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Might Gai (NARUTO SPOILERS) vs...
Topic Started: Nov 1 2014, 12:12 AM (7,405 Views)
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

So Gai in the 8th Gate vs...who can beat him?


Firstly without going to obvious extremes like the Guren Lagan machines who would be on an almost equal level with Gai and be able to beat him outside of Naruto?

He totally went Super Saiyan with that 100x boost so what level of power from other series would be needed to take him out in your opinion?


I'm not sure what tier but definitely DBZ level, especially going by how ridiculously deep a hole his first punch put Madara down.
Actually not even a punch just the air pressure from him punching making actual contact would be insanity.


Secondly who could perhaps not beat him but survive long enough for him to die due to the nature of the technique? Discounting people who regenerate.
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>ignoring thier blasts is condensed energy that can destroy planets and freeza took those head on
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 3 2014, 01:14 AM.
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Izanagi!

It's as if every single post in this topic has been ignored.

Hmm.
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*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
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Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
Maybe the flash doesn't have star lvl punches. Who's to judge?
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King Kakarot
Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
Well, that's the Flash, and unless he exists in the Z-verse somewhere, bringing him up is pointless.
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Nov 3 2014, 01:19 AM
King Kakarot
Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
Maybe the flash doesn't have star lvl punches. Who's to judge?
Lol

Yet he ko's people as durable as post crisis supes

Now supes doesn't have star lvl durability?


@snake: good excuse still doesn't change the fact the flash doesn't make craters with his punches
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 3 2014, 01:21 AM.
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Nov 3 2014, 01:20 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 01:19 AM
King Kakarot
Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
Maybe the flash doesn't have star lvl punches. Who's to judge?
Lol

Yet he ko's people as durable as post crisis supes

Now supes doesn't have star lvl durability?
Why should I believe you? You don't even read Naruto and you completely wrote off Gai as star lvl character.
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Well, they're comic book characters. We're talking about DBZ and Naruto, not anything else.
Edited by Yu Narukami, Nov 3 2014, 01:22 AM.
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The only one getting off to manga characters is you now Kakarot. You are clearly into hardcore Dragon Ballnography and haven't quite finished off yet.

We can actually acknowledge both sides of the argument, you have literally nothing of value to contribute to this thread because all you do is talk about fanfiction, which is bitterly ironic because most of the phrases and "evidence" you use never actually happened or was not in the manga.

Gai has proven speed. He distorted reality. Gai has proven strength, he removed almost half of someone's body with one single attack. Gai has proven durability, he survived a fight with someone who can incinerate people just by touching them, it's actually quite arguable that if Kishimoto hadn't given Madara so much plot armour that Gai would have won against an immortal.

But Dragon Ball is inconsistent, and is only beefed up by it's incredibly stubborn fans who watched the show before and thought it was amazing and refuse to believe anything could rival the power of it's characters.

Do you want to talk Saint Seiya? Dr Slump? There are characters in the first one that could wipe star systems out of existence with one move, the main character of the second could crack the planet with one finger.

We all know Dragon Ball has a lot of powerful characters, but they are not invincible. I'm willing to admit Gai is quite possibly the only Naruto character that can fight after Goku's growth spurt, but he can definitely fight quite well. Sure he'd lose to some, but the majority of the time-even against Cell juniors-Gai has much higher power, and is a better fighter.

You continue to argue simply because you refuse to believe Dragon Ball could be beaten, but if you took this to a Saint Seiya or Dr. Slump forum, most of the Dragon Ball cast would be put down by everyone there. Dragon Ball can lose, it's possible, and just you don't like it doesn't mean it can't be done by Gai. I'm not even saying Gai could survive against Beerus, because that's admittedly beyond his level, Beerus breaks Gai easily because Beerus really does have actual superhuman physical power.

Everyone else in Dragon Ball just uses ki to amplify their impact.

