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Is it illegal to not save people?
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Topic Started: Nov 9 2014, 12:38 AM (2,645 Views)
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Nov 11 2014, 03:00 AM
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- Nov 11 2014, 01:49 AM
But what makes people so special?
I'd save a baby or a child but there are 7 billion humans in he world why should every single one matter to you or me?
I don't see what's so wrong about generally not liking people as far as I'm concerned humans are more bad than good. Why should everyone be obligated to do the "right" thing when the "right" thing is merely the perspective of the masses? Flip the situation around in to a world where nobody cares about each other and then a person saves someone, they'd be "wrong" or "disgusting" then wouldn't they? So it's fairly meaningless to say what a person "should" do when their perspective in no way has to reflect yours.
I don't see why the law should make you save someone you have no responsibility for. Not here to save the world why should every living person matter to each other, why do we have to apparently regard all humans as better than everything else in the world? We're just animals not gods.
Since when does someone having a different perspective to you make them incorrect? Just because something is what most people would do, does that actually make it the thing any person should have to do? Morality is a fairly daft notion, everyone is different you can't force people to have the same views as everyone else and define them as a bad person for doing something you wouldn't.
Obviously there's a line when it comes down to being part of society though your sense of morality might make you think you should throw people off buildings but well that's downright stupid as nobody would put up with it.
So why "should" you save someone? Because the majority of people would try?
What kind of reason is that? You either try or you don't, want to or not. How can you say anyone's decision is the wrong thing to do just because it's not something you would do? It'd be nice if everyone would think about how not everyone is the same or has to feel the same as they do, before telling them how they "should" live their lives. I cant believe you're even arguing this! What makes one person so special out of 7 billion? That person has feelings. That person is going to feel a very painful death all because you wanted to save a replaceable object instead. An object with no feelings. That alone is all you need! And I don't care if you want to flip the situation regarding society in saying that "what if it was wrong to save somebody". We don't live in that society, and that isn't going to happen!
What if it was you? You're life is hanging in the balance and somebody decides "hey, to hell with this guy, my computer is in there!" Guess what? You're going to die! All because some selfish prick decided your life isn't worth saving over something you can just replace tomorrow. You have family that's going to REALLY miss you, friends that don't want you to die yet, you have the potential to make hundreds of people happy in your life. It's not one life that's affected, it's hundreds! And now you think a playstation is worth more than that??? That is disgusting! I hope I'm never trapped in a do or die situation with you because I'd be f***ed!!!! You wanna talk about the fact we're animal's and not gods, well if this situation were to happen, and you were the only one who could save a LIVING person but decide you don't wanna get your hands dirty then you've decided this person should die! That sounds like playing god to me! Either way, it's not about being a god! It's about being a good person! And yes, it is good to do everything you can to ensure a life. A life is worth more than an 80 dollar playstation!
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Nov 11 2014, 03:12 AM
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Steve, we aren't animals. We are more important than animals. Yes, this is true. Also, tell anyone outside this forum your opinion on this subject, and everyone would hate you. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you deserve to be beat on this one, this is really ridiculous.
Saving a computer over a person just makes you a bad person. None of your arguments can help here.
I don't think its illegal. If its a burning building, you can say you didn't want to risk your life. And ever seen those videos of people passing a stabbing victim? Nothing happened to them. You are just an a***** if you do.
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Nov 11 2014, 03:21 AM
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We are animals. Just very sophisticated animals. Our need to protect and save those in danger is one reason why we have survived for millions of years despite being puny as heck.
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Nov 11 2014, 06:42 AM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Edited by SSJSC, Nov 11 2014, 06:51 AM.
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Nov 11 2014, 10:31 AM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not. Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
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Nov 11 2014, 11:27 AM
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It genuinely saddens me to see people be so indifferent towards life. Things like valuing a replaceable piece of machinery over a living person, or that you would let someone die just because you don't like them is completely unfathomable to me. Why would you put someone through so much suffering for such a reason? Not just that person, but their friends and relatives who have permanently lost a loved one from their life.
