stronger and have no trouble at all." Unless he hits his absolute max power in 4 months.

I'd much prefer Freeza getting an unnatural power up he acquires through cunning and manipulation...not just boring old training. Plus they could make any ludicrous gains make sense with outside help.
Freeza probably couldn't have accomplished what he has in mind at the time of his rule. I honestly doubt Toriyama would have Freeza preform simple training regiments to surpass the gods. The guy may be ridiculous at times, but I don't think he's THAT ridiculous.
EDIT: Freeza is also a busy fellow. Perhaps he didn't have time to train :lol: .
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Maybe his ability to 'survive anywhere' will allow him some pretty advanced training? Maybe his time in hell somehow revealed a place where he could advance quickly.
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Feb 19 2015, 03:38 PM
I'd much prefer Freeza getting an unnatural power up he acquires through cunning and manipulation...not just boring old training. Plus they could make any ludicrous gains make sense with outside help.
Enter Babidi's "son", Bo-diggity. He releases Freeza's ridiculous potential (because he's never trained a day in his life... and that's how this stuff works... right...). Done.

...it worries me when terrible fanfiction (not the example above) have better premise than the official works.
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Bearing in mind that Freeza doesn't know how strong Goku is in Battle of Gods...

All we can garner from his statement is that Freeza (Post-training) > SSJ3 Goku (Boo Saga)

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Feb 18 2015, 02:21 PM
Freeza knew about Boo and had the ability to quickly gain power through training and yet sat on his keister allowing himself to be an utter weakling compared to the likes of Boo, Dsbura and Yakon and yet arrogantly proclaimed himself 'the strongest in the universe'?
Frieza is just weird.



and how do u know that Frieza knew about Buu ?
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In the dialogue from the manga adaptation one of his henchmen tell him that Goku has surpassed Boo and Freeza says something like "that's more than I expected but I'm a prodigy and if I train etc etc".
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For me personally Freeza would have to get around 4000 times stronger to surpass Kid Boo levels of power (note, i used SEG Multipliers for less headaches). So he would have to get around 130 something times stronger than 120,000,000 each month to reach those SSJ3 levels of power. 33 times stronger a week (more or less) isn't out of possibility. That's some mad gains, but Goku on Namek jumped from around 8000 to around 3,000,000 (less or more) in a week. So I'm fairly content with the gains Freeza will supposedly be making.

At this point though, I'm just going to watch it and try to just take it in as it is. I feel I'll get some good enjoyment out of it. Looking forward to Freeza's new transformation as well. (not saying it's going to be similar to Cooler's 5th form but... I really hope it is. That form looked badass)
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Feb 19 2015, 09:23 PM
For me personally Freeza would have to get around 4000 times stronger to surpass Kid Boo levels of power (note, i used SEG Multipliers for less headaches). So he would have to get around 130 something times stronger than 120,000,000 each month to reach those SSJ3 levels of power. 33 times stronger a week (more or less) isn't out of possibility. That's some mad gains, but Goku on Namek jumped from around 8000 to around 3,000,000 (less or more) in a week. So I'm fairly content with the gains Freeza will supposedly be making.

At this point though, I'm just going to watch it and try to just take it in as it is. I feel I'll get some good enjoyment out of it. Looking forward to Freeza's new transformation as well. (not saying it's going to be similar to Cooler's 5th form but... I really hope it is. That form looked badass)
What? Freeza would have to get a little over 1.6 times stronger every week(~8 times stronger every month) for those 4 months to attain a level 4,000 times greater than his original level.
120,000,000 x ~1.63^17 = ~485,000,000,000
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Feb 19 2015, 10:24 PM
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Feb 19 2015, 09:23 PM
For me personally Freeza would have to get around 4000 times stronger to surpass Kid Boo levels of power (note, i used SEG Multipliers for less headaches). So he would have to get around 130 something times stronger than 120,000,000 each month to reach those SSJ3 levels of power. 33 times stronger a week (more or less) isn't out of possibility. That's some mad gains, but Goku on Namek jumped from around 8000 to around 3,000,000 (less or more) in a week. So I'm fairly content with the gains Freeza will supposedly be making.

At this point though, I'm just going to watch it and try to just take it in as it is. I feel I'll get some good enjoyment out of it. Looking forward to Freeza's new transformation as well. (not saying it's going to be similar to Cooler's 5th form but... I really hope it is. That form looked badass)
What? Freeza would have to get a little over 1.6 times stronger every week(~8 times stronger every month) for those 4 months to attain a level 4,000 times greater than his original level.
120,000,000 x ~1.63^17 = ~485,000,000,000
Never was good at explaining my conclusion lol. Just looked back and realized that through the method I explained, Freeza would end up weaker than SSJ2 Gohan. Also, 33 times stronger than 120 million each week is what I should've said.

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I don't really see anything bad about the movie at the moment. I'm still hyped for the movie. I'm hoping to see beerus fighting alongside Goku and vegeta. Oh man that would be sick.

It comes out sometime in April right?
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