Orochimaru vs The Akatsuki

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Orochimaru vs The Akatsuki
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 10 2014, 08:50 PM (1,025 Views)
+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 10 2014, 08:50 PM Post #1
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Conditions for the battle: - Orochimaru is at Full Power and he is from after he took over Zetsu's body, he can use imperfect edo tensei if needed. - Orochimaru takes on all the akatsuki members one on one each, after each battle he gets healed and fights the next member. - Battlefield is the sannin battleground. - Anime exclusive feats can be used here. - Feats and statements can also be used. - Also use Perfected Edo if Needed. So who can Oro beat out of all the akatsuki members? - Pain - Obito Uchiha - Itachi Uchiha - Kisame Hoshigaki - Kakuzu - Hidan - Konan - Sasori - Deidara
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Arkadom	Nov 11 2014, 12:28 AM Post #2
Bargle nawdle zouss Posts: 3,774 Group: Member Member #5,620 Joined: January 12, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Naruto, Shaman King What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Shaman King, Naruto, Blue Exorcist, Bleach, Pokemon Adventures	I'd give him anyone on the list below Kisame, though I'd possible swap Kisame for Hidan as I can't think of Orochimaru having any seals powerful enough to stop Hidan, seeing as he is immortal. As for Kakuzu, with the right attacks and use of edo tensei he could destroy all of Kakuzu's hearts, I'd say Deidara and Sasori would be quite simple if Orochimaru has full power and use of both his arms as neither of them know his actual tactics that well, and the use of edo tensei fighters introduces a whole new variety of things to analyse in battle. Konan would be simple enough, Orochimaru could probably survive most of her abilities without too much trouble, anything too extreme he could get out of using his snake techniques or by summoning Manda/whatever snake replaced Manda after he died. Kisame is a 50/50 for me, he has a lot of tricks up his sleeve, was arguably the last surviving pure Akatsuki (I don't count Obito or Zetsu as they were the behind the scenes hands and not so much the actual body of the organization.) and had use of Samehada, which leeches chakra. Kisame has a wide range of techniques and is quite powerful, but it's unlikely he could take on too many opponents at once, especially reanimated corpses he would have to seal away, but in strictly one vs one it's debatable. Itachi defeated Orochimaru easily even after receiving a sneak attack and didn't even use more than one jutsu, Itachi has access to one of the most powerful sealing techniques in the series (Sword of Totsuka) and also has Amaterasu, Susano'o, use of other genjutsu, and if it comes down to it, Itachi could do the same to Orochimaru as he did to Kabuto and use Izanami, or even Izanagi, and Itachi has shown himself to be capable of reversing edo tensei, even if it's an unorthodox method, Itachi's blindness is his only real downfall here. As for Obito, I don't see many ways Orochimaru could beat him, he has no way of countering kamui and has little to no knowledge of Obito's abilities, it's a pretty simple thing here. As for Pain, if it's only Yahiko's body in use and the other 5 bodies are not in the fight, it's debatable, outside of canon/in the game canon, Pain proved capable of defeated Orochimaru singlehandedly with just the Deva path, and Orochimaru can't do much against chibaku tensei, shinra tensei or the chakra-siphoning rods. I give this one to Pain, even though it's possible Orochimaru could fight back and possibly win through strategy if Pain doesn't have the benefit of multiple points of view from his other bodies.
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TheACE	Nov 11 2014, 02:09 AM Post #3
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Oh thank the matrix, I honestly thought this was Orochimaru attacking all 9 members of Akatsuki. I would have screamed spite so hard lol. Back to the topic, I honestly think he can beat Zetsu, Deidara, possibly Sasori, Hidan. He's got some pretty mad skills and Sasuke showed how effective the White Snake style is on Deidara's Art techniques. Sasori has defeated Orochimaru, but neither of them were at full power, so it's debatable. Hidan can be outsmarted, and Orochimaru is actually a pretty smart Shinobi, so I'm sure he could match Shikamaru. The buck stops at Kakuzu. He's a very old Shinobi that can take a lot of punishment, and had direct counters for all of Orochimaru's elemental techniques, and I'm sure something for summons. Then again, Kakashi, Naruto and Chouji's combined assault was enough to take him down, not that Chouji and Naruto aren't tough, but I just feel like Orochimaru could probably at leSt survive a fight with the lot of them. Konan's fight with Tobi was far more spectacular than anything I've seen the White Snake Sannin do, and I honestly think she's drastically underestimated. Kisame never tires, has a minor healing factor, his sword consistently feeds him, he can generate his own oceans and he's taken down master Jinchuriki without Itachi's help. So I think he's got this. Itachi... God anytime Orochimaru is in the same ROOM as Itachi he gets his pasty a*** whipped, dat Sharingan. Obito, see above. Pein. Rinnegan. Nuff said. Poor Orochimaru. Zetsu is a non-factor simply because he isn't a combat type Shinobi. These are facts, he's S-Class, but S-Class support.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 11 2014, 07:30 PM Post #4
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Well thanks for the great posts you guys, some things i disagree a bit with though . Arkadom@ Orochimaru is smart enough to find a way to defeat Hidan, plus he was a former akatsuki member so he knows about Hidan's only jutsu. I also think Oro can take down Kisame, let's not forget the big variety of Orochimaru's jutsu the poisson snakes, the summons the edo tensei, Kakashi and Asuma along with Gai were somewhat comparable to him, Oro coukd take down all 3 of them. Also Kisame immediatly stated he was below Base Jiraya, whom i consider far weaker than Oro FP with Edo. I don't find Obito that strong to be honest, Oro is smart i think he could find a way, well Itachi seems to be stronger than Oro thanks to the sharingan, darn Itachi has every possible counter for every tecknique Oro has, all the jutsu he might have are useless before his eyes as was stated. Ya think Pain could be defeated by the sannin? Ace@ Sasori did not defeat Oro actually, he was intentionally fighting like that and caught Pain off guard, hench Oro could kill Sasori in that scene if he wasn't after the rinnegan, not to mention in that fight Oro wasn't fighting seriously nor he used Edo, Sasori was fighting at his best. I also don't find Kakuzu very impressive, his taijutsu is in the same realm as Kakashi and he has no real attack to kill Oro, plus we saw no counter for summons or heck maybe even poisson. Konan was impressive, but she would eventually fall, she has no real attack to kill Oro, and Kisame can be beat like i said above for Arkadom.
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TheACE	Nov 11 2014, 07:34 PM Post #5
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	What about that over the top 6 Billion paper bombs thing that leveled their entire battle ground? That's pretty impressive I think.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 11 2014, 07:41 PM Post #6
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Oro could save himself from that the same way Sasuke did with Deidara, or shed his skin, but i think Oro could survive that, he did survive Kyubi 4 tailed Naruto's beast bomb.
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TheACE	Nov 11 2014, 07:45 PM Post #7
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Ok I'll give you that, but how is he gonna take out Tobi? Orochimaru hasn't ever beaten anyone with a Sharingan, never the less the Rinnegan.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 11 2014, 07:52 PM Post #8
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Yes it does seem that he is weak at the sharingan and the rinnegan, and i agree that in one on one he would lose because of that, but he does have the edo with him after all unless what Itachi said also applyes for Obito as well, the fact that all of Oro's jutsu are useless before his eyes, if that is the case then yeah he is weaker.
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Mihawk	Nov 11 2014, 08:03 PM Post #9
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	With perfected edo he should be able to beat everyone except Itachi, who would most likely blitz him before the battle starts. I mean seriously Hashirama would beat anyone on that list.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 11 2014, 09:10 PM Post #10
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Well i am aware that with perfected edo Oro would win by far, if he got the prep, but how about the imperfect one? The one he used against Hiruzen?
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* Stark	Nov 11 2014, 09:43 PM Post #11
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	He loses against Pein, Itachi and Tobi most of the time. I give Kisame a slight edge and everyone else is 50/50 imo except for Hidan, Konan with no prep time (no 6 billions paper tags which would destroy Orochimaru), Sasori if he starts in Hiruko and Zetsu. Edited by Stark, Nov 11 2014, 09:49 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 13 2014, 05:37 PM Post #12
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Puccio Nov 11 2014, 09:43 PM He loses against Pein, Itachi and Tobi most of the time. I give Kisame a slight edge and everyone else is 50/50 imo except for Hidan, Konan with no prep time (no 6 billions paper tags which would destroy Orochimaru), Sasori if he starts in Hiruko and Zetsu. Why have Kisame stronger? I am just curious, and you believe Sasori > Orochimaru?
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* Stark	Nov 13 2014, 06:06 PM Post #13
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	Sasori with the Third Kazekage out is imo more of a 50/50 but I tend to favour Orochimaru because of his insane endurace and huge snakes. Seriously, huge snakes! Kisame's overall a beast. I don't think Oro's snakes are any good underwater tbh, correct me if I'm mistaken.