Perhaps this involves too much science and logic for you to pay attention, but actual 100% muscle power vastly overpowers a little extra push from some ki.
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Nov 3 2014, 01:21 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 01:20 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 01:19 AM
King Kakarot
Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
Maybe the flash doesn't have star lvl punches. Who's to judge?
Lol

Yet he ko's people as durable as post crisis supes

Now supes doesn't have star lvl durability?
Why should I believe you? You don't even read Naruto and you completely wrote off Gai as star lvl character.
Becuase he's not lol

I didn't know he was being sarcastic so thats why I found it hilarious

Regardless back to the point the flash has star lvl punches but doesn't leave craters everywhere

Downplaying things using environmental damage is hilarious

Edit: " Gai has proven strength, he removed almost half of someone's body with one single attack"

Oh boy he's really strong lol
Edited by King Kakarot, Nov 3 2014, 01:28 AM.
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Nov 3 2014, 01:24 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 01:20 AM
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Nov 3 2014, 01:19 AM
King Kakarot
Nov 3 2014, 01:18 AM
*Yawn*

Anyone wants to refute the point that flash has star lvl punches yet he doesn't leave craters when he misses his punches?

Let me guess Flash doesn't have star lvl punches now?
Maybe the flash doesn't have star lvl punches. Who's to judge?
Lol

Yet he ko's people as durable as post crisis supes

Now supes doesn't have star lvl durability?
Why should I believe you? You don't even read Naruto and you completely wrote off Gai as star lvl character.
Becuase he's not lol

I didn't know he was being sarcastic so thats why I found it hilarious

Regardless back to the point the flash has star lvl punches but doesn't leave craters everywhere

Downplaying things using environmental damage is hilarious
Goku punches through Kaio's planet. No indication of him holding back or somehow containing the impact of the punch.

Gai punches a tunnel about half a mile into the ground.

Goku flies around without affecting space at all

Gai literally distorts space itself with his speed

If you've got any sense of logic at all, there's one conclusion you can draw from this
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Nobody read my post earlier so here it is again.
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Here's my opinion at the moment.

Environmental damage from punches, kicks, and speed is in dbz. This entire discussion is not pointless. Bringing up environmental damage from punches and kicks is pointless because it's inconsistent. Another example of this is the flash. The flash who is in the same universe as superman, whose environmental damage is relevant, has star level punches which is stated btw. But with flash, it doesn't matter. So it's not consistent. But is anyone denying the flash has star level punches? No.
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>Goku's shockwave destroyed king kai's planet

Question what do you think takes more energy to do making a tunnel a mile long or ripping apart something that is mire durable than an entire planet?


The answer is quite obvious

@ssj3

They're going to cry and say it's comic
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Nov 3 2014, 01:30 AM
Nobody read my post earlier so here it is again.
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Here's my opinion at the moment.

Environmental damage from punches, kicks, and speed is in dbz. This entire discussion is not pointless. Bringing up environmental damage from punches and kicks is pointless because it's inconsistent. Another example of this is the flash. The flash who is in the same universe as superman, whose environmental damage is relevant, has star level punches which is stated btw. But with flash, it doesn't matter. So it's not consistent. But is anyone denying the flash has star level punches? No.
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But saying someone is stronger than another based on an inconsistent feat is actually pointless. Like if you are a worker for train company A which sometimes goes 80 km/h and other time goes at 30 km/h. You're telling everyone your train company goes at 80 km/h when going into discussions. It's true, but it's dishonest.

In this case of DBZ the majority of punches and kicks aren't doing anything. If Flash was inconsistent a lot then the people who argued for him would be dishonest too. Just because a lot of people do it doesn't make it right. Plus honestly I feel like Flash only has one or two inconsistent feats while the overwhelming majority of DBZ ones are on the lower end.

In this case we have an option that makes sense and works across most manga/video games. It's not like it's a cop out or anything. It's a real answer that gets rid of tons of inconsistencies. You just don't like it because it makes DBZ on the weaker side.

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Nov 3 2014, 01:31 AM
The answer is quite obvious
The answer is: You are ignoring what other people are saying. You read only what you want to read and you're being condescending about it too. You're not a winner here, son.
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