Hashirama Senju vs Minato Namikaze

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Hashirama Senju vs Minato Namikaze
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 14 2014, 11:41 AM (2,573 Views)
+ Havoc_Wreaker	Nov 14 2014, 11:41 AM Post #1
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	might be a stomp BUT who would win, via sealing or death and where would each other counterparts match up to they have access to all of there jutus theres normal hashirama sage mode hasirama edo hasirama and edo sage hasirama normal minato sage mode minato ninetails minato edo minato sage edo minato ninetails edo minato and hypothetical edo sage ninetails minato edit just some extra information summons: hasirama has impressive summons much more so then minato Senpō: Mokuton: Shin Sūsenju compared to like gamabunta and kurama lol chakra reserves: goes to hasirama unless minato goes ninetails mode in which they are comparable but would still give the edge to minato here taijutsu/strengh: simple enough it would be hashi although in sage mode minato would not be too far behind ninjutsu: would give to hashi in the sense he has more techniques but proficiency wise probably a tie speed: ......... minato seals: fairly similar maybe hashi not sure? intelligence: would give to minato actually he had great teachers and instincts and is a sensory type ninja to boot Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Nov 14 2014, 12:16 PM.

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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Nov 16 2014, 12:29 PM Post #16
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	lol i will where was it stated that only he can beat madara? madara is the one that wanted to fight hashi and went after him and hashi knew madara would want to fight him and said he would go after him while the others take on obito, cant find the scan but he said that i dont remember him saying only he can fight madara also even if he did which i doubt, he doesnt know anything about minato he doesnt know how strong he is, if he has NTCM mode or sage mode, cause he used them later on also minato is a sensory type ninja and smarter then hashi just saying



* Stark	Nov 16 2014, 12:31 PM Post #17
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	Oh I was referring to a point that was being debated earlier ahah, I just forgot to quote it. I think Hashirama wins all but he needs Sage Mode to keep up with Edo Minato because he's a beast.



* Yu Narukami	Nov 16 2014, 12:42 PM Post #18
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Hashirama's Wood Style essentially negates the advantage that NTCM gives Minato. Minato is faster, yeah, but one mistake and he's the victim of Hashi's attack and can't use any Bijuu chakra. I think Hashi has this. Minato is very skilled and fast, but Hashi seems experienced enough to force him into a situation where he'd make a mistake.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 16 2014, 01:05 PM Post #19
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Yondaime Nov 16 2014, 12:29 PM lol i will where was it stated that only he can beat madara? madara is the one that wanted to fight hashi and went after him and hashi knew madara would want to fight him and said he would go after him while the others take on obito, cant find the scan but he said that i dont remember him saying only he can fight madara also even if he did which i doubt, he doesnt know anything about minato he doesnt know how strong he is, if he has NTCM mode or sage mode, cause he used them later on also minato is a sensory type ninja and smarter then hashi just saying When Madara was fighting the five kage he stated Hashirama is the only one who can beat him in combat, and since no one does beat him except Gai and the others im inclined to agree with this.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Havoc_Wreaker	Nov 16 2014, 01:52 PM Post #20
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	so madara said it? cause madara knows everything that minato can do? maybe at the time only hashi could but clearly minato gets some plot boosts hashi also has small regenerative abilities thought i would add that as well also we talking about how minato would beat hashi, how would hashi beat minato? minato is no slouch, while hashi is psychically stronger, has better summons, and more techniques minato, is smarter/better tactician, faster, chakra arms, more skilled i think hashi would win but i wouldnt count out minato i think he could possibly win too, like i said it wouldnt be pretty and minato would be on the defensive but he could manage also dont forget, minato has limited sage mode as well guys



