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How strong was Cyborg Tao Pai Pai?
Topic Started: Oct 28 2014, 03:42 PM (2,572 Views)
DSTREET45 Oct 30 2014, 06:58 PM Post #31
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G Michael Jackson
Oct 30 2014, 04:41 PM
Ok. I likely won't continue, especially since you ignore or deflect from most things that I state.

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G Michael Jackson
Oct 30 2014, 03:51 AM
Google.
Ok. Didn't seem very helpful.
btw I did mention fights prior to this, but you ignored those as well.

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I'll name them again. During, Son Goku and/or Tenshinhan Budokai 22 matches each of them held off from fighting to their maximum capacity until fighting one another. Even throughout Son and Piccolo's Budokai 23, Son speaks on Piccolo not showing his true power.

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Visually powering up has never been necessary to raise power.Fighters have always been generally stronger when actually fighting.


Any evidence of this before the Raditz fight (as in raising ki while fighting someone at the same time)?
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The Namekians were stronger when fighting. The Z-Fighters were stronger than the 1000 when fighting the Saibamen (this is like saying Tenshinhan was only under 1220 during his fight until he did Ki Ko Ho).


1. All of these are AFTER the events I'm talking about.
2. The namekians (at least one on panel) powered up right before the fight.
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3. Tien, Yamcha, and Chiaozu didn't have their PL checked. It's possible that they were at full power already. Even if they weren't see #1.
These are deflections; as soon as someone answers you're question, you dismiss, and attempt to move on to something else. Point 1 means nothing. My examples are adequate, and #3 is incorrect. Piccolo at 1220 was the strongest power that Nappa read on his scouter. I may give you Point 2.

Also, concerning Point 3-see-1. All three of them, and also Clearin, only just received training that Son Goku had received even before Budokai 23. What does them fighting after Son and Raditz have to do with Ten nor Yamcha not visually powering up when fighting Saibamen? Also, I'm sure Piccolo's dispatching of a Saibaman so easily was indicative of more than a battle power of 1220, even before using the mouth blast.

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Piccolo didn't power up against Dr Gero. Among other examples.


Give me examples that happening BEFORE the fight against Raditz. Just because they were able to do it then doesn't mean that they did it against Raditz. The first time I remember actually seeing that mid-battle was when Goku fought the Ginyu Force and that's because Goku could raise and drop his power so quickly the scouters couldn't register the flux.
Also add that his change in power was so great for the amount of time that he takes to change it. From 5000 to 6000 in that amount of time would not have been a
as incredible of a feat.

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This does not neutralize any argument; you would like to neutralize the argument; heck you actually started the argument.

Argument (def 3): a process of reasoning; a series of reasons. In other words: case, defense, statements, points. I'm saying that it invalidates your point of Raditz not needing to mention their power rising since he does it later. The guy doesn't so much as even think to himself that their powers are still rising mid-battle.
900 to Raditz is actually a lot more of a threat than 600. He would be more cognizant of a rise to 900 than 600. But I'll agree to disagree; I don't want to go back and forth here.

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900 is substantially higher than 416 or even 600.


Yet it's still weaker than Raditz which as you said earlier wouldn't be worth pointing out since it wouldn't make a difference. It wouldn't matter if 900 is substantially bigger than 600 or 416. And for that matter 600 is a substantially higher than 416 anyway so why wouldn't that be worth noting?
(See above) 600 wouldn't be worth noting, because Raditz already states that couple 100 more added to 416 wouldn't bother him. But 900 is actually doubling 416 and Son power was still rising.

Heck, Raditz stating that 600 wouldn't be a problem, but then mentioning 900 (and then Piccolo's 1020...1030) says enough. He wouldn't need to mention it. And since we've seen fighters raise power in earlier Budokais and even after Raditz, I'd state it given that fighters can raise power while fighting, and we don't need to told by the manga every time it happens.

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Why not point it out? Raising power like that is rare.


So is raising power mid-fight at that point in the story. And Raditz could've simply stated that Goku is focusing the ki in one area without mentioning the power increase since, according to your logic, the power itself is still noting compared to his and therefore is not worth noting.
(see above) Ten vs Roshi; Son Goku vs Ten; heck, Ten vs Tao.

You can respond. I'm done.[/quote]I concede.
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DEY DID DIS 2 ME Nov 1 2014, 01:02 AM Post #32
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 Overall, IMO, Cyber Tao is at most one stage under Yamcha or Kuririn; at least, stronger than Ten and Son at Budokai 22—perhaps even as strong as Drum.

But earnestly, Tao doesn't need to be [any|much] stronger than he was when introduced, aside from Dodonpa.

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SSJsongojames Nov 2 2014, 12:30 AM Post #33
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Oct 28 2014, 05:00 PM
According to Weekly Jump #31 (where a lot of canon power levels come from), his power level is 210.

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I'm pretty sure 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Goku's power level was lower than 910.
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