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Sasuke (EoN) vs Goku (Post 100G Training)
Topic Started: Nov 9 2014, 06:42 PM (4,914 Views)
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Who wins?

Goku is shown to be incredibly fast, although to what degree is largely vague
Goku's maximum KHH blast can destroy Earth
Saskue seems to be able to swap places with the air, effectively making him a teleporter (does expend his chakra)
Sasuke's strongest attack caused in EQ when colliding and canceling and equally powerful attack.

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Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 13 2014, 08:12 PM.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
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..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it.
You're making up assumptions based on nothing. You can't accurately say how fast Roshi's Wave was, much less how fast the debris is going to go after the moon explosion.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:06 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
Ever heard of atmospheric re entry?

Left over peices got burned up in the atmosphere and all that fell to earth were tiny rocks

Problem solved

Edit: his attack was obviously hypersonic
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 13 2014, 08:17 PM.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
Ever heard of atmospheric re entry?

Left over peices got burned up in the atmosphere and all that fell to earth were tiny rocks

Problem solved
How fast did those tiny rocks fall, though? You see one of them bounce of Krillin's head and another is just laying on the ground.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:07 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 08:06 PM
King Kakarot
Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
Ever heard of atmospheric re entry?

Left over peices got burned up in the atmosphere and all that fell to earth were tiny rocks

Problem solved
How fast did those tiny rocks fall, though? You see one of them bounce of Krillin's head and another is just laying on the ground.
What's your point exactly?

They fell from space and got burned up by earths atmosphere

Leaving tiny rocks

Don't see what's the issue here

Unless your implying those tiny rocks were going at relativistic speeds krillin wouldn't feel it tbh
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
Ever heard of atmospheric re entry?

Left over peices got burned up in the atmosphere and all that fell to earth were tiny rocks

Problem solved

Edit: his attack was obviously hypersonic
You can't back up your claims, is what I'm saying. I can just aswell say you're making this stuff up on the fly.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
Ever heard of atmospheric re entry?

Left over peices got burned up in the atmosphere and all that fell to earth were tiny rocks

Problem solved
How fast did those tiny rocks fall, though? You see one of them bounce of Krillin's head and another is just laying on the ground.
What's your point exactly?

They fell from space and got burned up by earths atmosphere

Leaving tiny rocks

Don't see what's the issue here
What I'm asking is why those tiny rocks didn't break into even smaller pieces upon impact with the ground/Krillin's head.
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No, cutting 3 mountains without even making contact is high end.

Not with physical power though that's his aura smashing them same as how powering up causes tremors and stuff, it's nothing to do with their strength it's their energy.
As well Madara's feat is through his energy too, unless you want to point that Susanoo isn't energy.

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Talking about Naruto vs Sasuke there.
And no it wouldn't, what kind of logic is that? Even if Goku's punches could do serious damage and make contact Naruto can regenerate.
Can Naruto regenerate from getting ripped apart?


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Recoome who was already damaged from fighting and was pathetically weak in DBZ's linear power scaling, Naruto isn't a part of that and can't be placed in it PL defeats PL but PL doesn't defeat more impressive feats.
That kind of power is irrelevant there are what...3 beings in the whole verse who could do that and survive, Vegeta isn't one of them.
Damaged? He was completely fine. You're trying to push the edge but that'll get you in trouble. Naruto is nowhere near Recoome either. He's not pathetically weak either, at least compared to Namek Saga DBZ. Treating Vegeta like fodder isn't rubbish at all.

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Where is it stated he's on the other side and where is stated how long he was beating Vegeta up for? That's not a speed feat it's a shounen trope.
Scaling makes no sense anyway.
In one of the manga releases' cover. When Frieza begun to destroy Vegeta, Goku woke up and got out. There was no timeframe given, but as Frieza was going to kill Vegeta, Goku powered through and reached there before Vegeta was killed. Unless you think that Frieza held his hand up for minutes or something, it must have been a few seconds only.

It actually does in a manga like DBZ.

