Sasuke (EoN) vs Goku (Post 100G Training)

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Sasuke (EoN) vs Goku (Post 100G Training)
Tweet Topic Started: Nov 9 2014, 06:42 PM (4,918 Views)
Mihawk	Nov 9 2014, 06:42 PM Post #1
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Who wins? Goku is shown to be incredibly fast, although to what degree is largely vague Goku's maximum KHH blast can destroy Earth Saskue seems to be able to swap places with the air, effectively making him a teleporter (does expend his chakra) Sasuke's strongest attack caused in EQ when colliding and canceling and equally powerful attack.

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Mihawk	Nov 9 2014, 10:27 PM Post #16
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Nov 9 2014, 10:20 PM I just started watching Naruto with the news it has finished. Still though, I can't imagine any Naruto character has the raw power equivalent to even Max Power Roshi from the 21st Budokai. That being said, Sasuke has a lot tricks he can pull. The question here is whether Sasuke can work around Goku's god-like powers in comparison. I personally don't think he can, but then I'm biased, as I'm not particularly fond of Sasuke as character. He can't output the max power but that's irrelevant if it's gonna be absorbed/dodged anyway.



+ Pointer	Nov 9 2014, 10:29 PM Post #17
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Goku is just too much ....if sasuke can apply sharingan then maybe if not he ll be beaten in an instant you guys seems to forget the speed feats of DBZ Edited by Pointer, Nov 9 2014, 10:30 PM.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Nov 9 2014, 10:35 PM Post #18
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Steve Nov 9 2014, 10:26 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Nov 9 2014, 10:20 PM I just started watching Naruto with the news it has finished. Still though, I can't imagine any Naruto character has the raw power equivalent to even Max Power Roshi from the 21st Budokai. That being said, Sasuke has a lot tricks he can pull. The question here is whether Sasuke can work around Goku's god-like powers in comparison. I personally don't think he can, but then I'm biased, as I'm not particularly fond of Sasuke as character. Well wait until you get to the end What Naruto characters generally lack in destructive capacity they more than make up for with intelligence and hax powers. Sasuke should win this anyway. Goku would have no way to prepare for Sasuke switching them both round as a KHH flies towards him, meaning Goku gets obliterated or nearly by his own move. Sasuke's arsenal is just too big, he wouldn't even need Genjutsu here. And just what is he going to use to reflect an attack that is waaaaaaay out of his league? Furthermore, I'd like to know what he'd do if Goku simply decimated that battle field?
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Mihawk	Nov 9 2014, 10:37 PM Post #19
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Pointer Nov 9 2014, 10:29 PM Goku is just too much ....if sasuke can apply sharingan then maybe if not he ll be beaten in an instant you guys seems to forget the speed feats of DBZ I'd like to assume he'd sharingan. That's his main ability. ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Nov 9 2014, 10:35 PM Steve Nov 9 2014, 10:26 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Nov 9 2014, 10:20 PM I just started watching Naruto with the news it has finished. Still though, I can't imagine any Naruto character has the raw power equivalent to even Max Power Roshi from the 21st Budokai. That being said, Sasuke has a lot tricks he can pull. The question here is whether Sasuke can work around Goku's god-like powers in comparison. I personally don't think he can, but then I'm biased, as I'm not particularly fond of Sasuke as character. Well wait until you get to the end What Naruto characters generally lack in destructive capacity they more than make up for with intelligence and hax powers. Sasuke should win this anyway. Goku would have no way to prepare for Sasuke switching them both round as a KHH flies towards him, meaning Goku gets obliterated or nearly by his own move. Sasuke's arsenal is just too big, he wouldn't even need Genjutsu here. And just what is he going to use to reflect an attack that is waaaaaaay out of his league? Furthermore, I'd like to know what he'd do if Goku simply decimated that battle field? 1. He'd absorb it 2. He can swap places with objects 3. He'd absorb it/Goku never does that to start with Edited by Mihawk, Nov 9 2014, 10:39 PM.



~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 9 2014, 10:40 PM Post #20
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Is there proof that he can absorb Goku's attack? edit: how fast is itachi? Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 9 2014, 10:42 PM.



Mihawk	Nov 9 2014, 10:42 PM Post #21
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Anything that originates from the chakra tree will be absorbed, and seeing that ki = chakra it'll be absorbed. So yes there's proof.



~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 9 2014, 10:43 PM Post #22
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	wolffanghameha Nov 9 2014, 10:42 PM Anything that originates from the chakra tree will be absorbed, and seeing that ki = chakra it'll be absorbed. So yes there's proof. Ki never came from a chakra tree and even if it did that's the very definiton of a NLF



Mihawk	Nov 9 2014, 10:46 PM Post #23
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Talking in absolutes is not the no limits fallacy. "Water will always be water" - this would fall under your definition of the no limits fallacy. In this section chakra = ki.



~~King Kakarot~~	Nov 9 2014, 10:51 PM Post #24
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Quote: "Water will always be water" - this would fall under your definition of the no limits fallacy. That's not a NLF Your're saying that he can absorb any amount of energy that Goku can throw at him(even though it's far above his durability) without any proof he can absorb all that energy in the first place. Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 9 2014, 10:51 PM.



