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| Egyptian God's (Yugioh) vs Naruto Universe | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 16 2014, 03:30 PM (1,882 Views) | |
| + Majin Vegeta | Nov 16 2014, 03:30 PM Post #1 |
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Inspired by Laser's topic, i would like to ask how far can the egyptian god monsters from Yugioh get in the Naruto verse? I think they could get far enough cause they possess both speed and power to do so. |
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| + supersaqer | Nov 16 2014, 03:57 PM Post #2 |
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They actually destroy everyone IIRC. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2014, 04:08 PM Post #3 |
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I don't remember them doing anything particularily impressive. Sure, they were building busting, but not much else. If anything, they were constantly one upped by everyone and their mother. The really impressive Yugioh feat belongs to Yubel, fusing 12 universes together |
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| + supersaqer | Nov 16 2014, 05:07 PM Post #4 |
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There aren't many destructive feats at all in the series, but the power goes on around the hype they get, and from scaling. They're basically monsters who'd wipe the floor with anyone in Naruto. Seems that Kaguya will know who's a god this time
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2014, 05:18 PM Post #5 |
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Hype means nothing. The Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon is stronger than Ra. I don't see where you're getting all this scaling from |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 16 2014, 05:36 PM Post #6 |
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BEWD is s*** to Ra. Explain why not. Ra would solo everyone, at least in its Phoenix Mode. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2014, 05:38 PM Post #7 |
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When Ra fought Zorc under the eclipse, Zorc crushed it with no effort When Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon tried that stunt, he knocked Zorc on his a***. I still don't see what's so powerful about the gods. They didn't do anything too impressive |
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| TheACE | Nov 16 2014, 05:39 PM Post #8 |
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Well they did reset the fabric of time/space in the Memory World by fusing into The Creator. Obelisk has atomized Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon on several occassions. Slifer warps the skies and generates a storm in an instant by being Summoned. Ra pulls the power of the Sun and does the same. Ra has and unstoppable immortal Phoenix Mode. And the lot of them can strike people with lightning and smite the unworthy ones/those who use counterfits (Because that's a big deal in Yugioh) I'd say they're some of the strongest monsters. Blue Eyes Shining Dragon in the Movie proved to be pretty spectacular with that Shining Nova, and it's been stated by Pegasus and Kaiba to be the one card that might be able to defeat the gods. But that's getting off topic. Aside from the Pyramid of Light, the only viable weakness the Gods have would be the Stamina of the Pharaoh, but if they aren't directly linked to anyone and are just drawing strength from the cosmos, well there you have it. |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 16 2014, 06:30 PM Post #9 |
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When Atem summoned all three Gods against Zorc, Obelisk and Slifer were able to knock him on his a*** with their special attacks, and it's debatable whether Slifer could've done it on his own at the angle he fired his beam (considering he already performed such a feat upon being summoned). Ra was clearly above both, and by a good amount too, but it never did anything to Zorc except when Zorc was already being attacked, so it's not exactly easy to gauge the thing's strength in comparison other than it couldn't survive Zorc pulling a Dabura out his rectum. BEWD wasn't all that impressive either. It knocked Zorc down, sure, but Obelisk & Slifer also did that. It was able to begin reversing Zorc's eclipse after it shot a blast at Zorc (who blocked it with one arm), but then it got beat easily. Zorc's d*** grabbed it by the neck and tossed it around until Zorc turned it into stone like the Egyptian Gods, so I don't really see how it outperformed them by any measure. You could perhaps make an argument for BEUD, who was able to knock Zorc back several hundred feet through a wall and stalemate his blast, but it wasn't able to win. Even Dragon Master Knight couldn't win, despite obviously being stronger than BEUD and performing a better feat. It's a small bit that may mean nothing, really, but Grandpa Moto (forgot his Egyptian name) said only the gods had the power to illuminate the sky in the middle of the night. BEWD was able to reverse the eclipse, but they may not be the same thing. edit: Just reread your posts and realized you were talking about BEUD, not BEWD. Still, though, it isn't easy to compare the two fights. Zorc turned the Gods into stone and BEWD, but never tried that on BEUD, similar to how he never tried blasting the Gods. Edited by Pyrus, Nov 16 2014, 06:34 PM.
