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Devastator(Movie) vs Master Chief
Topic Started: Nov 16 2014, 08:17 PM (295 Views)
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Master Chief is his usual self and has an hour to study Devastator before beginning the fight. He can pack any weapon he could concievably carry from Halo. Devastator is unaware that Chief is about to ambush him and so is lumbering along in Detroit, sucking up gangsters. Chief is pissed because he gets drug money
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Lol, badass fight, but nothing short of a high heat sabot round is going to put a dent in the Combiner. And one clean missile barrage or hand cannon blast, and Chief is dust. That Railguj was super high heat and high velocity and honestly the only thing that was going to stop Devestator.
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I suppose if Chief had a pile of Spartan Lasers ten feet high to grab he might win. Possibly. But due to the restrictions of "can conceivably carry", that ain't happening. He could injure Devastator, of that there is no doubt. It certainly wouldn't be a crippling blow. But I don't see how he can kill the beast. Then again......

Does this Chief have access to Cortana? She is normally considered part of his standard loadout. If so, her cyberwarfare suite might be enough to screw with Devastator.
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Nov 16 2014, 09:18 PM
I suppose if Chief had a pile of Spartan Lasers ten feet high to grab he might win. Possibly. But due to the restrictions of "can conceivably carry", that ain't happening. He could injure Devastator, of that there is no doubt. It certainly wouldn't be a crippling blow. But I don't see how he can kill the beast. Then again......

Does this Chief have access to Cortana? She is normally considered part of his standard loadout. If so, her cyberwarfare suite might be enough to screw with Devastator.
Sure, let's give him Cortana. I don't think that would work on Devastator, EMPs were flying all over the place but the Transformers weren't affected. I don't think they even have computers in them
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They are sentient computers and Cortana is the AI equivalent of a superhacker.
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They are sentient computers and Cortana is the AI equivalent of a superhacker.
That's kind of stretching it. Lots of living things are sentient computers, can Cortana hack them?
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If they have nonorganic parts, she can hack the parts. She is able to hack into Forerunner Tech. Transformers shouldn't be much harder. At the very least, she should be able to foul the signals that cause the T-Cog to function.
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But the T-Cog isn't a component, it's more of an Organ really. I guess it'd be like making our livers stop working by... how would one hack a human. Brainwashing? Then again I suppose it would be possible. Could Cortana brainwash Devestator is the real question.
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We have to come to an understanding here, it seems. Transformers are cyber-organisms, sentient automatons whose entire makeup from a human point of view are robotic parts. Cortana is an AI based around the mind of the smartest human in the Halo universe, barring humans from during the Forerunner Wars. She could look at these Transformers and see what they are, and what she is. She is for all intents and purposes a surgeon for cyber-organisms. she could reroute power distributions to do any number of things to a Transformer, including setting every weapon into a critical overload.

Yes, the T-Cog is technically an organ for a transformer, but it is made of metal, silicon, chrome and controlled by electrical impulses. About the only thing I think would be considered off-limits to Cortana is the Spark Chamber.
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We have to come to an understanding here, it seems. Transformers are cyber-organisms, sentient automatons whose entire makeup from a human point of view are robotic parts. Cortana is an AI based around the mind of the smartest human in the Halo universe, barring humans from during the Forerunner Wars. She could look at these Transformers and see what they are, and what she is. She is for all intents and purposes a surgeon for cyber-organisms. she could reroute power distributions to do any number of things to a Transformer, including setting every weapon into a critical overload.

Yes, the T-Cog is technically an organ for a transformer, but it is made of metal, silicon, chrome and controlled by electrical impulses. About the only thing I think would be considered off-limits to Cortana is the Spark Chamber.
Devastator has multiple minds though, being a combiner. Can she hack all 5 at the same time?
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I am pretty sure she can. She once hacked an entire Covenant capital ship in under a second. Obviously not as difficult as five distinct minds, but once they combine they more or less lose their individual personalities to embody a gestalt entity, do they not? So it'd really just be one mind with the strength of five individuals. Difficult, but not impossible, I'd imagine.
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I am pretty sure she can. She once hacked an entire Covenant capital ship in under a second. Obviously not as difficult as five distinct minds, but once they combine they more or less lose their individual personalities to embody a gestalt entity, do they not? So it'd really just be one mind with the strength of five individuals. Difficult, but not impossible, I'd imagine.
I question why Cortana doesn't just get rid of Banshees and Phantoms then. As for Devastator, he wasn't in the movie for long enough to tell
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She needs a hard-connected system to tap into, and vehicles as small as Banshees and Phantoms:

1) Have no direct AI access ports

2) Have never been required for her to hack. She can hack a Ghost to trade a MJOLNIR suit's shields for infinite boost to bypass the Plasma reactor that powers it, and there is no reason the same could not be done on a Banshee or a Phantom, if enough MJLONIR suits were on the Phantom.

Cortana is an AI suite based around aggressive cyberwarfare (Cracker style hacking), and there is simply not enough cyber in small vehicles to warrant her attention. Why bother hacking a single plane or dropship at a time when you can hack the ship they came from and use those big capital ship weapons on those fragile little targets?

As for Devastator, every Canon combiner in every other version of Transformers takes unto themselves a gestalt personality upon combination. It is fair to assume the same is true of the Bay-formers Devastator in the absence of evidence to the contrary.
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