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Naruto(Eon) Vs Vegeta(Post Zenkai)
Topic Started: Nov 11 2014, 10:47 PM (4,014 Views)
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Who wins?
This is the vegeta after krillin hit him.
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King Kakarot
Nov 11 2014, 11:25 PM
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Nov 11 2014, 11:19 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 11 2014, 11:15 PM
Still haven't got an answer on how fast Naruto is...

Regardless we have s*** tiers like BOZ piccolo blast reaching the moon in seconds(making the blast already in the quadruple range at the very least)

and raditz could side step those kinda fast attacks from Piccolo and Vegeta is multiple x above raditz at this point
Nearing the speed of light due to being compared to teleportation multiple times.

@Moon blast http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9075053&t=8508249
1.still doesn't change the fact that it reached the moon in seconds

2.What? Just because you have teleportation like speeds doesn't make you anywhere close to the speed of light

Ex: If someone could move at mach 20 and your in a football stadium with them and told them to run from one end of the field to another do you think you could keep track of them?

Nope you would think they were teleporting becuase they are moving so fast your brain can't keep track of thier speed

Doesn't imply anything at all about going light speeds lol

Just a way of saying someone is going fast
No Raikage was actually keeping up with teleportation speeds and he then compared Naruto to teleportation speeds. Someone who can keep with with the speeds will have a valid opinion on the topic.

If the acceleration in space is faster then it would matter. It could accelerate from 100 km/h on Earth 1mil/kh in space (death of the author remember). Sometimes beams later in the series are a conversation's worth of time. They don't take seconds at all.

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1.Yes teleportation speeds are just a way of saying someone is really fast.Other people on different sites don't put him anywhere near light speed.Like my example before moving at mach 20 speeds in a football stadium would look like your're teleporting all over the place

2.Talking is a free action people can have all the time in the world when talking

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeAction
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Nov 11 2014, 11:54 PM
1.Yes teleportation speeds are just a way of saying someone is really fast.Other people on different sites don't put him anywhere near light speed.Like my example before moving at mach 20 speeds in a football stadium would look like your're teleporting all over the place

2.Talking is a free action people can have all the time in the world when talking

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeAction
1. He didn't look like he was teleporting. Naruto characters have looked like they were teleporting since day one. He was compared to the speed of someone who was teleporting by someone who was nearly as fast as someone who can keep up with a teleporter.

2. Death of the author gets rid of that. There's no author therefore no free action.

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1.Yes another way of saying he's fast not he's moving at the speed of light lol

2. Tropes can be determined by the person reading the work not the author lol
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Vegeta wins because I'm biased :p .
EDIT: Also, if Naruto stands less of a chance against post Zarbon Vegeta, how come Sasuke is at Namek arc Goku level? Aren't Naruto and Sasuke roughly equals?
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Nov 12 2014, 12:20 AM.
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Realisticly Raditz is enough to beat Naruto lol
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Nov 12 2014, 12:20 AM
Realisticly Raditz is enough to beat Naruto lol
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Let's not go there friends.
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it's not bait it's just denial really

Raditz has more than enough firepower and speed to put him down
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Don't see Naruto characters getting passed Saiyan Arc characters without the use of Genjutsu and then they would have to be quick on using said technique without being instantly killed (depending if the opponent is blood lusted or not).
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Nov 12 2014, 12:07 AM
1.Yes another way of saying he's fast not he's moving at the speed of light lol

2. Tropes can be determined by the person reading the work not the author lol

1. Enjoy your circle

2.Tropes don't exist if the author doesn't exist
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Nov 12 2014, 12:18 AM
Vegeta wins because I'm biased :p .
EDIT: Also, if Naruto stands less of a chance against post Zarbon Vegeta, how come Sasuke is at Namek arc Goku level? Aren't Naruto and Sasuke roughly equals?

Because Sasuke is immune to ki attacks.

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But does Goku really need Ki? He could easily augment his physical strikes to finish him off, and as you said, wouldn't the Genki Dama work? What is Sasuke gonna do to stop that? Furthermore, how does Naruto get passed his Chakra absorbing ability?
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Nov 12 2014, 01:07 AM
But does Goku really need Ki? He could easily augment his physical strikes to finish him off, and as you said, wouldn't the Genki Dama work? What is Sasuke gonna do to stop that? Furthermore, how does Naruto get passed his Chakra absorbing ability?
How would Goku find out that Genki would damage him, though? If the Kamehameha doesn't work, would he have any reason to assume that the Genki Dama would be any different?
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Nov 12 2014, 01:07 AM
But does Goku really need Ki? He could easily augment his physical strikes to finish him off, and as you said, wouldn't the Genki Dama work? What is Sasuke gonna do to stop that? Furthermore, how does Naruto get passed his Chakra absorbing ability?
We don't know if at that time in the series, vegeta can punch hard enough to get through susanoo. And naruto doesn't need energy blasts to beat susanoo. He's physically the strongest character in naruto not including gai with the eighth gate open
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Nov 12 2014, 01:11 AM
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Nov 12 2014, 01:07 AM
But does Goku really need Ki? He could easily augment his physical strikes to finish him off, and as you said, wouldn't the Genki Dama work? What is Sasuke gonna do to stop that? Furthermore, how does Naruto get passed his Chakra absorbing ability?
How would Goku find out that Genki would damage him, though? If the Kamehameha doesn't work, would he have any reason to assume that the Genki Dama would be any different?
Well, the Genki Dama utilizes Genki. It certainly has special properties, and realistically if everything else failed, he'd have no choice but to try it.
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