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2014, 07:13 PM Post #10 |
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1. That's their fusion, not them 2. In the actual duels, yes. But the duels aren't their actual power, see Rainbow Dragon's blast being blocked by Neos but Stardust Dragon's blast nearly killing him 3. He's called the Sky Dragon, he's got jurisdiction over it 4. Did he do that? Don't remember 5. Unstoppable? So even Horahkty, Zorc, or the Great Leviathan can't stop it? 6. Yami Bakura survived Slifer's lightning just fine and at that time, he wasn't particularily powerful 7. The one card to their knowledge. Honestly, that line made no sense. Kaiba doesn't believe in magic at that point, so if anything, he should be trying out stuff like an Exodia deck in order to win, we know there's more than one copy(GX) 8. They don't need weaknesses when brute strength can do the trick I don't see any speed feats for them either. I don't know Naruto very well, but I know they aren't clearing |
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| TheACE | Nov 16 2014, 07:31 PM Post #11 |
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Rebuttal: 1. That's their fusion, not them - Fuse 'em together and whaddya got? Horahkty the Creator. So yeah, that's kinda them. Besides, you didn't limit fusion, so I'm taking advantage of the loophole (C'mon Lazer, you know me an loopholes lol) 2. In the actual duels, yes. But the duels aren't their actual power, see Rainbow Dragon's blast being blocked by Neos but Stardust Dragon's blast nearly killing him Same deal with Diabound and Dark Magician and such, but when Obelisk drops the bomb, he drops the bomb. Save for Zorc, there's yet to be a non-god monster to stop him. 3. He's called the Sky Dragon, he's got jurisdiction over it This is a fact. However you still can't make this not badass, and having full power over the sky is a feat within of itself. Takes a lot of energy to whip up a storm, and sure puts Sasu's kirin to shame now doesn't it? 4. Did he do that? Don't remember Yup. Ripped the clouds to bits when he was summoned by Yami. Ra is one Mega Ultra Chicken! 5. Unstoppable? So even Horahkty, Zorc, or the Great Leviathan can't stop it? Well, technically Horahkty can't since he's made of Ra. Zorc matched Ra in Phoenix mode until Ra lost his energy, much like Exodia and Blue Eyes. And didn't Slifer, Obelisk and Ra kick the Leviathan's arse in Season 4? 6. Yami Bakura survived Slifer's lightning just fine and at that time, he wasn't particularily powerful Yami Bakura is the be all end all villian at the end of the series, he's a very powerful Shadow Magic user. And sure he survived, but he still got knocked the f*** out. I can survive a city bus hitting me just fine, but I'm sure not gonna go back up to the city bus and say "Hey city bus, ready for round two? You hit like a mini-van!" 7. The one card to their knowledge. Honestly, that line made no sense. Kaiba doesn't believe in magic at that point, so if anything, he should be trying out stuff like an Exodia deck in order to win, we know there's more than one copy(GX) Pegasus made all of the cards, so if anyone knows it's that androgynous arsehole. And besides, we've established that Yami can kick the crap out of Exodia, like he did to the rare hunter. Kaiba's merk'd Exodia in his corrupted form too in season 3, so he likely didn't think much of it. That and you tell me that the Blue Eyes Shining Dragon wasn't the most effective card in that whole damn movie. Makes me wonder why Kaiba retired it. Aside from the fact that the movie is ambiguously non-canon there was no reason to abandon it. But now I've delved very far off topic and for that I appolgize. 8. They don't need weaknesses when brute strength can do the trick Again, these are facts. But nothing non-magic and godlike in it's own right has ever over powered them. If they can take the top tiers (Biju Sage Naruto, Rinnegan Sasuke, Kaguya, Mitotic Sakura, Mangekyo Kakashi, Mangekyo Itachi, Biju Sage Minato and the like) then I think they got it. As far as speed goes, I feel like they did something like traversing a couple cities and a desert in a few minutes while fighting Diabound, but then again Yami was riding his horse and keeping pace. So unless that horse was Shadowfax, I guess they fly around 30mph? Only trouble with Millenium world is the following: 1. It was a game, set up by Yami Bakura to duel The Pharoah, and stuff kept getting moved around. So it was rife with Bakura's influence. 2. It was based on the Pharoah's memory. Which is great, but he didn't get his memories back until AFTER the game was over. So it was based on the memories that he had before he got his memories (If that makes any sense, I swear the Japanese explained it much better than I did) 3. Speed feats are tough in a show where they stand around and play cardgames with one another, that really was high speed action in comparison. I assume they were moving like they did in Capsule Monsters, which was pretty fast. I think I remember Red-Eyes Joey and Dark Mage Yami doing some after images and such, so they probably can shatter the sound barrier if they feel like it. 4. Trouble with Shadow Magic, it doesn't seem to have a defined limit aside from stamina and imagination. Since we don't have a duelist attached to them (Not that Atem's stamina or mental stability has ever been low) it's pretty much whatever the Gods themselves do. |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 16 2014, 07:36 PM Post #12 |
