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Might Gai (NARUTO SPOILERS) vs...
Topic Started: Nov 1 2014, 12:12 AM (7,406 Views)
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

So Gai in the 8th Gate vs...who can beat him?


Firstly without going to obvious extremes like the Guren Lagan machines who would be on an almost equal level with Gai and be able to beat him outside of Naruto?

He totally went Super Saiyan with that 100x boost so what level of power from other series would be needed to take him out in your opinion?


I'm not sure what tier but definitely DBZ level, especially going by how ridiculously deep a hole his first punch put Madara down.
Actually not even a punch just the air pressure from him punching making actual contact would be insanity.


Secondly who could perhaps not beat him but survive long enough for him to die due to the nature of the technique? Discounting people who regenerate.
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Nov 3 2014, 12:49 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:45 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:39 AM
Dr. Zoidberg
Nov 3 2014, 12:37 AM
Alright, let me throw this one at you.

Say authors don't care about environmental damage... What makes you think they care about non-sense phrases like "planet durability"?
They make quite a bit of segments of saying who can destroy the planet and actually showing someone surviving a planet exploding

Edit: still going on with what happened in BOG?

Regardless goku never made contact with his planet and no matter how much you w*** Gai to fanfiction lvls he's not a buu saga threat at all lmao

Ah, I forgot when Goku made a huge tiger purely out of air pressure by moving his hands and launched it at Freeza, where it exploded and sent shockwaves across a huge island. Man, Goku's physical strength is amazing.
I remember when Gai ripped someone with planet +durability apart with punches man that was some dream
Keep throwing 'planet level durability' around, it doesn't change anything. The Z fighters can contain their ki attacks after they're launched, they can't control the air pressure and shockwaves that are caused by their punches.
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Here's my opinion at the moment.

Environmental damage from punches, kicks, and speed is in dbz. This entire discussion is not pointless. Bringing up environmental damage from punches and kicks is pointless because it's inconsistent. Another example of this is the flash. The flash who is in the same universe as superman, whose environmental damage is relevant, has star level punches. But with flash, it doesn't matter. So it's not consistent. But is anyone denying the flash has star level punches? No.
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Nov 3 2014, 12:51 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:49 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:45 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:39 AM
Dr. Zoidberg
Nov 3 2014, 12:37 AM
Alright, let me throw this one at you.

Say authors don't care about environmental damage... What makes you think they care about non-sense phrases like "planet durability"?
They make quite a bit of segments of saying who can destroy the planet and actually showing someone surviving a planet exploding

Edit: still going on with what happened in BOG?

Regardless goku never made contact with his planet and no matter how much you w*** Gai to fanfiction lvls he's not a buu saga threat at all lmao

Ah, I forgot when Goku made a huge tiger purely out of air pressure by moving his hands and launched it at Freeza, where it exploded and sent shockwaves across a huge island. Man, Goku's physical strength is amazing.
I remember when Gai ripped someone with planet +durability apart with punches man that was some dream
Keep throwing 'planet level durability' around, it doesn't change anything. The Z fighters can contain their ki attacks after they're launched, they can't control the air pressure and shockwaves that are caused by their punches.
Keep dreaming that Gai can stand up to buu saga characters

he would break his fists on the likes of base Freeza

Gai isn't worth a threat to anyone worth a damn in db


Edit:@ssj3 took the words out my mouth

The flash has star lvl punches but you won't see this guy making craters in his fight
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 3 2014, 12:57 AM.
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Nov 3 2014, 12:51 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:49 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:39 AM
Dr. Zoidberg
Nov 3 2014, 12:37 AM
Alright, let me throw this one at you.

Say authors don't care about environmental damage... What makes you think they care about non-sense phrases like "planet durability"?
They make quite a bit of segments of saying who can destroy the planet and actually showing someone surviving a planet exploding

Edit: still going on with what happened in BOG?

Regardless goku never made contact with his planet and no matter how much you w*** Gai to fanfiction lvls he's not a buu saga threat at all lmao

Ah, I forgot when Goku made a huge tiger purely out of air pressure by moving his hands and launched it at Freeza, where it exploded and sent shockwaves across a huge island. Man, Goku's physical strength is amazing.
I remember when Gai ripped someone with planet +durability apart with punches man that was some dream
Keep throwing 'planet level durability' around, it doesn't change anything. The Z fighters can contain their ki attacks after they're launched, they can't control the air pressure and shockwaves that are caused by their punches.
Keep dreaming that Gai can stand up to buu saga characters

he would break his fists on the likes of base Freeza

Gai isn't worth a threat to anyone worth a damn in db
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Nov 3 2014, 12:55 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:49 AM
Naked Snake
Nov 3 2014, 12:45 AM
King Kakarot
Nov 3 2014, 12:39 AM
Dr. Zoidberg
Nov 3 2014, 12:37 AM
Alright, let me throw this one at you.