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Neither could Goku nor can he move at light speed without IT and there's literally no evidence to support otherwise.
Goku could deflect an attack several times that was stated to be light, and was suggested that it meant the speed, Piccolo said something along those lines. Don't remember that really well though, but what I remember that they were amazed at Goku deflecting "light".

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So? She'd still have died and she was on water she only survived because Sasuke absorbed it or whatever.
Explain how you take fire off yourself please...
Burning clothes yeah but Goku has plenty of skin showing.
How does he dodge Sasuke smacking him with it or teleporting him to a burning area?
Water didn't do anything to her really, and Sasuke absorbed it after a while. Goku doesn't have much skin showing. Just his arms really, and he could knock the fire out, the same way Nagato did.

He dodge it because he's simply faster.

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Have you not watched the series? Jiraiya kept going after Pain ripped his arm off, he just got wrecked but he would have kept going otherwise and barely noticed his arm was off. Raikage just stood there while burning then cut his own arm off so he could continue fighting and he willfully sacrificed his arm just to punch Sasuke.

Piccolo and Goku are the only examples of people who don't b*** out or do something stupid after being injured although Goku does he just happens to succeed because that's the story. Plus Piccolo regenerates he doesn't even have to care.
Goku couldn't take the pain of Raditz standing on his chest even though he still had the stamina to put him in the ultimate technique, the Full Nelson.
Of course I have. He was really bad, and only kept because he wanted to know the secret. I could say the same to the Raikage too because he doesn't b*** out.

That's not pain tolerance. A way stronger character was pretty much hitting him.


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I've not even mentioned Genjutsu. Sasuke could have Goku doing whatever he wanted, wasting energy firing it off in the distance killing fake Sasuke's(like against Deidara) or just thinking he's fighting Sasuke when he's actually flying towards outer space and with that his death.
Goku has no defence against Genjutsu, at all. He wouldn't even know he has to defend against it.
Would Genjutsu even work on Goku? Ki doesn't work like Chakra, and Goku would notice that something is affecting his Ki. He could take it away by simply powering up or turning it down.

Goku would blitz and oneshot Sasuke. You didn't prove that Sasuke has anything to hurt Goku, and Goku is strong enough to take him down no argument.
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Either the moon is really damn close to the Earth, like lower than 8,000 meters above sea level, or Boss Rabbit has some superhero powers.

Dunno how long it would take, but small chunks would burn up during atmospheric reentry. Large enough fragments could destroy cities and countries could be wiped off the map.
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..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
Yes it does it

Edit: what would I need to work out he blew up the moon and only a few pieces remained not that hard to understand
And what happened to those pieces, sport? Did they disappear into nothingness?
Ever heard of atmospheric re entry?

Left over peices got burned up in the atmosphere and all that fell to earth were tiny rocks

Problem solved

Edit: his attack was obviously hypersonic
You can't back up your claims, is what I'm saying. I can just aswell say you're making this stuff up on the fly.
Making what up?

His attack reached the moon in seconds making his blast hypersonic

Unless Roshi stood there for hours lol
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Making what up?

His attack reached the moon in seconds making his blast hypersonic

Unless Roshi stood there for hours lol
I'm not disputing that fact. It's your "debris falling to Earth in mere seconds after impact" claim I am referring to.
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Making what up?

His attack reached the moon in seconds making his blast hypersonic

Unless Roshi stood there for hours lol
I'm not disputing that fact. It's your "debris falling to Earth in mere seconds after impact" claim I am referring to.
It happens in the next panel blasting things at hypersonic speeds and adding into earth's gravitational pull the debris will be coming down pretty fast

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It happens in the next panel blasting things at hypersonic speeds and adding into earth's gravitational pull the debris will be coming down pretty fast

Stop going around in circles. Prove what you are claiming.
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Prove what?

What is there to prove? How fast some rocks fell to earth?

It's nonsensical really if it had taken minutes what exactly would it change?

Master Roshi blew up the moon at the end of the day
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