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Base Gotenks Pre < SSJ Goten pre
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 29 2014, 02:34 AM (1,796 Views)
* Yu Narukami	Oct 29 2014, 08:58 PM Post #31
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	I'd love to see SSJ Goten survive five seconds against Fat Boo. I guess he could, because Gohan waaaaaaaaaait I think someone would've said if Base Gotenks was weaker than SSJ Goten on the lookout.



Gohan Boo	Oct 29 2014, 09:04 PM Post #32
Posts: 294 Group: Member Member #10,812 Joined: January 31, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Forgot about that scene. I'd be inclined to admit ''defeat'', but they don't reacti as much to Super Saiyan Gotenks as with Base Gotenks. Edited by Gohan Boo, Oct 29 2014, 09:05 PM.



SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 09:05 PM Post #33
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Gohan Boo Oct 29 2014, 09:04 PM Forgot about that scene. I'd be inclined to admit ''defeat'', but their reactions to Super Saiyan Gotenks aren't the same either as with Base Gotenks. That's covered by the fact that Piccolo admits he has incredible ki. Edit: and the reaction is still decent, it's just they were expecting it this time I guess. Edited by SSJ, Oct 29 2014, 09:06 PM.



Gohan Boo	Oct 29 2014, 09:07 PM Post #34
Posts: 294 Group: Member Member #10,812 Joined: January 31, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	But that doesn't relate to their reactions to him. Piccolo even seems unimpressed by him. Their Base Gotenks reaction could simply be them seeing the fusion performed right for the first time. Edited by Gohan Boo, Oct 29 2014, 09:08 PM.



SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 09:12 PM Post #35
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Gohan Boo Oct 29 2014, 09:07 PM But that doesn't relate to their reactions to him. Piccolo even seems unimpressed by him. Their Base Gotenks reaction could simply be them seeing the fusion performed right for the first time. The reactions to SSJ Gotenks are similar if you go by the statements. Everyone is like, "this is incredible." Piccolo was never unimpressed by him, he confirmed that he had incredible ki, telling us that he was indeed strong enough to beat Boo. The problem with your thought about the base Gotenks reaction is that there are multiple power statements to compliment it. The SSJ kid scene has nothing which I just showed you. Edited by SSJ, Oct 29 2014, 09:16 PM.



SuperSaiyan1993	Oct 29 2014, 09:16 PM Post #36
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Wow this is incredibly stupid. Goku said fusion would yield a power greater than his SSJ3 strength. So naturally P123 infers that a fusee's SSJ power is greater than the fusion's power...
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


* Yu Narukami	Oct 29 2014, 09:20 PM Post #37
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Guys, SSJ2 Goku > SSJ3 Goku. I know there was literally no indication of that and no characters entertained the idea, but trust me.



Gohan Boo	Oct 29 2014, 09:27 PM Post #38
Posts: 294 Group: Member Member #10,812 Joined: January 31, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	True, but their ''inferior'' reactions to SSJ Gotenks'd mean the difference between the SSJ kids and SSJ Gotenks is smaller. Also, the Earthlings' statements or reaction don't really mean anything, when they can't outright tell Fat Gotenks is a failure and Yamcha even believes Fat Gotenks is what Goku wanted to fight Boo. Nor do their hopes in Base Gotenks mean anything, as they should be able to sense Boo and Gotenks' enourmous power difference and not go by his confidence. Edited by Gohan Boo, Oct 29 2014, 09:30 PM.



SSJ	Oct 29 2014, 09:32 PM Post #39
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	That makes no sense... Base Gotenks pre < SSJ pre is how it is, reaction or not. The reaction to SSJ Gotenks is irrelevant because we already know how strong he is. With Base Gotenks it's kind of a grey area, so comparing the reaction to the SSJ kids reaction is he best we have. And it's painfully clear which garnered a greater reaction. As I said earlier, they most likely wouldn't be as shocked because they'd already seen a successful fusion, now it's just adding Super Saiyan on top of that so they are already expecting him to be powerful. We can trust them, yeah. When fat Gotenks showed up people were saying thighs like "this can't really be the Gotenks who can beat Boo!!?" You've got to keep in mind that that was their first time seeing fusion. They didn't know what to expect so they assumed that what Gotenks was going to be like. He could have been suppressed for all they knew.



EMIYA	Oct 29 2014, 09:37 PM Post #40
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	having Base Gotenks weaker than SSJ Goten doesn't even make sense. You're literally saying that Gotenks and everyone else who clearly sensed SSJ3 Goku fighting Fat Boo is so stupid, so amazingly stupid... That they believe a guy weaker than SSJ Goten might be able to defeat fatty. What insane logic would compel them to think that?



Gohan Boo	Oct 29 2014, 09:41 PM Post #41
Posts: 294 Group: Member Member #10,812 Joined: January 31, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Like you said now, it was their first time seeing a fusion, but they have seen the Super Saiyan form dozens of times before and even have seen the kids at the Budokai using it, so comparing their reactions to their Super Saiyan forms with their reaction to a completely new Fusion technique doesn't necessarily mean Base Gotenks is stronger. They were supposed to be stupid.It was a gag scene, as they all face-faulted after he returned beat up. Besides, if they weren't stupid, then they'd be able to outright tell, that Gotenks stands no chance. Edited by Gohan Boo, Oct 29 2014, 09:45 PM.



EMIYA	Oct 29 2014, 09:49 PM Post #42
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Sure it does. Krillin felt SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, as did the kids. Everyone felt SSj3 Goku's power and Trunks stood there gawking I believe for a few seconds. Base Gotenks comes and he thinks he's going to defeat fatty in base. People looked at him and though, hey he might be able to do it. Even Piccolo who states Gotenks will lose is impressed by his power. Do you think someone weaker than SSJ Goten would be "impressive" especially at this point in time? Of course not. There's no problem in thinking that Gotenks mistakenly misread Boo's power, everyone has done that. Its stated that Boo's ki is a lie and its not the first time someone thought another person could beat someone else only to realize there was more to it. But what does that say of Gotenks who thinks he's going to take on Fat Boo if he's weaker than SSj Goten. Gotenks being weaker than SSj Goten makes him and everyone look like an idiot and not gag idiot, badly written character idiot.



+ Yusuke	Oct 30 2014, 12:24 AM Post #43
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Krillin thought Base Gotenks would be a better challeger to Fat Buu then anyone else at this time. If SSJ Kids were stronger, he'd want the Kids to get their a**** in gear and fight Buu ASAP.
	Ask Yusuke


TheACE	Oct 30 2014, 02:19 AM Post #44
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	I'm sorry I got bored and skipped over most of the thread. Is someone still under the impression that Super Goten > Gotenks, or are we just flaming p123 at this point?
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