Say authors don't care about environmental damage... What makes you think they care about non-sense phrases like "planet durability"?
They make quite a bit of segments of saying who can destroy the planet and actually showing someone surviving a planet exploding

Edit: still going on with what happened in BOG?

Regardless goku never made contact with his planet and no matter how much you w*** Gai to fanfiction lvls he's not a buu saga threat at all lmao

Ah, I forgot when Goku made a huge tiger purely out of air pressure by moving his hands and launched it at Freeza, where it exploded and sent shockwaves across a huge island. Man, Goku's physical strength is amazing.
I remember when Gai ripped someone with planet +durability apart with punches man that was some dream
Keep throwing 'planet level durability' around, it doesn't change anything. The Z fighters can contain their ki attacks after they're launched, they can't control the air pressure and shockwaves that are caused by their punches.
Keep dreaming that Gai can stand up to buu saga characters

he would break his fists on the likes of base Freeza

Gai isn't worth a threat to anyone worth a damn in db
Rofl, Gai is Star-Level+ when it comes to destructive power
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Gai is star lvl in destructive ability rofl

That must be a crazy fanfiction where can I read it at?
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 3 2014, 12:59 AM.
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Nov 3 2014, 12:58 AM
Gai is star lvl in destructive ability rofl

That must be a crazy fanfiction where can I read it at
Lol, this kid. Goku w***ing won't get you anywhere, tho. Gai is Star-level+ with his punches
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Let me ask you this, KK... How much Naruto have you read? From reading your posts, I get the feeling you haven't read... enough?
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Seriously what story is this called on fanfiction..com?

I would like to read it

How am I a Goku w***er when I never mentioned him?

You're an obvious Gai w***er with star lvl destructive force LMFAO

He gets destroyed by some fodder in db lol

But you can keep dreaming for all I care I enjoy some jokes now and then

"Star lvl Gai" lol

@zoid don't need to read it to spot Narutards and there w***

When every other vs forum on the net knows Gai isn't s*** to db characters I'm gonna side with them

"Star lvl Gai"
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Nov 3 2014, 12:58 AM
Gai is star lvl in destructive ability rofl

That must be a crazy fanfiction where can I read it at?
The part that makes me roll of the floor laughing is the fact that you don't realise he was being sarcastic and imitating you.

That is exactly what you sound like, entirely baseless with no evidence and fanfiction statements.

Gai is obviously not star+ level, arguably, the guy couldn't even crack a planet, he could maybe take out half.

But the point is his physical strength exceeds that of ANY DBZ character.

Listen to yourself, now answer me this: In the entire Dragon Ball series, when did a character ever destroy a planet with a physical attack.

That's right, they didn't. Ever. It was always an energy blast or something similar. That involves chemistry and particle physics. Those blasts do so much damage because the user can trigger a reaction in the energy and essentially split the atoms, causing the explosion, and can then multiple those atoms to make the blast expand. That is not physical ability, that is ki.

Physically, SSj Goku would probably wind Gai with a punch. He's not removing half the guy's torso like Gai did to Madara.

Once again, Gai - actual muscle power while DBZ - entirely energy based.

And once again Zoidberg makes a good point. It sounds like if you read Naruto at all you read the first 10 chapters and called it a day, back at the point where even using the strongest jutsu in the series at that time a character could maybe make a hole in a boulder.

Gai does that x100 if not more without any jutsu at all. Just sheer. Muscular. Power.
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Nov 3 2014, 01:03 AM
@zoid don't need to read it to spot Narutards and there w***

When every other vs forum on the net knows Gai isn't s*** to db characters I'm gonna side with them

"Star lvl Gai"
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You're telling me you haven't read it?

So, how can we take your opinions seriously when you have no idea what you're talking about?
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Nov 3 2014, 12:54 AM
Here's my opinion at the moment.

