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Sasuke (EoN) vs Goku (Post 100G Training)
Topic Started: Nov 9 2014, 06:42 PM (4,913 Views)
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Who wins?

Goku is shown to be incredibly fast, although to what degree is largely vague
Goku's maximum KHH blast can destroy Earth
Saskue seems to be able to swap places with the air, effectively making him a teleporter (does expend his chakra)
Sasuke's strongest attack caused in EQ when colliding and canceling and equally powerful attack.

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Nov 13 2014, 08:32 PM
Prove what?

What is there to prove? How fast some rocks fell to earth?

It's nonsensical really if it had taken minutes what exactly would it change?

Master Roshi blew up the moon at the end of the day
You're trying to disprove that the moon is inside the Earth's atmosphere in the Dragon Universe.

I agree that the whole discussion is nonsensical, but that's Other Versus for ya.
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Dr. Zoidberg
Nov 13 2014, 08:34 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 13 2014, 08:32 PM
Prove what?

What is there to prove? How fast some rocks fell to earth?

It's nonsensical really if it had taken minutes what exactly would it change?

Master Roshi blew up the moon at the end of the day
You're trying to disprove that the moon is inside the Earth's atmosphere in the Dragon Universe.

I agree that the whole discussion is nonsensical, but that's Other Versus for ya.
1.Well you're all basing that it looks close to earth via scaling.

2.Authors don't make things to scale(akira actually says this)

3.Akira has already said that the moon is the same irl

4.occams raor
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Izanagi!

Isn't Death of an Author pretty popular around here nowadays?
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Nagito Komaeda
Nov 13 2014, 08:37 PM
Isn't Death of an Author pretty popular around here nowadays?
Doesn't take a genius to realize people don't draw things to scale
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Nov 13 2014, 08:36 PM
3.Akira has already said that the moon is the same irl
You actually have to back up this. Please provide evidence that Akira Toriyama said this. I know I'm asking a lot, but we should expect at the very least that members back up claims.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:40 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Nov 13 2014, 08:37 PM
Isn't Death of an Author pretty popular around here nowadays?
Doesn't take a genius to realize people don't draw things to scale
I was more talking about Toriyama's comment about the moon being the same as it is in real life. Looking at the work itself, with the scene with Boss Rabbit earlier on, and the debris falling to the floor within seconds of the moon being blown up, the most logical conclusion would be that the moon is inside the Earth 's atmosphere and fairly close to the surface.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:40 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 13 2014, 08:36 PM
3.Akira has already said that the moon is the same irl
You actually have to back up this. Please provide evidence that Akira Toriyama said this. I know I'm asking a lot, but we should expect at the very least that members back up claims.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/tankobon/vol-09/

Rougly the same as our moon
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Thanks. Unless we provide proof for what we say, we would end up in an endless circle of unnecessary bickering.
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Dr. Zoidberg
Nov 13 2014, 08:48 PM
Thanks. Unless we provide proof for what we say, we would end up in an endless circle of unnecessary bickering.
No problem
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1. Toriyama forgot about boss rabbit the same way he forgot about ssj3.

2. We know goku traveled across namek in seconds but how impressive is that? How big is namek? How does that tell us how fast post 100g training goku is?

And I'm skeptical of the statement on the manga cover saying they were on the other side of the planet. How can base goku on namek have a travel speed that fast when base gohan in the buu saga was like what? Mach 2.5 or something?
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Nov 13 2014, 09:21 PM.
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Lol you guys let him get away with too much in terms of the rubble. First off if the moon's distance was really that far, the chances of the rubble coming back and hitting Krillin and Yamcha are the equivalent of impossible. The chance is trillions upon trillions. It makes more sense for the Earth to just be in the atmosphere. This is how you properly use occam's razor.

Next you have to realize that the Earth's mesosphere actually will burn up all rock sediment that try to pass through it. That's the reason you aren't constantly barraged with residue from disintegrated meteors. On top of all that, the implication that pieces of rock went near the speed of light to get back to Earth and still made it intact are somewhat laughable.

And once again, going by Death of the Author Akira Toriyama doesn't exist anymore. That way we see the universe as a real universe without an author. What you see is what you get. Interviews are gone. All we have are statements and drawings.

/Outside Death of the Author/
As the manga was originally written it's highly probable Toriyama didn't know about the massive distance between the Moon and Earth originally. Either that or he made it fairly smaller to make the gag scenes and other plot tools easier to write.
/Back inside/

And once again, when you go by death of the author you act like plot tools don't exist. Either way the Roshi/Piccolo's blast have no major implications towards speed.

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All is see are implications at the end of the day vegeta beats naruto senseless

Raditz alone would give naruto the time of his life

The moon is the same distance as our own and there attacks reached there in sceonds

Then again im arguing with a person who thinks teleporting means light speed movement lol
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Back in a circle then? Ok suit yourself.

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Nov 14 2014, 04:00 AM
All is see are implications at the end of the day vegeta beats naruto senseless
You are adding absolutely zilt and zero to the discussion, mate.

People are trying to counter your pathetic responses by giving valid proof and reasoning.

Your response? "Lol, nope, not gonna happen because I said so".


That's all I'm seeing here.
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Can Sasuke blow up planets like Vegeta did?

No..

Speed- Vegeta

Strength- Vegeta

Only way Sasuke could win is genjustu


I was mistaken .....Sasuke Wins due to various aspects of techniques.
Edited by Pointer, Nov 14 2014, 03:07 PM.

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