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 16 2014, 02:21 PM Post #21
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Yondaime Nov 16 2014, 01:52 PM so madara said it? cause madara knows everything that minato can do? maybe at the time only hashi could but clearly minato gets some plot boosts hashi also has small regenerative abilities thought i would add that as well also we talking about how minato would beat hashi, how would hashi beat minato? minato is no slouch, while hashi is psychically stronger, has better summons, and more techniques minato, is smarter/better tactician, faster, chakra arms, more skilled i think hashi would win but i wouldnt count out minato i think he could possibly win too, like i said it wouldnt be pretty and minato would be on the defensive but he could manage also dont forget, minato has limited sage mode as well guys Not Madar himself, but Tsunade does, and she doesn't seem to go against Madara's statement and quite frankly admits that even though she is not as powerful as her grandfather she would still try her best to take him down. Hashirama's summon is eough to take down Minato, teleportation is good but Sage Hashi can counter it. And like i said even though Hashirama would win, it would be a great fight and Minato still does have a change to win as well. Also hypotheical Sage Mode NTCM Minato IMO is stronger than any version of hashirama.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Havoc_Wreaker	Nov 16 2014, 02:53 PM Post #22
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	hmmm, so tsunade says it thats the least reliable source lol, fact of the matter is minato shows up later and gets some great plot boosts, i seriously doubt only hashi was capable, anyhow ill post some feats from minato, -minato was able teleport via his space time jutsu, away the juubis blasts which is >>> hashis god statue, so minato can take on any amount of destructive attack hashi has -was faster then 8 gates guy who speed blitz the s* out of juubi madara soo hard -smart enough to figure out tobis intangibility technique just from like 1 encounter i believe it was -was able to very very quickly understand the truth seeking balls, all its details about it and a counter measure while kakshi was on the field and he who is smart in his own regard didnt now jack s* but leaned on minato and he showed his battle smarts i know im being biased here but man minato is a genius compared to hashi, and is so fast that hashi would s* a brick is wayyy more skilled, hashi and his defensive measures and chakra reserve will allow this to be a long a* match



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 16 2014, 03:22 PM Post #23
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Fact is you still have an implication by Tsunade that Hashirama > Minato(no NTCM). Hashirama can still keep up with the teleportation speed of Minato and Hashirama could attack with the wood style dragon anyway. Minato has some damn crazy feats on his side, and seeing what you posted im inclined to agree that it really is a 50-50 matchup or so. Edit: Lol you're not biased, those feats are true from Minato's side, biased would be when you know you are wrong and yet keep on going Edited by Majin Vegeta, Nov 16 2014, 03:24 PM.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Havoc_Wreaker	Nov 16 2014, 03:36 PM Post #24
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	maybe ur right about the quote not that i really doubt you but it would be great if you could post it lol maybe im not biased but i just loveeee minato question: how would hashi keep up with minato? i mean he has great defensive measures but landing hits on minato isnt exactly easy and seeing as how minato can figure the ins and outs of of complex jutsus really quickly and is a sensory type ninja he would know all about hashi soon enough as well i agree the fight would be close though, both have hugeeee chakra levels



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 16 2014, 03:46 PM Post #25
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Lol, it's not a set quote, the fact Tsunade does not disregard Madara's statement about Hashirama been the only one who cant beat him even though she knows Base Minato's abilities, and she says she will try to become the strongest like her grandfather.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


Mihawk	Nov 16 2014, 04:50 PM Post #26
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Yeah just as Puccio said, Madara absorbed Hashi's sage mode and was then able to dodge Tobirama's teleportation.



+ Havoc_Wreaker	Nov 16 2014, 08:46 PM Post #27
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	tobi's teleportation was a b ranked jutsu minato's was a S ranked......two whole levels higher......tobirama said minatos technique s was better too as well as the raw speed of NTCM, hashi would get blitzed



Mihawk	Nov 16 2014, 08:49 PM Post #28
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Source for both?



+ Steve	Nov 16 2014, 10:01 PM Post #29
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Tobirama's doesnmt work the same way just because Madara can beat him doesn't mean Hashi could Madara has a different skill set. This is just another example of how in Naruto it doesn't work like A > B > C Minato can't beat Madara because Madara has a near constant defence, Dojutsu, plot hax and a power for every situation. The 1000 handed Goddess wouldn't be that great really how is it meant to hit Minato? It's only good against slow characters or to fight against summons/Susano'o someone who can teleport way far and away outside of it's range isn't something it could handle. Then if Minato has a seal anywhere near Hashi he, if he can, could make a massive Rasengan and warp back to attack. Wood Dragon etc wouldn't be that helpful at short range.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 16 2014, 10:19 PM Post #30
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	I think this is gonna be a dragged out fight honestly, Hashirama has enough fire power to take down Minato, but he is just to fast, and Minato doesn't really have an attack string enough to take down both 1.000 goddess , wood dragon and Sage Hashirama as well.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


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