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Who is the strongest in the SSB Verse
Topic Started: Nov 17 2014, 02:38 AM (2,494 Views)
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I read a thread on who would win a fight between kirby (With a Majin buu ability) and Buu and some where along the lines people were talking about who were the strongest in smash.

If where going to do this im excluding Archie Sonic (Since it isnt cannon and isnt made by sega). Only Video Game Sonic.

Here are some Feats from the cast.

Ganondorf: Having a piece of the omniscient Triforce, left by by the three Golden Godesses (The triforce of power) Ganondorf has immortality and other powers at his disposal.
Feats:Took out the holy Sages of earth (These Sages where said to keep balance in the world)/ Survived the Sages execution.
He also can make an endless night foe earth.

Donkey Kong: Punched the moon out of orbit (Best Feat).

Wario: He is stated to be the only human in his verse to rival DK in strength.
Feats:Took down the Shake King (Some one who took over a alternate earth/dimension)
Took out the Black Jewel (The God Jewel)
Took out Rudy The Clown (Evil Demon)
Can pile drive a T-rex
Can cause earthquakes just from pounding the ground

Mario: Beat Wario in thier first battle with skill, Beat Cranky Kong in his Prime, Beat Bowser numerous times.

Meta Knight:Can strike and react at the speed of sound
Also beat Galacta Knight (Strongest being in his verse)

Sonic:Runs at the speed of sound.

Captain Falcon:Lit up a small portion of a Galaxy with his Falcon Punch that killed Black Shadow.
Stalemated Blood Falcon.

Thats all i really know who do you think is the strongest.
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Nov 20 2014, 07:50 PM
Look all we're saying is that speed and skill are not synonymous. If that was true, then usain bolt could beat Jason David Frank in a fight. And I'll be damned if Cool Runnings beats the Green Ranger in a fight. No one is dumb enough to think that because someone is fast they automatically know how to fight. Unless you've never been in a physical altercation EVER!!!
I never suggested they knew how to fight, I'm saying Sonic can tag Mario hundreds of times before Mario ever notices he's been hit. While one punch from an untrained fighter may not hurt, three hundred to four hundred definitely will.
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Lol at all the rage at Sonic. I see you still can't squirm out of Sonic surviving a black hole's gravitional pull and easily breaking free of it along with battling Perfect Chaos
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I'm buying the and playing games this weekend to figure out how and why it really happened, we'll finish this Monday morning!
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Nov 21 2014, 02:24 AM
Lol at all the rage at Sonic. I see you still can't squirm out of Sonic surviving a black hole's gravitional pull and easily breaking free of it along with battling Perfect Chaos
No one is saying Sonic cant do these feats, where clearley saying he isnt better at fighting than Mario or Physiclly Superior to DK. I Still have Falcons Galaxy Lighting Falcon Punch taking him out. Also Fighter Kirby has feats of cracking a small planet, Kirby stomach is litterally another dimension and he has a feat of him swalloing a blackhole. Sonic out ran one while kirby swalloed one.

SSB TIER
1.)Kirby
2.)Falcon
3.)Sonic and DK.
P.S Anybody got Smash 4, I need to see if its way better than Brawl, Cause if its not im staying in Melee and Project M
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Nov 22 2014, 04:42 PM
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Nov 21 2014, 02:24 AM
Lol at all the rage at Sonic. I see you still can't squirm out of Sonic surviving a black hole's gravitional pull and easily breaking free of it along with battling Perfect Chaos
No one is saying Sonic cant do these feats, where clearley saying he isnt better at fighting than Mario or Physiclly Superior to DK. I Still have Falcons Galaxy Lighting Falcon Punch taking him out. Also Fighter Kirby has feats of cracking a small planet, Kirby stomach is litterally another dimension and he has a feat of him swalloing a blackhole. Sonic out ran one while kirby swalloed one.

