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Sasuke (EoN) vs Goku (Post 100G Training)
Topic Started: Nov 9 2014, 06:42 PM (4,915 Views)
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Who wins?

Goku is shown to be incredibly fast, although to what degree is largely vague
Goku's maximum KHH blast can destroy Earth
Saskue seems to be able to swap places with the air, effectively making him a teleporter (does expend his chakra)
Sasuke's strongest attack caused in EQ when colliding and canceling and equally powerful attack.

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Honestly I can't make a better post at this point after Arkadom's.

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Steve
Nov 12 2014, 01:29 PM
And no way would he fight while burning DB characters have very poor pain tolerance in comparison to Naruto characters who casually continue fighting after losing limbs.
Not really, Goku at 23th budokai got his heart destroyed by Piccolo's mouth blast, then Piccolo was torturing him there, and Goku still fought back and took him down. Also when Goku was fighting King Piccolo, he fought a whole battle got all of his limbs broken and defeated Piccolo with just a hand. Vegeta kept fighting Andoid 18 with a broken arm, Bojack was capable of fighting with a hole in his stomach if we count movies.
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Nov 12 2014, 03:17 PM
Steve
Nov 12 2014, 01:29 PM
And no way would he fight while burning DB characters have very poor pain tolerance in comparison to Naruto characters who casually continue fighting after losing limbs.
Not really, Goku at 23th budokai got his heart destroyed by Piccolo's mouth blast, then Piccolo was torturing him there, and Goku still fought back and took him down. Also when Goku was fighting King Piccolo, he fought a whole battle got all of his limbs broken and defeated Piccolo with just a hand. Vegeta kept fighting Andoid 18 with a broken arm, Bojack was capable of fighting with a hole in his stomach if we count movies.
Given that Goku never died he didn't lose his heart.

The best they do after getting a hole put in them or a limb severed is a final attack or a rage move, like Tien.
Also Vegeta when 18 breaks his arm he goes nuts. Goku is the only exception really but there's still a limit when Raditz was standing on his chest he didn't tough it out, not like Raikage who didn't even wince with Amaterasu on him or Naruto and Sasuke who lost their arms and just kind of laughed about it.
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Nov 12 2014, 01:29 PM
How? Even Madara's Susano'o performs what is a high end physical strength feat and his is a baby compared to Sasuke's.
High End? You consider cutting a mountain in half with a huge sword a high end feat?

It doesn't matter. Goku shattered multiple plateaus by just jumping. That's back in the Saiyan Saga in just KKx2.

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He doesn't hit Naruto with it because Naruto is in his Bijuu form and preparing an equally powerful attack plus Naruto is faster than him with raw speed.
Is he? Now I want you to prove it. Naruto has an equally powerful attack? Prove it. A punch would remove Naruto from existence no argument.

One punch from Goku took out Recoome. Vegeta with his strongest blast failed to do anything. A weaker Vegeta with his strongest blast could destroy Earth.

Goku could move from the other side of Namek when Vegeta was receiving a beating from Frieza to the other side before Vegeta was killed. Without Kaioken. I know we're talking about a weaker Goku than this, but our Goku is fully capable to be scaled to that.


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Also how could Goku possibly do that? All Sasuke has to be doing is seeing something, Goku would have to be so fast that he travels faster than the light from anything reaches Sasuke's eyes which is nonsense.
Goku couldn't rush in without getting burned and with Amaterasu/Enton at the very least 6000 degrees he's not going to enjoy that.
I could easily back that up if you want. Sasuke cannot react to light speed objects.

Tell that to Karin. She enjoyed a few seconds of Amaterasu. Goku could dodge that easily or take it off if it hit.

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And no way would he fight while burning DB characters have very poor pain tolerance in comparison to Naruto characters who casually continue fighting after losing limbs.
What? Naruto characters casually continue fighting after losing limbs? The heck? Prove it to me.

Goku, who was extremely tired and exhausted as well as injured, got blasted through the chest, and still beat Piccolo. Goku got all of his limbs broken, as well as injured, and could still jump high and kill King Piccolo. Piccolo lost a hand from Cell and he could still fight Cell afterwards. Where are you trying to get exactly? No one in Naruto lost limbs to even bring that they could fight afterwards.

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Nov 13 2014, 01:53 PM
High End? You consider cutting a mountain in half with a huge sword a high end feat?

It doesn't matter. Goku shattered multiple plateaus by just jumping. That's back in the Saiyan Saga in just KKx2.

Is he? Now I want you to prove it. Naruto has an equally powerful attack? Prove it. A punch would remove Naruto from existence no argument.

One punch from Goku took out Recoome. Vegeta with his strongest blast failed to do anything. A weaker Vegeta with his strongest blast could destroy Earth.

Goku could move from the other side of Namek when Vegeta was receiving a beating from Frieza to the other side before Vegeta was killed. Without Kaioken. I know we're talking about a weaker Goku than this, but our Goku is fully capable to be scaled to that.


I could easily back that up if you want. Sasuke cannot react to light speed objects.

Tell that to Karin. She enjoyed a few seconds of Amaterasu. Goku could dodge that easily or take it off if it hit.

What? Naruto characters casually continue fighting after losing limbs? The heck? Prove it to me.

