Naruto(Eon) Vs Vegeta(Post Zenkai)

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Naruto(Eon) Vs Vegeta(Post Zenkai)
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 11 2014, 10:47 PM (4,012 Views)
Goku Black	Nov 11 2014, 10:47 PM Post #1
Posts: 633 Group: Member Member #11,119 Joined: March 28, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Yu Yu Hakusho,Hunter x Hunter, Boku no hero academia, dragon ball super What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Pokemon adventures,Berserk, boku no hero,Tokyo ghoul	Who wins? This is the vegeta after krillin hit him.

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Mihawk	Nov 12 2014, 06:08 PM Post #46
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I'm still not sure on that one. It seems like psychic power similar to Choutzu. Question is: what defines the gap that you'd be able to do it to someone? Power level? Destructive capability? Physical strength? It's interesting.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Nov 12 2014, 06:44 PM Post #47
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	wolffanghameha Nov 12 2014, 06:08 PM I'm still not sure on that one. It seems like psychic power similar to Choutzu. Question is: what defines the gap that you'd be able to do it to someone? Power level? Destructive capability? Physical strength? It's interesting. Not exactly sure either. But I'm thinking it's definitely more of an energy attack than a physical attack. Pretty sure piccolo implied it was his destructive power. Seeing as how naruto doesn't have the durability to take on vegetas DC, I think vegeta could do it to him. The saibamen are about as strong as raditz
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+ Steve	Nov 12 2014, 08:32 PM Post #48
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	We don't really know what Naruto's durability is though if it was just an explosion he could probably survive, a beam more like a laser than one that detonates could probably kill him though. I'm pretty sure Sage Mode at so high a level would give him a considerable defence boost anyway. As for Vegeta's technique it's inconceivable that no form of energy has to connect the two, for a start why must he point his fingers at him? Most likely it works the same as invisible Ki blasts, same as Goku uses to dig Vegeta's grave(or is that just in the anime not sure) only it contains far more explosive energy. Given that he never uses it again it probably only works on weaker opponents the only other times he could have used it he was being a d*** and/or showing off a new move/strength. Anyway I don't see how it couldn't be sense-able, perhaps since everyone could sense it the technique became redundant as people could simply slap it away, a technique so hax against people who can't sense has to have some sort of drawback right? If Vegeta was going to kill Naruto I doubt it would be with that anyway. Quote: No again, Vegeta literally charged the attack in a panel and instantly, he doesn't need time at all. And Vegeta wouldn't stay to eat that either. When was this exactly? I don't remember anyone ever saying Vegeta was going to blow up Namek even Frieza could barely do it in his most powerful form, which at 1% is more powerful than Vegeta IIRC.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Nov 12 2014, 09:28 PM Post #49
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Vegeta used it again on cui. Exactly, the attack is invisible. Naruto won't see it coming if there is even a need for a form of energy to connect the two people. And iirc, based on the way frieza showed it, it doesn't look like it all. It looks like partly a psychic technique like wolf said Vegetas full power unamped ki blast at that point is waaay stronger than his planet busting galick gun in the saiyan saga. Frieza could've destroyed the planet of he really wanted to but he only destroyed the core so he could fight frieza
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 12 2014, 09:38 PM Post #50
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Steve Nov 12 2014, 08:32 PM Quote: No again, Vegeta literally charged the attack in a panel and instantly, he doesn't need time at all. And Vegeta wouldn't stay to eat that either. When was this exactly? I don't remember anyone ever saying Vegeta was going to blow up Namek even Frieza could barely do it in his most powerful form, which at 1% is more powerful than Vegeta IIRC. Here are the statements: Chapter: 306 (DBZ 112), P3.1 Context: as Vegeta gets mad and fires at Freeza Piccolo: "Are you trying to wipe out the planet along with him?!" Chapter: 306 (DBZ 112), P5.1-2 Context: talking about Vegeta's planet-destroying attack Piccolo: "[Freeza] knocked that back with just a kick...! Kuririn: "That should have been Vegeta's full power strike... [Freeza]'s too incredible..."
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+ Steve	Nov 12 2014, 10:51 PM Post #51
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Ssj3vegito96 Nov 12 2014, 09:28 PM Vegeta used it again on cui. Exactly, the attack is invisible. Naruto won't see it coming if there is even a need for a form of energy to connect the two people. And iirc, based on the way frieza showed it, it doesn't look like it all. It looks like partly a psychic technique like wolf said Vegetas full power unamped ki blast at that point is waaay stronger than his planet busting galick gun in the saiyan saga. Frieza could've destroyed the planet of he really wanted to but he only destroyed the core so he could fight frieza But he'll sense it unless it's somehow not any form of danger. Stronger yes but not planet busting if Frieza had to bust the core so does Vegeta, he couldn't wipe out the whole planet by hitting the ground and having the attack explode on contact. Look at Big Bang Attack, explosion type techniques don't do all that much surface damage certainly not enough to blow up a planet until later on. Quote: Here are the statements: Chapter: 306 (DBZ 112), P3.1 Context: as Vegeta gets mad and fires at Freeza Piccolo: "Are you trying to wipe out the planet along with him?!" Chapter: 306 (DBZ 112), P5.1-2 Context: talking about Vegeta's planet-destroying attack Piccolo: "[Freeza] knocked that back with just a kick...! Kuririn: "That should have been Vegeta's full power strike... [Freeza]'s too incredible..." Translation I just read says "that will extinguish his Ki" which it clearly did. If the one you posted is legit it's hyperbole, Vegeta was being stupid he'd have blown up that whole area and himself with such a desperate attack. Not to mention that was all of his Ki in a tiny attack, Naruto could dodge that easily and even if it was going to blow up the planet...well they'd both die so what good is that?
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 12 2014, 10:55 PM Post #52
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	This is herm's translation, prropably the most reliable when it comes to that, and it was not a hyperbole Vegeta from saiyan arc could planet bust, Vegeta was incrediblly desperate at that moment as you may recall, he cared about nothing in that moment. If that blast goes as fast as Piccolo SBC did then not sure, but in any case i never argued Vegeta could defeat Naruto with that, just to confirm Vegeta can actually do it, and Frieza bounched it back with a mere kick.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Nov 12 2014, 11:08 PM Post #53
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	@steve Assuming there needs to be a form of energy connecting the two people, then yeah he can probably sense it. We don't know how fast the ability is though. Since kiais hit their target every time they've been used, I think they're either much faster than ki blasts, or for some reason they just can't be sensed The blast that vegeta shot at frieza was strong enough to destroy the planet but vegeta had no intention of destroying the planet. When I say planet buster all I mean is that the blast is only potent enough to destroy the planet. And naruto cannot withstand a condensed planet buster. That's all I'm saying. And no it wasn't a hyperbole
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Mihawk	Nov 12 2014, 11:19 PM Post #54
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I think it's a psychic attack personally. Goku was shown to be able to read minds too. I doubt it's Kiai or simple Ki. The gap needs to be massive though. Like 10000x I think? Naruto should have a PL in the 1000s, so I doubt Vegeta could do it until post Zenkai.