SSB TIER
1.)Kirby
2.)Falcon
3.)Sonic and DK.
P.S Anybody got Smash 4, I need to see if its way better than Brawl, Cause if its not im staying in Melee and Project M
Falcon isn't fast enough to do anything with the punch and even if he was, Sonic has survived far worse. Kirby swallowing a black hole is very helpful, but does nothing to keep him from being blitzed and turned into pink marshmallow paste

And DK has nothing to show him being that high. Even Mario has beaten him, several times
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Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
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Nov 22 2014, 06:36 PM
Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
Like I said, I am not the expert on Sonic. I probably forgot a ton of feats for him. Again, this video is the one with the most. Some are exagerrated, but it's still a good feat video
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Nov 22 2014, 06:36 PM
Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
Like I said, I am not the expert on Sonic. I probably forgot a ton of feats for him. Again, this video is the one with the most. Some are exagerrated, but it's still a good feat video
Kirby inhaled a black hole meaning his inhaling ability>>Black Hole. I dont see sonic out running that.Face it Kirby>Sonic. Also you keep misenterpeting what im saying Physiclly DK is Superior to Sonic just like how Knuckles is But compared to DK the margin is bigger. Also Mario who has no ability exept for jumping can beat guys Who can can cause earthquakes with there fist proving he is superior to Sonic in the department of Skill as Sonic soley relies on his Speed and Velocity to win a fight. Im not saying Sonic will lose to Mario (Cause He'll win) but in a equal Footing Mario will in fact tear Sonic up. Kind of like the Ryu vs Flash statement i stated, If speeds were equalized pure skill Ryu will take it no problem.
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Nov 22 2014, 06:36 PM
Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
Like I said, I am not the expert on Sonic. I probably forgot a ton of feats for him. Again, this video is the one with the most. Some are exagerrated, but it's still a good feat video
Kirby inhaled a black hole meaning his inhaling ability>>Black Hole. I dont see sonic out running that.Face it Kirby>Sonic. Also you keep misenterpeting what im saying Physiclly DK is Superior to Sonic just like how Knuckles is But compared to DK the margin is bigger. Also Mario who has no ability exept for jumping can beat guys Who can can cause earthquakes with there fist proving he is superior to Sonic in the department of Skill as Sonic soley relies on his Speed and Velocity to win a fight. Im not saying Sonic will lose to Mario (Cause He'll win) but in a equal Footing Mario will in fact tear Sonic up. Kind of like the Ryu vs Flash statement i stated, If speeds were equalized pure skill Ryu will take it no problem.
What has Mario done that's shown him to be a martial artist? Nothing.

As for Kirby, that may well be, but he's not fast enough to pull that before Sonic turns him into bloody paste
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Nov 22 2014, 06:36 PM
Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
Like I said, I am not the expert on Sonic. I probably forgot a ton of feats for him. Again, this video is the one with the most. Some are exagerrated, but it's still a good feat video
Kirby inhaled a black hole meaning his inhaling ability>>Black Hole. I dont see sonic out running that.Face it Kirby>Sonic. Also you keep misenterpeting what im saying Physiclly DK is Superior to Sonic just like how Knuckles is But compared to DK the margin is bigger. Also Mario who has no ability exept for jumping can beat guys Who can can cause earthquakes with there fist proving he is superior to Sonic in the department of Skill as Sonic soley relies on his Speed and Velocity to win a fight. Im not saying Sonic will lose to Mario (Cause He'll win) but in a equal Footing Mario will in fact tear Sonic up. Kind of like the Ryu vs Flash statement i stated, If speeds were equalized pure skill Ryu will take it no problem.
What has Mario done that's shown him to be a martial artist? Nothing.

As for Kirby, that may well be, but he's not fast enough to pull that before Sonic turns him into bloody paste
Kirby can make a warp star instantly and that thing travels at light speed so yeah still Kirby>>Sonic.

Mario has beat a man who has beating the God Jewel in there first encounter with no ability exept for jumping. Mario has no special abilities yet hes able to beat guys like Wario (1st encounter), Cranky Kong in his prime,Bowser (took over Galaxy twice). Mario beating some one like the likes of Wario with only skill, Wario should be able to oneshot Mario, (Also The Top Tier Kongs like DK III,Chunky Kong, The 4 Kong KINGS in DK Jungle beat, and the cactus king should one shot him aswell). But they arent winning because of pure Skill. Really the only one giving Mario a run for his money in the Skill Deparment is Latest version of Wario (Hes beat the God Jewel and his skilled minions in Wario World and in there own Dimension), Luigi (The Guy litterally used his negative emotions and exploited it creating the negative zone).

But Mario still trumphs his family members in that department since hes only using skill while Wario is way more powerful and Luigi is stated to have more atributes than Mario yet hes still in his shadow.

