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Why do people keep on labeling gropers as rapists?
Topic Started: Nov 13 2014, 02:48 AM (2,184 Views)
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Why do people keep on labeling people who inappropriately touched other people as "rapists" all the time? There's a big difference between the mentality of people who touch other people inappropriately and people who r*** other people. R*** is a big crime. You have to be the dumbest person out there to even think about doing it.

Gropers are people who just touch other people without permission or grab other people on the butts.

Rapists are people who FORCE other people into sex.

The first group gets a jail time of no more than 2-4 months.

As for the second group, you can be put in jail for YEARS.

Should society stop calling people who inappropriately touched other people as molesters and rapists?
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Nov 13 2014, 02:48 AM
Why do people keep on labeling people who inappropriately touched other people as "rapists" all the time? There's a big difference between the mentality of people who touch other people inappropriately and people who r*** other people. R*** is a big crime. You have to be the dumbest person out there to even think about doing it.

Gropers are people who just touch other people without permission or grab other people on the butts.

Rapists are people who FORCE other people into sex.

The first group gets a jail time of no more than 2-4 months.

As for the second group, you can be put in jail for YEARS.

Should society stop calling people who inappropriately touched other people as molesters and rapists?
Touching somebody inappropriately falls under molestation.

If a man touches up a little kid, then that man molested the child. Pretty sure groping without somebodies permission is molestation. Does this clear things up for you?
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Nov 13 2014, 02:54 AM
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Nov 13 2014, 02:48 AM
Why do people keep on labeling people who inappropriately touched other people as "rapists" all the time? There's a big difference between the mentality of people who touch other people inappropriately and people who r*** other people. R*** is a big crime. You have to be the dumbest person out there to even think about doing it.

Gropers are people who just touch other people without permission or grab other people on the butts.

Rapists are people who FORCE other people into sex.

The first group gets a jail time of no more than 2-4 months.

As for the second group, you can be put in jail for YEARS.

Should society stop calling people who inappropriately touched other people as molesters and rapists?
Touching somebody inappropriately falls under molestation.

If a man touches up a little kid, then that man molested the child. Pretty sure groping without somebodies permission is molestation. Does this clear things up for you?
Ok, but they're not rapists. People always seem to confuse molestation with r*** all the time every time suspects are accused of it on the news.
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All quotes from wikipedia.

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Sexual abuse, also referred to as molestation, is forcing undesired sexual behavior by one person upon another. When that force is immediate, of short duration, or infrequent, it is called sexual assault. The offender is referred to as a sexual abuser or (often pejoratively) molester.


If you grope someone without their permission this is sexual abuse. You are by definition molesting them. You are handling them in a sexual manner without their consent. This is sexual abuse.

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Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration initiated against one or more individuals without the consent of those individuals. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority or against a person who is incapable of valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, or below the legal age of consent. The term rape is sometimes used interchangeably with the term sexual assault.


Rape is a subcategory of sexual assault and in many cases groping can lead to such behaviour. Yes, not everyone who gropes is going to be a rapist, but that doesn't mean it is in anyway acceptable.

Additionally as stated in the quote above it is sometimes used interchangeably with the term sexual assault which can explain what you have seen.

Edit: To clarify with the above post, molestation is any behaviour by any adult towards a child to stimulate either the adult or child sexually. All rape is molestation, and many cases of molestation may also be rape, depending on the definition of it by law in certain areas.
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Does giving someone a wedgie count as sexual assault?


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Nov 13 2014, 03:04 AM
Does giving someone a wedgie count as sexual assault?
Yes, it's illegal to put your hands on anybody you're not acquainted or friends with.
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Well it might just count as regular assault. It's only sexual if it can be proven there was an intention for the perpetrator to become aroused.


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Rape is sexual penetration without permission. You can rape somebody with your finger (which would also be classed as molestation in this particular case) but that doesn't change the fact that person was still raped. It's more about the details, man! One can still be the other as well in this case.
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SSJSC
Nov 13 2014, 02:48 AM
The first group gets a jail time of no more than 2-4 months.

As for the second group, you can be put in jail for YEARS.

Just wanted to point out that this is not true. You don't get higher sentences for groping than you do rape....

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Nov 13 2014, 03:16 AM
Rape is sexual penetration without permission. You can rape somebody with your finger (which would also be classed as molestation in this particular case) but that doesn't change the fact that person was still raped. It's more about the details, man! One can still be the other as well in this case.


Some places don't have to have it be penetration anymore - or at least what is being used for the penetration doesn't matter. Look at Germany for example. They've set a good precedent in this case.

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Nov 13 2014, 03:20 AM
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Nov 13 2014, 02:48 AM
The first group gets a jail time of no more than 2-4 months.

As for the second group, you can be put in jail for YEARS.

Just wanted to point out that this is not true. You don't get higher sentences for groping than you do rape....



Pretty certain he meant groping being the 2-4 months.
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Ah my mistake, read it the wrong way around. I apologise.

Tbh I don't think I've ever seen someone who gropes people be called a rapist. Creepy? Sure. A whole load of other names, but not a rapist. That term carries a lot of weight behind it and isn't used so casually.

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Personally I don't use gropper in casual conversation. You're either getting to second base of its consensual or sexually assaulting somebody if it's not.
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Nov 13 2014, 03:16 AM
Rape is sexual penetration without permission. You can rape somebody with your finger (which would also be classed as molestation in this particular case) but that doesn't change the fact that person was still raped. It's more about the details, man! One can still be the other as well in this case.
That is definitely not true. You can rape someone orally. Or by rubbing. Also, men can be raped, so that doesn't make much sense does it?

"Rape is only penetration" is a fairly outdated belief, although I am glad you acknowledged that fingers can be used as well.
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Does an adult really go to jail if he grabs an adult woman's butt? Quite dumb honestly.
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I don't think so. Here you would be fined, given a criminal behaviour order and possibly put on a sex offenders register. You would probably also have a restraining order placed against you and you might risk being sued. Lots of annoying things but not a prison sentence. Good luck finding a job with all that stuff against your name.


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