What if hypothetical buu arc gogeta is equal to vegito

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What if hypothetical buu arc gogeta is equal to vegito
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+ Pyrus	Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Post #31
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Booboo ain't wrong unless he's wrong.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:20 PM Post #32
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito True, but we can understand this was pure arrogance. On the other hand Buuhan has seen a fusion made before and even fought against it, his judgement was never contractid and was basing off the results at how Gotenks fusion work out, not to mention the placement makes sense, SSJ3 Gogeta is approximately 2x Gotenks. Again he could just "predict" the hypothetical gogeta's power by witnessing the gains of the kids .... The fusion does not work the same way for everybody it is not like an additional multiplier. The kids prove you wrong, as they gained only a little individually yet Gotenks made enormous gains Edited by Pointer, Oct 29 2014, 08:21 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:23 PM Post #33
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:20 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito True, but we can understand this was pure arrogance. On the other hand Buuhan has seen a fusion made before and even fought against it, his judgement was never contractid and was basing off the results at how Gotenks fusion work out, not to mention the placement makes sense, SSJ3 Gogeta is approximately 2x Gotenks. Again he could just "predict" the hypothetical gogeta's power by witnessing the gains of the kids .... The fusion does not work the same way for everybody it is not like an additional multiplier. The kids prove you wrong, as they gained only a little individually yet Gotenks made enormous gains Although true, Buuhan can still estimate the possible strengh of Gogeta, and since there is not statement or whatever that condtractids that, then why not just place Gogeta there?
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


EMIYA	Oct 29 2014, 08:25 PM Post #34
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Let me throw that exact same thing out then. How could Goku know that a fusion of himself and Vegeta defeat Super Boo? Because he's obviously basing it upon the aspects of fusion that has been taught to him. Edited by EMIYA, Oct 29 2014, 08:26 PM.



+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:26 PM Post #35
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:23 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:20 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito True, but we can understand this was pure arrogance. On the other hand Buuhan has seen a fusion made before and even fought against it, his judgement was never contractid and was basing off the results at how Gotenks fusion work out, not to mention the placement makes sense, SSJ3 Gogeta is approximately 2x Gotenks. Again he could just "predict" the hypothetical gogeta's power by witnessing the gains of the kids .... The fusion does not work the same way for everybody it is not like an additional multiplier. The kids prove you wrong, as they gained only a little individually yet Gotenks made enormous gains Although true, Buuhan can still estimate the possible strengh of Gogeta, and since there is not statement or whatever that condtractids that, then why not just place Gogeta there? How? Not even Piccolo the gratest KI detector in the universe could predict the Power of post timeskip Gotenks



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:29 PM Post #36
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:26 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:23 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:20 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito True, but we can understand this was pure arrogance. On the other hand Buuhan has seen a fusion made before and even fought against it, his judgement was never contractid and was basing off the results at how Gotenks fusion work out, not to mention the placement makes sense, SSJ3 Gogeta is approximately 2x Gotenks. Again he could just "predict" the hypothetical gogeta's power by witnessing the gains of the kids .... The fusion does not work the same way for everybody it is not like an additional multiplier. The kids prove you wrong, as they gained only a little individually yet Gotenks made enormous gains Although true, Buuhan can still estimate the possible strengh of Gogeta, and since there is not statement or whatever that condtractids that, then why not just place Gogeta there? How? Not even Piccolo the gratest KI detector in the universe could predict the Power of post timeskip Gotenks That was because he never knew how much Gotenks will gain in the chamber though.
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:31 PM Post #37
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:29 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:26 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:23 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:20 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito True, but we can understand this was pure arrogance. On the other hand Buuhan has seen a fusion made before and even fought against it, his judgement was never contractid and was basing off the results at how Gotenks fusion work out, not to mention the placement makes sense, SSJ3 Gogeta is approximately 2x Gotenks. Again he could just "predict" the hypothetical gogeta's power by witnessing the gains of the kids .... The fusion does not work the same way for everybody it is not like an additional multiplier. The kids prove you wrong, as they gained only a little individually yet Gotenks made enormous gains Although true, Buuhan can still estimate the possible strengh of Gogeta, and since there is not statement or whatever that condtractids that, then why not just place Gogeta there? How? Not even Piccolo the gratest KI detector in the universe could predict the Power of post timeskip Gotenks That was because he never knew how much Gotenks will gain in the chamber though. He could sense the kids gain individually why didnt he applied the mighty fusion formula to calculate the power of post rosat gotenks?