Mario>>>Sonic in skill department.
All other categories goes to Sonic, Strength is debatible tho but Sonic can just blitz Mario so it dosent matter anyway.
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Nov 22 2014, 11:55 PM
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Nov 22 2014, 06:43 PM
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Nov 22 2014, 06:36 PM
Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
Like I said, I am not the expert on Sonic. I probably forgot a ton of feats for him. Again, this video is the one with the most. Some are exagerrated, but it's still a good feat video
Kirby inhaled a black hole meaning his inhaling ability>>Black Hole. I dont see sonic out running that.Face it Kirby>Sonic. Also you keep misenterpeting what im saying Physiclly DK is Superior to Sonic just like how Knuckles is But compared to DK the margin is bigger. Also Mario who has no ability exept for jumping can beat guys Who can can cause earthquakes with there fist proving he is superior to Sonic in the department of Skill as Sonic soley relies on his Speed and Velocity to win a fight. Im not saying Sonic will lose to Mario (Cause He'll win) but in a equal Footing Mario will in fact tear Sonic up. Kind of like the Ryu vs Flash statement i stated, If speeds were equalized pure skill Ryu will take it no problem.
What has Mario done that's shown him to be a martial artist? Nothing.

As for Kirby, that may well be, but he's not fast enough to pull that before Sonic turns him into bloody paste
Kirby can make a warp star instantly and that thing travels at light speed so yeah still Kirby>>Sonic.

Mario has beat a man who has beating the God Jewel in there first encounter with no ability exept for jumping. Mario has no special abilities yet hes able to beat guys like Wario (1st encounter), Cranky Kong in his prime,Bowser (took over Galaxy twice). Mario beating some one like the likes of Wario with only skill, Wario should be able to oneshot Mario, (Also The Top Tier Kongs like DK III,Chunky Kong, The 4 Kong KINGS in DK Jungle beat, and the cactus king should one shot him aswell). But they arent winning because of pure Skill. Really the only one giving Mario a run for his money in the Skill Deparment is Latest version of Wario (Hes beat the God Jewel and his skilled minions in Wario World and in there own Dimension), Luigi (The Guy litterally used his negative emotions and exploited it creating the negative zone).

But Mario still trumphs his family members in that department since hes only using skill while Wario is way more powerful and Luigi is stated to have more atributes than Mario yet hes still in his shadow.

Mario>>>Sonic in skill department.
All other categories goes to Sonic, Strength is debatible tho but Sonic can just blitz Mario so it dosent matter anyway.
Sonic craps on light speed, even light can't escape a black hole, Sonic laughs off its pull

And as for Mario doing all that, that's very good for him, except that most of his wins aren't due to skill, they're due to using environmental factors. It doesn't take a genius to come up with Mario's ideas(the people playing him have no trouble with it), calling it skill is laughable

Also, his strength vs Sonic's isn't debatable, when he punches the ground at full force in the Subspace Emissary, the ground doesn't even crack. When Sonic hits Tabuu's wings, they shatter like glass
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im curious where you guys think Ike would rank
he doesnt have any crazy speed or strengh or anything but he has slightly super human abilities
but he gets temporary god powers at one point and is immune to anything that is not blessed by ashera
and his sword can cut through ANYTHING
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Nov 22 2014, 11:55 PM
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Nov 22 2014, 06:36 PM
Mario's a badass. It's more a feat that anyone survives an encounter with Mario.

Side Note: ok, bought generations and colors, what game do I start with?
Like I said, I am not the expert on Sonic. I probably forgot a ton of feats for him. Again, this video is the one with the most. Some are exagerrated, but it's still a good feat video
Kirby inhaled a black hole meaning his inhaling ability>>Black Hole. I dont see sonic out running that.Face it Kirby>Sonic. Also you keep misenterpeting what im saying Physiclly DK is Superior to Sonic just like how Knuckles is But compared to DK the margin is bigger. Also Mario who has no ability exept for jumping can beat guys Who can can cause earthquakes with there fist proving he is superior to Sonic in the department of Skill as Sonic soley relies on his Speed and Velocity to win a fight. Im not saying Sonic will lose to Mario (Cause He'll win) but in a equal Footing Mario will in fact tear Sonic up. Kind of like the Ryu vs Flash statement i stated, If speeds were equalized pure skill Ryu will take it no problem.
What has Mario done that's shown him to be a martial artist? Nothing.