Goku, who was extremely tired and exhausted as well as injured, got blasted through the chest, and still beat Piccolo. Goku got all of his limbs broken, as well as injured, and could still jump high and kill King Piccolo. Piccolo lost a hand from Cell and he could still fight Cell afterwards. Where are you trying to get exactly? No one in Naruto lost limbs to even bring that they could fight afterwards.

No, cutting 3 mountains without even making contact is high end.

Not with physical power though that's his aura smashing them same as how powering up causes tremors and stuff, it's nothing to do with their strength it's their energy.

Talking about Naruto vs Sasuke there.
And no it wouldn't, what kind of logic is that? Even if Goku's punches could do serious damage and make contact Naruto can regenerate.


Recoome who was already damaged from fighting and was pathetically weak in DBZ's linear power scaling, Naruto isn't a part of that and can't be placed in it PL defeats PL but PL doesn't defeat more impressive feats.
That kind of power is irrelevant there are what...3 beings in the whole verse who could do that and survive, Vegeta isn't one of them.

Where is it stated he's on the other side and where is stated how long he was beating Vegeta up for? That's not a speed feat it's a shounen trope.
Scaling makes no sense anyway.

Neither could Goku nor can he move at light speed without IT and there's literally no evidence to support otherwise.

So? She'd still have died and she was on water she only survived because Sasuke absorbed it or whatever.
Explain how you take fire off yourself please...
Burning clothes yeah but Goku has plenty of skin showing.
How does he dodge Sasuke smacking him with it or teleporting him to a burning area?

Have you not watched the series? Jiraiya kept going after Pain ripped his arm off, he just got wrecked but he would have kept going otherwise and barely noticed his arm was off. Raikage just stood there while burning then cut his own arm off so he could continue fighting and he willfully sacrificed his arm just to punch Sasuke.

Piccolo and Goku are the only examples of people who don't b*** out or do something stupid after being injured although Goku does he just happens to succeed because that's the story. Plus Piccolo regenerates he doesn't even have to care.
Goku couldn't take the pain of Raditz standing on his chest even though he still had the stamina to put him in the ultimate technique, the Full Nelson.


I've not even mentioned Genjutsu. Sasuke could have Goku doing whatever he wanted, wasting energy firing it off in the distance killing fake Sasuke's(like against Deidara) or just thinking he's fighting Sasuke when he's actually flying towards outer space and with that his death.
Goku has no defence against Genjutsu, at all. He wouldn't even know he has to defend against it.
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I remember having a discussion with the good sir Itachi once regarding the moon being in the Earth's atmosphere.

- The moon appears bigger in the manga than in real life.
- Boss Rabbit can breathe on the moon, so can his minions.

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Where's the debris coming from? The clear blue sky?

I support the moon being inside the atmosphere.
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Roshi destroying the moon is nonsense to to begin with he's only a mountain buster

Look at piccolo destroying sorry vaporizing the moon not a single piece is left

not too mention the speed of the attack lol

Edit:those debris came from the moon obviously master Roshi didn't vaporize it so that doesn't help your case much
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Nov 13 2014, 07:59 PM
Roshi destroying the moon is nonsense to to begin with he's only a mountain buster

Edit:those debris came from the moon obviously master Roshi didn't vaporize it so that doesn't help your case much
Prove it, please.

Wouldn't the debris stay in space if it was outside the atmosphere? No gravity and all?
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Look at the little debris on the floor next to Krillin; it's laying there. No tiny crater or anything. Couldn't have been that high up.
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Nov 13 2014, 08:02 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 07:59 PM
Roshi destroying the moon is nonsense to to begin with he's only a mountain buster

Edit:those debris came from the moon obviously master Roshi didn't vaporize it so that doesn't help your case much
Prove it, please.

Wouldn't the debris stay in space if it was outside the atmosphere? No gravity and all?
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Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some debris would get pulled Down to earth

Edit: why would there be a crater in the first place? Lol
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
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King Kakarot
Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 08:02 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 07:59 PM
Roshi destroying the moon is nonsense to to begin with he's only a mountain buster

Edit:those debris came from the moon obviously master Roshi didn't vaporize it so that doesn't help your case much
Prove it, please.

Wouldn't the debris stay in space if it was outside the atmosphere? No gravity and all?
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth

Edit: why would there be a crater in the first place? Lol
Assuming the moon is as far away from the Earth as it is in real life, how fast would it fall to the Earth? Fast enough to make some sort of crater or damage to the floor, right?
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Nov 13 2014, 08:06 PM
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Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol

Edit: Roshi blew the moon up why would there be craters all over the place he shattered it to pieces
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King Kakarot
Nov 13 2014, 08:07 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 08:06 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol
Speed has nothing to do with it.
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King Kakarot
Nov 13 2014, 08:07 PM
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Nov 13 2014, 08:05 PM
..........

Ever heard of earth's gravitational pull?

He would blast the moon at such velocities that the pieces would scatter and some devris would get pulled Down to earth
The moon is pretty far outside the Earth's gravitational pull though. If some would fall it would take AGES to get there. Many hours at least.
Not when you blast it at speeds that Roshi blew the moon up with lol

Edit: Roshi blew the moon up why would there be craters all over the place he shattered it to pieces
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You should be able to work it out yourself, champ
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