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:33 PM Post #38
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Because the fusion really is unpredictable,, and cannot be dudged when making gains, Buuhan saw everything of Gotenks fusion, he sensed the kids individual power, saw the end result and then estimates that Goku and Vegeta would not be strong enough. To be honest though if there is nothing going against Buuhan's statement, why just try to go against it in the first place?
	"Its only when we're pushed to our limits that we can truly shine!" Majin Vegeta


+ Pyrus	Oct 29 2014, 08:35 PM Post #39
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Or the kids were suppressed/relaxed.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:47 PM Post #40
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:33 PM Because the fusion really is unpredictable,, and cannot be dudged when making gains, Buuhan saw everything of Gotenks fusion, he sensed the kids individual power, saw the end result and then estimates that Goku and Vegeta would not be strong enough. To be honest though if there is nothing going against Buuhan's statement, why just try to go against it in the first place? You have said it yourself " the fusion really is unpredictable," How could Buuhan estimate the fusion of Goku and Vegeta? Quote: Or the kids were suppressed/relaxed. they were not ...in order to do the fusion the two participants have to be equal in strength Edited by Pointer, Oct 29 2014, 08:48 PM.



* Yu Narukami	Oct 29 2014, 08:49 PM Post #41
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Boohan, knowing how fusion works due to having the knowledge of Gotenks, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo, makes a statement. Goku, who's also knowledgeable about fusion, who doesn't contest it. Boohan thought he could beat Vegetto, but he was proven wrong. He wasn't shown any proof that he was wrong regarding Gogeta. Edited by Yu Narukami, Oct 29 2014, 08:50 PM.



+ Pyrus	Oct 29 2014, 08:53 PM Post #42
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:47 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:33 PM Because the fusion really is unpredictable,, and cannot be dudged when making gains, Buuhan saw everything of Gotenks fusion, he sensed the kids individual power, saw the end result and then estimates that Goku and Vegeta would not be strong enough. To be honest though if there is nothing going against Buuhan's statement, why just try to go against it in the first place? You have said it yourself " the fusion really is unpredictable," How could Buuhan estimate the fusion of Goku and Vegeta? Quote: Or the kids were suppressed/relaxed. they were not ...in order to do the fusion the two participants have to be equal in strength Trunks needed to suppress to fuse with Goten. Bam.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 09:03 PM Post #43
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Pyrus Oct 29 2014, 08:53 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:47 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:33 PM Because the fusion really is unpredictable,, and cannot be dudged when making gains, Buuhan saw everything of Gotenks fusion, he sensed the kids individual power, saw the end result and then estimates that Goku and Vegeta would not be strong enough. To be honest though if there is nothing going against Buuhan's statement, why just try to go against it in the first place? You have said it yourself " the fusion really is unpredictable," How could Buuhan estimate the fusion of Goku and Vegeta? Quote: Or the kids were suppressed/relaxed. they were not ...in order to do the fusion the two participants have to be equal in strength Trunks needed to suppress to fuse with Goten. Bam. which also measn Goten had to use his full power Bamm



+ Pyrus	Oct 29 2014, 09:36 PM Post #44
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I was showing how it differed, not disproving my own point. I just think we should ignore what every character says and only look at the pictures. It'd be easier for everyone to come to an agreement.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 11:40 PM Post #45
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Pyrus Oct 29 2014, 09:36 PM I was showing how it differed, not disproving my own point. I just think we should ignore what every character says and only look at the pictures. It'd be easier for everyone to come to an agreement. Then ignore Old kai's comment about potara also...and Buuhan's comment about Gogeta will not be enough



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