Environmental damage from punches, kicks, and speed is in dbz. This entire discussion is not pointless. Bringing up environmental damage from punches and kicks is pointless because it's inconsistent. Another example of this is the flash. The flash who is in the same universe as superman, whose environmental damage is relevant, has star level punches. But with flash, it doesn't matter. So it's not consistent. But is anyone denying the flash has star level punches? No.
But saying someone is stronger than another based on an inconsistent feat is actually pointless. Like if you are a worker for train company A which sometimes goes 80 km/h and other time goes at 30 km/h. You're telling everyone your train company goes at 80 km/h when going into discussions. It's true, but it's dishonest.

In this case of DBZ the majority of punches and kicks aren't doing anything. If Flash was inconsistent a lot then the people who argued for him would be dishonest too. Just because a lot of people do it doesn't make it right. Plus honestly I feel like Flash only has one or two inconsistent feats while the overwhelming majority of DBZ ones are on the lower end.

In this case we have an option that makes sense and works across most manga/video games. It's not like it's a cop out or anything. It's a real answer that gets rid of tons of inconsistencies. You just don't like it because it makes DBZ on the weaker side.

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Nov 3 2014, 01:07 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 12:58 AM
Gai is star lvl in destructive ability rofl

That must be a crazy fanfiction where can I read it at?
The part that makes me roll of the floor laughing is the fact that you don't realise he was being sarcastic and imitating you.

That is exactly what you sound like, entirely baseless with no evidence and fanfiction statements.

Gai is obviously not star+ level, arguably, the guy couldn't even crack a planet, he could maybe take out half.

But the point is his physical strength exceeds that of ANY DBZ character.

Listen to yourself, now answer me this: In the entire Dragon Ball series, when did a character ever destroy a planet with a physical attack.

That's right, they didn't. Ever. It was always an energy blast or something similar. That involves chemistry and particle physics. Those blasts do so much damage because the user can trigger a reaction in the energy and essentially split the atoms, causing the explosion, and can then multiple those atoms to make the blast expand. That is not physical ability, that is ki.

Physically, SSj Goku would probably wind Gai with a punch. He's not removing half the guy's torso like Gai did to Madara.

Once again, Gai - actual muscle power while DBZ - entirely energy based.

And once again Zoidberg makes a good point. It sounds like if you read Naruto at all you read the first 10 chapters and called it a day, back at the point where even using the strongest jutsu in the series at that time a character could maybe make a hole in a boulder.

Gai does that x100 if not more without any jutsu at all. Just sheer. Muscular. Power.
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Regardless Gai gets 1 shotted by anyone worth a damn but please keep w***ing
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Nov 3 2014, 01:00 AM
Let me ask you this, KK... How much Naruto have you read? From reading your posts, I get the feeling you haven't read... enough?
You mean any.


Hey guys, have you ever thought that maybe surviving a planet exploding might not be that impressive?

Frieza didn't tank a blast that would blow up a planet he was wrecked by being on the edge of a planet where the edge of the blast got him and pushed him away more than anything, he wasn't in the core of the planet he didn't take the full on explosion.
It's just a big explosion not like some concentrated Ki attack that destroys everything, you saw all the rubble floating around what happened was the planet split open it didn't disintegrate due to a Ki attack's immense power.
Frieza was basically just blown away,


AND have you never considered that Frieza ONLY SURVIVED because he could breathe in space and somehow survive with only like 30% of his body still there, even some of his head was gone.


One of you tell me that Goku, clearly more powerful than Frieza at the time would have survived that, you know damn well that he wouldn't he'd have got blown out in to space and suffocated.
Frieza can't tank an attack that would destroy a planet he can just tank space and an explosion strong enough to destroy some rock and push it away, the planet didn't even have a core.

I mean seriously do you think Frieza took on the whole explosion? It wasn't a beam, it was an explosion, they kind of fire their energy in all directions and get weaker extremely quick and most notably the shockwave is far faster than the explosion.

Frieza got blown away and damaged by the edge of an explosion which similar to the Sun's heat is much much weaker than the centre.

Have a think about that before saying everyone above Frieza's PL is "planet level durability" because that's just nonsense, Frieza survived because his body makes no sense.
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Nov 3 2014, 01:11 AM
Regardless Gai gets 1 shotted by anyone worth a damn but please keep w***ing
I urge you to behave like a normal person. You have no case here, with no previous knowledge of Naruto. Whatever you spew out will not be taken seriously.
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