I'm all for people having opinions but some opinions I just can't endorse in any way. Being so unconcerned with life is just ridiculous.
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Nov 11 2014, 11:31 AM
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Nov 11 2014, 01:06 PM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do. Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too.
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Nov 11 2014, 01:18 PM
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Well it's not all about you. Just because you don't agree with a person, doesn't mean they don't have a right to live. We can't all get along with each other and that's just fine. The moment we start picking and choosing who lives and who dies based on trivial concepts like butt hurtness is the moment we revert back to our medieval, savage past.
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Nov 11 2014, 01:27 PM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too. Right, we should let them die so they can't possibly be an a-hole to anyone else, great idea.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather put up with somebody being an a-hole than let them die. I don't care if they're thankful or not; I merely fulfilled an obligation that I had. If they're grateful, then that's fine, but it's not as if I'm only going to save them if they would be. My desire to be free from their behavior doesn't outweigh their right to life; it never will.
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Nov 11 2014, 02:03 PM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too.
Right, we should let them die so they can't possibly be an a-hole to anyone else, great idea. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put up with somebody being an a-hole than let them die. I don't care if they're thankful or not; I merely fulfilled an obligation that I had. If they're grateful, then that's fine, but it's not as if I'm only going to save them if they would be. My desire to be free from their behavior doesn't outweigh their right to life; it never will. In the end, everyone should be reserved the right as to whether or not they want to save someone. If it ever becomes illegal to not save someone, you count me as a potential individualwho is likely to join the protest group. Not everyone deserves respect. Respect is earned, not given. Show me that you deserve to have my friendship in the worse situation.
Edited by SSJSC, Nov 11 2014, 02:04 PM.
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Nov 11 2014, 02:08 PM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too.
Right, we should let them die so they can't possibly be an a-hole to anyone else, great idea. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put up with somebody being an a-hole than let them die. I don't care if they're thankful or not; I merely fulfilled an obligation that I had. If they're grateful, then that's fine, but it's not as if I'm only going to save them if they would be. My desire to be free from their behavior doesn't outweigh their right to life; it never will.
In the end, everyone should be reserved the right as to whether or not they want to save someone. If it ever becomes illegal to not save someone, you count me as a potential individualwho is likely to join the protest group. Not everyone deserves respect. Respect is earned, not given. Show me that you deserve to have my friendship in the worse situation. So, now you have to earn the right to be saved by someone? Let's say that someone is drowning. As you're walking near the lake, you see this. Do you stop and think to yourself; 'they haven't earned my respect, I'm just going to let them drown'? You're perfectly capable of saving them, but you don't due to , what, exactly? Them not proving themselves to be up to your standard of being a good person? If you're in a position to save someone but don't due to some petty personal opinion, then you're a bigger a-hole than that person could ever be.
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Nov 11 2014, 02:11 PM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too.
Right, we should let them die so they can't possibly be an a-hole to anyone else, great idea. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put up with somebody being an a-hole than let them die. I don't care if they're thankful or not; I merely fulfilled an obligation that I had. If they're grateful, then that's fine, but it's not as if I'm only going to save them if they would be. My desire to be free from their behavior doesn't outweigh their right to life; it never will.
In the end, everyone should be reserved the right as to whether or not they want to save someone. If it ever becomes illegal to not save someone, you count me as a potential individualwho is likely to join the protest group. Not everyone deserves respect. Respect is earned, not given. Show me that you deserve to have my friendship in the worse situation.
So, now you have to earn the right to be saved by someone? Let's say that someone is drowning. As you're walking near the lake, you see this. Do you stop and think to yourself; 'they haven't earned my respect, I'm just going to let them drown'? You're perfectly capable of saving them, but you don't due to , what, exactly? Them not proving themselves to be up to your standard of being a good person? If you're in a position to save someone but don't due to some petty personal opinion, then you're a bigger a-hole than that person could ever be. Fake people could just get very annoying. I don't know if I want to put up with them forever.
