What if hypothetical buu arc gogeta is equal to vegito

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What if hypothetical buu arc gogeta is equal to vegito
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 03:38 PM Post #16
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Super Saiyan Oct 29 2014, 02:54 PM TheACE Oct 29 2014, 02:45 PM Frankly I don't see why Gogeta and Vegetto fundamentally wouldn't be the same. It's the same components, so it likely should've the same product. Because it's stated that one is weaker than the other. No, It is just the effectiveness what it was stated to be better It was never ever said anything about the power I mean who knows even the rival boost might be existing in gogeta's case I think that elder kai quote was referring to the potara itself as a better method to merge . It has nothing to do with the outcome. Edited by Pointer, Oct 29 2014, 03:40 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Post #17
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Post #18
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Edited by Pointer, Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM.



Event Horizon	Oct 29 2014, 03:55 PM Post #19
エンペラー Posts: -894,312 Group: Elite Four Member #7,966 Joined: July 18, 2012	Define "effective".



+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 04:01 PM Post #20
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Cell Oct 29 2014, 03:55 PM Define "effective". Potara fusion was stated to be better than fusion dance because of the method it uses to merge the individuals. It is like when you create concrete. You can mix the elements by shovel or you can use a concrete mixer machine. The effect will be the same you will get concrete, but the two method are totally different in terms of "effectiveness" The mixer is way faster than the shovel method. Thus it is more effective in terms of time and quantity.



SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 04:10 PM Post #21
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Pointer, the problem is Gogeta's power gets capped between Gotenks Boo and Gohan Boo, he can't surpass Gohan Boo. Yet as we know, SSJ Vegetto is worlds above Gohan Boo.



EMIYA	Oct 29 2014, 04:37 PM Post #22
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Effectiveness is power, it's all about ki. More ki=More strength, speed, defense, etc. So when its said to be more effective, that makes it stronger, better, superior. Please also note that they clarify both the "Effectiveness" and the "Time" of potara. It was already stated that the Potara was superior and then Goku asked about the time limit which as then clarified later and not clarified with the "Effectiveness" itself. There's also the point that its stated to be the end result of fusion. Quote: Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.” So its not like Elder Kaioshin is saying Potara is superior because you don't have to worry about dealing with the dance movements or anything, he is saying that the end result is better than fusion. Edited by EMIYA, Oct 29 2014, 04:40 PM.



TheACE	Oct 29 2014, 04:41 PM Post #23
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Father Brofist Oct 29 2014, 04:37 PM Effectiveness is power, it's all about ki. More ki=More strength, speed, defense, etc. So when its said to be more effective, that makes it stronger, better, superior. effectiveness - from effective Effective - adjective 1. adequate to accomplish a purpose; producing the intended or expected result: According to Madame Miriam Webster
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EMIYA	Oct 29 2014, 04:42 PM Post #24
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Again...which means Potara is better, superior, stronger, etc than regular fusion.



TheACE	Oct 29 2014, 05:40 PM Post #25
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Just making sure we knew that Effective and Power aren't synonyms thank you, continue.
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+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 07:35 PM Post #26
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	As I have pointed out above effectiveness is not equal to quality



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Post #27
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost.
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EMIYA	Oct 29 2014, 08:05 PM Post #28
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	But effectiveness is equal to quality here. Old Fart Kaioshin has already stated that the effectiveness comes from the result of the fusion and we've already established that time wasn't the issue because Goku asked about that afterwards. Its not about the rivalry boost because again that was mentioned afterwards. So unless you think effectiveness means Vegetto can produce more milk from his tits, then its kind of obvious what the statement means. It means Vegetto is stronger, he is superior. He is more effective than Gogeta.



+ Pointer	Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Post #29
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 29 2014, 08:16 PM Post #30
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Pointer Oct 29 2014, 08:08 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 08:00 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 03:52 PM Orochimaru Oct 29 2014, 03:41 PM Pointer Oct 29 2014, 02:03 PM I mean the kids made small gains individually whilst they made enormous in fusion. Hence The gap between the kids and the adults shall not be used as a gap between gotenks and gogeta. opinion? Yestarday i would have told you its possible, but Super Saiyan mademe realise that this small gains individualy = huge gains in fusion is not working for every fusion to be made. Snd since there are statements that Vegito > Gogeta i dont see a reason to have Gogeta stronger. Where are those statements? All I can see is the statements of the effectiveness of the Potara fusion. It was never stated anywhere if Goku and Vegeta had used the regular fusion that it would not be enough for Buuhan Buuhan stating even while fusing they wont defeat him, he already saw one fusion and he msde that statement, plus been more effectibe must also apply to a greater power increaee, not to mention the rival boost. Okay Buuhan also thought he can beat super Vegito True, but we can understand this was pure arrogance. On the other hand Buuhan has seen a fusion made before and even fought against it, his judgement was never contractid and was basing off the results at how Gotenks fusion work out, not to mention the placement makes sense, SSJ3 Gogeta is approximately 2x Gotenks.
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