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When Atem summoned Slifer during the final engagement, Slifer traversed "what looked to be" several thousand feet in seconds...and then knocked Zorc on his grumpy a***. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 16 2014, 08:10 PM Post #13 |
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1. That's not the same thing 2. That doesn't mean much, really. Exodia hasn't been stopped except by stamina either, he should be stronger than Zorc if that's the case 3. I have no clue who this Sasu is, but I am going to assume that he sucks by comparison 4. Okay 5. They only took down the Leviathan because of the evil energy inside of it being destabilized, otherwise, it was tanking their hits 6. Keyword, at the end. At that time, Yami Bakura was Marik's b***, he got stronger by the Millenium World Arc. And while he was knocked out, he still lived through it just fine 7. Fair enough. That movie was just all over the place 8. They've done nothing to show they can survive a punch from Naruto and his rhino tossing. I don't follow Naruto, so maybe they're weaker than I thought 1. If so, I wonder why the Blue-Eyes, both regular and ultimate, were able to fend off Zorc and do a better job than the gods in general 2. Okay 3. Were they actually using speed or was it just magical after images? 4. There are defined limits, see Marik threatening to brainwash Yami Bakura and such. @Pyrus That's easy to to do when you're several hundred feet yourself. Also, Atem keeping pace on a horse |
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| + Pyrus | Nov 16 2014, 08:43 PM Post #14 |
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Slifer's whole body was moving those hundreds of feet, though, not just him slinking across the desert...if that makes sense. It probably doesn't. Anyway, I'll go rewatch the scene with the horse because that just sounds silly. I don't remember it being that cut and dry. As for your comment on Blue-Eyes (regular), I already dismissed that.
Normal Blue-Eyes did the same thing as Slifer and Obelisk were able to do (well, Obelisk did it with his Fist of Fate, but Slifer did it by slamming into Zorc on his own), so how did it fare any better than them? Blue-Eyes Ultimate you could make an argument for, but that'd also rely on some conjecture since as I mentioned above, the Gods and Ultimate were assaulted by two different techniques which we know nothing about. I'm still unconvinced Ra is somehow below Ultimate, much less normal BEWD. The evidence just isn't stacking up for me. BEWD has the same feats as Slifer and Obelisk (and we've seen from previous events that Obelisk is lolderpweak compared to Slifer, who was looked at as mere child's play compared to when Ra was first summoned), but that doesn't necessarily make them equals, and was rag-dolled with ease when it came down to it. Ra is automatically above Slifer and Obelisk. BEUD performed impressively by stalemating Zorc's sustained blast with its own, but again, what is that blast compared to his dark waves from before that turned beings into stone? It's never really elaborated on or even implied, "Hey, he's using THAT attack over the dark waves? Damn, he must be getting serious!" Ra was called upon when there was absolutely no other option; he was the end game. If he got called out, you knew s*** was not being taken lightly, even moreso than Obelisk and Slifer. I'm not saying BEUD couldn't be above the Gods (Phoenix Mode Ra is still unlikely), but I'm still trying to figure out how exactly this is coming into fruition. Edited by Pyrus, Nov 16 2014, 08:45 PM.
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| + Majin Vegeta | Nov 16 2014, 10:35 PM Post #15 |
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The best destructive feats and statements i can remember from yugioh: - BEUD is capable of ripping holes through dimensions when he had a beam struggle with Zorc, already high tier Naruto there. - Zorc has the power to cause a solar eclipse just by lifting his hand. - It was said all the armies in the world can't beat Zorc. - Each God seperatly can defeat an army of millions with ease. - Leviathan was able to lift the entire City of Atlantis, holy cow! - They have the power to bring the sun just with there power as soon as they are summoned. And they are pretty fast, Slifer was able to instantly repel one of Diabound's attack and even Yami Bakura commented in this about how fast Slifer was. |
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