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Nov 11 2014, 02:16 PM
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too.
Right, we should let them die so they can't possibly be an a-hole to anyone else, great idea. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put up with somebody being an a-hole than let them die. I don't care if they're thankful or not; I merely fulfilled an obligation that I had. If they're grateful, then that's fine, but it's not as if I'm only going to save them if they would be. My desire to be free from their behavior doesn't outweigh their right to life; it never will.
In the end, everyone should be reserved the right as to whether or not they want to save someone. If it ever becomes illegal to not save someone, you count me as a potential individualwho is likely to join the protest group. Not everyone deserves respect. Respect is earned, not given. Show me that you deserve to have my friendship in the worse situation.
So, now you have to earn the right to be saved by someone? Let's say that someone is drowning. As you're walking near the lake, you see this. Do you stop and think to yourself; 'they haven't earned my respect, I'm just going to let them drown'? You're perfectly capable of saving them, but you don't due to , what, exactly? Them not proving themselves to be up to your standard of being a good person? If you're in a position to save someone but don't due to some petty personal opinion, then you're a bigger a-hole than that person could ever be.
Fake people could just get very annoying. I don't know if I want to put up with them forever. Well, it doesn't matter what you want to put up with. You're not the arbiter when it comes to human life. Your annoyance doesn't somehow give you the right to just let someone die when you're in a position to save them. Are you telling me that if you were dying and saw somebody who was perfectly capable of saving you but decided not to, you'd respect their right to do that and essentially end your life? Such negligence is unacceptable. Saving a person who's drowning wouldn't somehow impact your life negatively on a massive scale, so you should do it.
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Honestly, this thread is a bit hilarious. I get good reviews from other people as a person during face to face communications. But if I see someone I don't like in a burning building, I wouldn't save them not because I'm a bad guy, but because I don't want a bunch of a-holes in my life. So you better pray that I do like you regardless if you're an a-hole or not.
Quite ironic, because doing that would make you an a-hole. You don't get to decide whether a person's life has worth or not; it inherently does. What exactly is the criteria for letting this happen anyway? "He brags a lot and it's really annoying, I'll just let him die." This is a person's life we're talking about, and you thinking that he's an a-hole isn't any kind of justification for what you'd do.
Save him/her, and then the person isn't thankful and repeats re-offending you again, sounds like a great idea too.
Right, we should let them die so they can't possibly be an a-hole to anyone else, great idea. I don't know about you, but I'd rather put up with somebody being an a-hole than let them die. I don't care if they're thankful or not; I merely fulfilled an obligation that I had. If they're grateful, then that's fine, but it's not as if I'm only going to save them if they would be. My desire to be free from their behavior doesn't outweigh their right to life; it never will.
In the end, everyone should be reserved the right as to whether or not they want to save someone. If it ever becomes illegal to not save someone, you count me as a potential individualwho is likely to join the protest group. Not everyone deserves respect. Respect is earned, not given. Show me that you deserve to have my friendship in the worse situation.
So, now you have to earn the right to be saved by someone? Let's say that someone is drowning. As you're walking near the lake, you see this. Do you stop and think to yourself; 'they haven't earned my respect, I'm just going to let them drown'? You're perfectly capable of saving them, but you don't due to , what, exactly? Them not proving themselves to be up to your standard of being a good person? If you're in a position to save someone but don't due to some petty personal opinion, then you're a bigger a-hole than that person could ever be.
Fake people could just get very annoying. I don't know if I want to put up with them forever.
Well, it doesn't matter what you want to put up with. You're not the arbiter when it comes to human life. Your annoyance doesn't somehow give you the right to just let someone die when you're in a position to save them. Are you telling me that if you were dying and saw somebody who was perfectly capable of saving you but decided not to, you'd respect their right to do that and essentially end your life? Such negligence is unacceptable. Saving a person who's drowning wouldn't somehow impact your life negatively on a massive scale, so you should do it. Okay, maybe if the person begs me I might.
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