~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 12 2014, 11:50 PM Post #55
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Naruto power lvl in the 1000s? lol He doesn't have the dc or durability of start of Z piccolo Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 12 2014, 11:51 PM.



+ Steve	Nov 12 2014, 11:50 PM Post #56
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Orochimaru Nov 12 2014, 10:55 PM This is herm's translation, prropably the most reliable when it comes to that, and it was not a hyperbole Vegeta from saiyan arc could planet bust, Vegeta was incrediblly desperate at that moment as you may recall, he cared about nothing in that moment. If that blast goes as fast as Piccolo SBC did then not sure, but in any case i never argued Vegeta could defeat Naruto with that, just to confirm Vegeta can actually do it, and Frieza bounched it back with a mere kick. Core bust, not planet bust. They essentially make the planet destroy itself its only much later they can legitimately blow up planets. Kiais definitely seem much faster but the drawback of that is they're much weaker, they're only useful against fodder and that's all they're really used on so that makes it clear. Quote: Naruto power lvl in the 1000s? lol He doesn't have the dc or durability of start of Z piccolo Probably because DB is the only series that works so linearly as that. Hax >>>>>> energy output Edited by Steve, Nov 12 2014, 11:52 PM.
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~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 12 2014, 11:52 PM Post #57
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Those fodder have better durability than naruto Edit: @steve that's cool but that still doesn't change the fact that naruto can't take an attack from start of Z piccolo Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 12 2014, 11:56 PM.



* Yu Narukami	Nov 12 2014, 11:55 PM Post #58
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Given the right circumstances, Naruto is definitely a planet buster. He's taken attacks that were around the level of his own attacks too, so his durability should be planet+ level.



Mihawk	Nov 12 2014, 11:57 PM Post #59
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Only Krillin would have better durability then Naruto. PL isn't dependent only on destructive capability. Farmer with shotgun had a PL of 5 and Roshi had a PL in the 100s. It doesn't work that way. Naruto has better speed and stamina than people in the 1000s. It should even out his lack of DC.



~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 12 2014, 11:57 PM Post #60
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	how exactly does naruto have better stamina? Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 13 2014, 12:02 AM.



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