+ Majin Vegeta	Nov 13 2014, 08:02 PM Post #14
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Puccio Nov 13 2014, 06:06 PM Sasori with the Third Kazekage out is imo more of a 50/50 but I tend to favour Orochimaru because of his insane endurace and huge snakes. Seriously, huge snakes! Kisame's overall a beast. I don't think Oro's snakes are any good underwater tbh, correct me if I'm mistaken. I don't think Sasori is really that strong, in the special ova we saw Orochimaru was able to fight him equallly even though Sasori was using the third kazekage, note that Oro did not even use any summons nor edo tensei for the matter and could kill Sasori if he didn't went for Pain's rinnegan instead. Sasori's 100 puppets is just a weak jutsu against Oro, the dude has shown immense strengh on his own, and knows the weaknesses of the puppets, plus the summons would help him, if Sakura could defeat them Oro squashes them . Kisame is not immune to poisson is he? That's a huge advantage in Oro's favor, the snakes, the wind release, the summons, his kusanagi sword, his immense skills would be to much, and going by statements Kisame said that Base Jiraya > him, and i believe Oro > Base Jiraya. If things turn bad let's not forget the ultimate jutsu of Oro, the eight branches no way Kisame survives that. Edited by Majin Vegeta, Nov 13 2014, 08:07 PM.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Nov 17 2014, 03:39 AM Post #15
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I know he can beat Sasori from OVA. But how much does that matter? Kinda like Eradicate the Saiyans/Yo Son Goku. That's what I wanna know.



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