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Sasuke (EoN) vs Goku (Post 100G Training)
Topic Started: Nov 9 2014, 06:42 PM (4,917 Views)
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Who wins?

Goku is shown to be incredibly fast, although to what degree is largely vague
Goku's maximum KHH blast can destroy Earth
Saskue seems to be able to swap places with the air, effectively making him a teleporter (does expend his chakra)
Sasuke's strongest attack caused in EQ when colliding and canceling and equally powerful attack.

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Well to be fair swapping beams into faces is way out of character for Sasuke.

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wolffanghameha
Nov 10 2014, 02:34 AM
Well to be fair swapping beams into faces is way out of character for Sasuke.
Guess he'd just stand there talking instead lolololol

Worst comes to worst, Sasuke could look up to the sky and swap places with the Sun.
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wolffanghameha
Nov 10 2014, 02:34 AM
Well to be fair swapping beams into faces is way out of character for Sasuke.
I don't think so the only reason he couldn't have done that against Naruto is plot, Kishi gave him far too hax a power.
Plus he probably wanted to fight Naruto himself instead of resorting to a tactic like that.


Someone like Goku who radiates a lot of energy wouldn't be someone Sasuke would want to play around with.
Plus it's his best way to get away from a KHH, guess he might not do it the first time but after seeing how powerful the technique is most likely he'd do it if nothing else worked.

I doubt Goku would realize he was teleporting either would probably think Sasuke is just that fast so he wouldn't be prepared for being shoved in the path of his own technique.
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Goku would take this one easily. I mean, he could get from the place of his ship to Gohan using Kaio-ken before Recoome reacted. Oneshotted Recoome with ease, who tanked all of Vegeta's attacks.

Goku blitzes and oneshots Sasuke. There's no argument here.
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You didn't even make an argument and you said there's no argument. Don't you meant "I don't have an argument"?

Speed is the last point of importance here. Sasuke can predict Goku's movements AND has teleportation. He doesn't have to worry about Goku's slower speed.

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How durable is susanoo? If goku can break through it his punches then I think he can win. If not...idk how goku can win then
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Nov 11 2014, 05:15 PM
You didn't even make an argument and you said there's no argument. Don't you meant "I don't have an argument"?

Speed is the last point of importance here. Sasuke can predict Goku's movements AND has teleportation. He doesn't have to worry about Goku's slower speed.
I know I didn't make an argument, but what I'm talking about that there's no argument that Goku would kill Sasuke with absolutley no problem.

Teleportation wouldn't matter much here. Against someone his level, it didn't help him that much. Goku is way beyond his level, and his speed isn't slower by any means. Weakened 23rd Piccolo has blasts that could cover close to the radius of an island close to the size of a continent, and that Piccolo is an ant comparable to the Goku we're talking about.

Sasuke doesn't have enough DC and durability to survive a single blow from Goku.

Ssj3vegito96
Nov 11 2014, 06:00 PM
How durable is susanoo? If goku can break through it his punches then I think he can win. If not...idk how goku can win then
He could break it with a single blow no sweat.

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Nov 11 2014, 06:00 PM
How durable is susanoo? If goku can break through it his punches then I think he can win. If not...idk how goku can win then
I doubt he's stronger than Tsunade at this point who barely managed to crack Susanoo. Post zenkai he's probably stronger than Tsunade but weaker than sage mode Naruto. I also can't think of a single scenario where Goku could win.

@saqer I don't plan on going on circles again, so I'm going to address the only point that hasn't been addressed already in this thread multiple times. Sasuke most likely doesn't have the DC as you say to hurt Goku with blasts, but he can still use his sword to catch Goku off guard via teleportation.
Edited by Mihawk, Nov 11 2014, 08:06 PM.

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Will goku's blasts do anything if sasuke can absorb energy blasts? How does it work exactly? Is it a technique sasuke uses that absorbs energy blasts or is it his susanoo that absorbs them?
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Goku wins IMO, he is faster than Sasuke as far as i know, and i think he is also stronger, the guy has enough force to shake the earth just by powering up.
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Even if Piccolo's attack travelled that distance there's no real evidence to suggest energy beams get all that much faster.
How often do they ever even hit people really? They only hit people who are weakened or idiots. There's no proof for their speed linearly increasong with PL.

Plus again the island just isn't that big, it's no bigger than like Japan on their world map and the Earth has the same dimensions as real world Earth.


It's the Rinnegan technique that absorbs energy attacks and it's never been shown to have any stated limit like Shinra Tensei.

Also even if Goku has the physical strength to damage Susano'o which is extremely doubtful he couldnmt possibly break it all he'd only make a fist sized hole at best so physical attacks would be useless.
The whole reason Tsunade and Sakura hit so hard isn't physical strength, their lifting strength is but striking strength is because they focus all their chakra in to their fist, and with such massive pools of chakra that adds tons of weight to the punch.
Goku can't compare to that alone.

Not to mention Tsunade damaged the most basic version of Susano'o from a Madara who was easily half as strong as his living self.
Sasuke is far stronger than Madara and has the most powerful Susano'o possible, three levels above Madara's if you include the curse mark enhanced one.

If this was 100G Goku with his SSj3 physical strength then maybe he could do some damage but even then it's doubtful he could do anything devastating.
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Didn't Frieza blow up the island Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan where just by lifting his hand, or didn't Frieza leveled an entire area with a blink of his eye? What about the Z fighters power ups? Vegeta powers up and the earth shakes up entirely, Goku Kaioken powers up and nearby planets are reacting to his power.

And no there is enough evidence that beams travel faster throughout the series, Frieza's death beam was so much faster than SBC who moon busted in some seconds that none of the characters tracked it down at all, but Base Goku could.
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Nov 11 2014, 06:53 PM
Will goku's blasts do anything if sasuke can absorb energy blasts? How does it work exactly? Is it a technique sasuke uses that absorbs energy blasts or is it his susanoo that absorbs them?
Chakra type attacks are straight up stated to not work against Rinnegan users. Only physical attacks along with sage energy attacks would work. If for some reason Goku somehow becomes smart enough to do a Genki attack he'd probably break through Susanoo and hurt/kill Sasuke.

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Nov 11 2014, 07:48 PM
Didn't Frieza blow up the island Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan where just by lifting his hand, or didn't Frieza leveled an entire area with a blink of his eye? What about the Z fighters power ups? Vegeta powers up and the earth shakes up entirely, Goku Kaioken powers up and nearby planets are reacting to his power.

And no there is enough evidence that beams travel faster throughout the series, Frieza's death beam was so much faster than SBC who moon busted in some seconds that none of the characters tracked it down at all, but Base Goku could.
Yeah only some attacks seem to go notably fast. namely piercing ones.

When were other planets reacting to his power? It was just sense-able not like he shook them the same way SSj3 did if that was happening with SSj3 being so massively powerful in comparison why did the Earth still exist?

Energy attack speed varies with technique it doesn't just scale up, Goku's never used anything that's notably fast unless you count IT KHH which doesn't qualify as a technique as it's a combination of two.
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No,energy beams are faster with the more ki you have it doesn't matter on the persons technique

It's like saying start of Z piccolo is gonna have faster beams than a KHH from God Goku

Just not going to happen
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 11 2014, 11:07 PM.
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