As for Kirby, that may well be, but he's not fast enough to pull that before Sonic turns him into bloody paste
Kirby can make a warp star instantly and that thing travels at light speed so yeah still Kirby>>Sonic.

Mario has beat a man who has beating the God Jewel in there first encounter with no ability exept for jumping. Mario has no special abilities yet hes able to beat guys like Wario (1st encounter), Cranky Kong in his prime,Bowser (took over Galaxy twice). Mario beating some one like the likes of Wario with only skill, Wario should be able to oneshot Mario, (Also The Top Tier Kongs like DK III,Chunky Kong, The 4 Kong KINGS in DK Jungle beat, and the cactus king should one shot him aswell). But they arent winning because of pure Skill. Really the only one giving Mario a run for his money in the Skill Deparment is Latest version of Wario (Hes beat the God Jewel and his skilled minions in Wario World and in there own Dimension), Luigi (The Guy litterally used his negative emotions and exploited it creating the negative zone).

But Mario still trumphs his family members in that department since hes only using skill while Wario is way more powerful and Luigi is stated to have more atributes than Mario yet hes still in his shadow.

Mario>>>Sonic in skill department.
All other categories goes to Sonic, Strength is debatible tho but Sonic can just blitz Mario so it dosent matter anyway.
Sonic craps on light speed, even light can't escape a black hole, Sonic laughs off its pull

And as for Mario doing all that, that's very good for him, except that most of his wins aren't due to skill, they're due to using environmental factors. It doesn't take a genius to come up with Mario's ideas(the people playing him have no trouble with it), calling it skill is laughable

Also, his strength vs Sonic's isn't debatable, when he punches the ground at full force in the Subspace Emissary, the ground doesn't even crack. When Sonic hits Tabuu's wings, they shatter like glass
Mario still beat Wario with out the enviornment and beating guys with the enviornment just show how much of a strategic thinker he is. He still has Luigi in his shadow despite the fact that its been stated that Luigi should be superior due to all the attributes (Luigi litterally molded Negativity and used it and Mario is still his superior).

Wins without enviormental assistance

Wario (1st encounter)
Cranky Kong Prime
Shadow Mario (Bowser Jr)
Bowser (In nearly every 2D Mario Game Where Mario dosent use the enviornment for assistance and he was once Superior to DKIII, But is still top 3 Mario )
All The Koopalings
Boom-Boom and Female counterpart
CountBleck(This guy instantly makes Dimensions)
Dimentio (Makes CountBleck look like Poopy and corrupted Luigi)
Army of Ghost
King Bobomb
The two ancient dragons
The list keeps going.

Also Sonic shattering Tabbus wings was because of his Sonic hoaming attack (Which utilizes what ive been saying about Sonic,using his speed and velocity) the hoaming attack is like a meteor the longer the distance the more damage it makes. Also even u stated Tabuu was caugth off guard as he was soley paying attention to the cast so dont even use that.

Still with skill Mario>Sonic.Strength still debatable but Mario did break meteors still debatable tho.

Kirby can still swallow sonic and believe it or not Kirby has higher durability as he is (not nearly at the level of buu tho) intangable and sqishy itll take more that physical attacks to faze him.

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Luigi is second bannana because of an inferiority complex and cowardice, that's it.

And in which of those fights did Mario pull out a super special awesome punch of skill that put them to shame?

As for Kirby, he can still feel physical attacks(Gordos hurt him)
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Luigi is second bannana because of an inferiority complex and cowardice, that's it.

And in which of those fights did Mario pull out a super special awesome punch of skill that put them to shame?

As for Kirby, he can still feel physical attacks(Gordos hurt him)
1.)your really underating Luigi when no one can fight the good fight it is always Luigi who saves the day. Yet even him at his best,Mario is still stated as his superior.
2.)Super Awesome Punch... Lol Not all fights have to end with a bang, Mario still beat all these guys with pure Skill and i fotgot to mention in PMTYD He beat Rawk Hawk, The Glitz Pitz Champion (This is a wresteling leauge in the mario verse).

Your acting like im saying Mario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sonic which im not, Sonic beats Mario but in skill category any one in the Mario Family is superior to Sonic.

Still Kirby>Sonic he isnt outrunning the inhalation that makes black holes look like poopy.
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