Mihawk	Nov 9 2014, 10:56 PM Post #25
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	King Kakarot Nov 9 2014, 10:51 PM Quote: "Water will always be water" - this would fall under your definition of the no limits fallacy. That's not a NLF Your're saying that he can absorb any amount of energy that Goku can throw at him(even though it's far above his durability) without any proof he can absorb all that energy in the first place. It's a "NLF" by your convoluted definition of it (and how it's sometimes thrown around in other forums). Itachi saying no one can beat him unless they have his eyes is not a no limits fallacy. It's a figure of speech. Besides there is evidence that the Rinnegan can absorb on levels way past your durability. Madara's Susanoo which is the core of his durability was wiped by dust release. Yet he said he could absorb it anyway. This implies that anything that's chakra will be absorbed by the Rinnengan regardless of it's strength.



+ Steve	Nov 9 2014, 11:53 PM Post #26
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	King Kakarot Nov 9 2014, 10:51 PM Quote: "Water will always be water" - this would fall under your definition of the no limits fallacy. That's not a NLF Your're saying that he can absorb any amount of energy that Goku can throw at him(even though it's far above his durability) without any proof he can absorb all that energy in the first place. Virtually every attack that has ever been absorbed by the Rinnegan has been absorbed because it's above the users durability, otherwise they wouldn't really bother would they? With no stated limit there's no way to say what level of attack would break through it, a universal one? No doubt but the actual limit could be anywhere before that. Even if Goku was faster he's not faster than Sasuke can see him with his eye powers and if he can see him he can teleport him. Doesn't really seem like teleporting makes them lose their momentum either so Goku flying at high speed would just be teleported to smash in to things behind where Sasuke was. Goku would definitely need to use Kaioken to take on the brawn of the...Ultimate Susano'o?(not sure what we should call it) which would wear him out quick. There's also Chibaku Tensei if Sasuke can make 9 before even absorbing the Bijuu chakra he should easily be able to make on level with the SO6P's that made the moon. So Goku either gets pulled in by that, given that a bigger one would be more powerful or leaves himself wide open should he figure destroying the centre breaks the technique. Or if he can just resist it given that he can fly then he can have a meteor thrown at him. Or a meteor thrown at Sasuke so Goku's like "wut" and then Sasuke switches himself and Goku just before he gets sandwiched by the meteor and the ground. Jesus Christ what an overpowered ability the whole switching thing is XD there are so many options to just mess with people.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Nov 10 2014, 01:47 AM Post #27
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I'd imagine Sasuke's ability to absorb energy has it's limits. No one has exactly tried absorbing anything close to even moon busting capabilities. Yeah, and Goku's fast enough to avoid his own Kamehameha if he were to be swapped. Once again though, Goku could just nuke the battle field so he could actually hit him.
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Mihawk	Nov 10 2014, 01:50 AM Post #28
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Destructive capability limits are just speculation without evidence. The only limits we're shown are related to adding natural energy (which would be genki here) into your attacks which prevent it from being absorbed. There's absolutely no hints towards there being an upper limit of chakra being absorbed. I mean you're free to believe it, you just wouldn't have much to stand on.



* Yu Narukami	Nov 10 2014, 02:21 AM Post #29
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	I'm assuming that you're taking away Sasuke's ability to pretty much steal Goku's soul? Unless that was an ability specific to Nagato. Well, Sasuke's able to; - Use Perfect Susano'o - Use Amaterasu - Use Genjutsu - Create all sorts of mechanical stuff - Summon a variety of creatures - Pull Goku towards him / Push him away - Absorb ki/chakra attacks - Swap places with anything in his sight - Ability to master all 5 natures Now, y'see, I'd be interested to see if Sasuke's teleportation technique works with the Outer Path. If he and his summons have shared vision, would he be able to switch with anything that his summon sees as well? That'd make it even more OP. As this is EoN Sasuke, he's had a further 13 years to train and hone his skills, so he's going to be muuuuuch stronger than he was in the War.



+ Steve	Nov 10 2014, 02:26 AM Post #30
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Nov 10 2014, 01:47 AM Yeah, and Goku's fast enough to avoid his own Kamehameha if he were to be swapped. Eh no not really, not at point blank range. If DB characters were that fast nobody would bother with energy blasts. Sasuke can just wait until it's practically touching his face then swap them around, he wouldn't be able to see Goku in that instance but he teleported behind Naruto when a big fireball was in front of his face so it doesn't seem like he needs a direct visual. Even if that didn't kill Goku he'd be severely wounded, enough that he could be one shotted by anything in Sasuke's arsenal really. Enton, Chidori, Black Chidori, Enton covered sword, Enton/Chidori combo, Epic Susano'o stab. Also I dub Sasuke's Susano'o Epic Susano'o, until there's an official name for it. EDIT wait actual EoN? I was taking it as Naruto vs Sasuke level. Hard to say about actual EoN Sasuke though I feel like his power probably didn't stay as high as it was, especially not with the Bijuu chakra gone. However if his arm is back with Senju DNA then he's sure to have got very powerful. Edited by Steve, Nov 10 2014, 02:28 AM.
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