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Would you give criminals a second chance?
Topic Started: Oct 27 2014, 03:32 AM (1,610 Views)
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As someone who's done that I can confirm that I'm nothing like that in person. It's kind of like an online persona. So no you shouldn't take it seriously. It's very easy to misbehave when you're typing on a keyboard as opposed to speaking face to face.


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Oct 27 2014, 09:29 PM
As someone who's done that I can confirm that I'm nothing like that in person. It's kind of like an online persona. So no you shouldn't take it seriously. It's very easy to misbehave when you're typing on a keyboard as opposed to speaking face to face.
As long as we change our behaviors from now on with minors and adults online or in an online game, we won't get in trouble right?
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I would give criminals a second chance, yes. If we don't give them that chance, that's it; we're admitting that they're too far gone and that it's not even worth trying to rehabilitate them. That they're inherently bad and no effort can be made to attempt to change them.
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Oct 27 2014, 08:46 PM
High school kids are the most perverted people out there. They say sexual things to each other every day and eventually when they become adults, they transition out of that phase. So how is your idea a logical argument for something like this?

I told you, not every rapist or sexual predators are bound to repeat the same offenses when they're out. Some of them are good people who made stupid mistakes in the past. You are in no position to be judging the state of mind of other people unless they keep getting arrested. You're already assuming that every person who commits a sex crime will stay like that forever.
Being a horny and hormonal kid is a bit different from being the sort of freak pervert that'd grope people on trains or spend all day watching children at parks thinking sick things.

Pretty sure Pel meant malicious perverts.

If I see a woman with nice breasts showing off her cleavage am I going to look and like it? Sure. If she goes down an alleyway alone am I going to go rape her or even consider it? Hell to the no.


I don't see how rape can be justifiable by any means. It's a pretty big thing to just label as a "mistake" like that's a magical band aid that fixes everything, there's no excuse for rape.
Only when the circumstances are sketchy should they be let off in my opinion which includes statutory rape I think that's a heap of BS unless the age difference is like a 12 year old and an 18 year old.
Can a rapist change their ways? Probably but they're going to prison first no "it was an accident though!" or "I was drunk!" get out of jail free card.
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Oct 27 2014, 10:34 PM
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Oct 27 2014, 08:46 PM
High school kids are the most perverted people out there. They say sexual things to each other every day and eventually when they become adults, they transition out of that phase. So how is your idea a logical argument for something like this?

I told you, not every rapist or sexual predators are bound to repeat the same offenses when they're out. Some of them are good people who made stupid mistakes in the past. You are in no position to be judging the state of mind of other people unless they keep getting arrested. You're already assuming that every person who commits a sex crime will stay like that forever.
Being a horny and hormonal kid is a bit different from being the sort of freak pervert that'd grope people on trains or spend all day watching children at parks thinking sick things.

Pretty sure Pel meant malicious perverts.

If I see a woman with nice breasts showing off her cleavage am I going to look and like it? Sure. If she goes down an alleyway alone am I going to go rape her or even consider it? Hell to the no.


I don't see how rape can be justifiable by any means. It's a pretty big thing to just label as a "mistake" like that's a magical band aid that fixes everything, there's no excuse for rape.
Only when the circumstances are sketchy should they be let off in my opinion which includes statutory rape I think that's a heap of BS unless the age difference is like a 12 year old and an 18 year old.
Can a rapist change their ways? Probably but they're going to prison first no "it was an accident though!" or "I was drunk!" get out of jail free card.
Well, being in prison usually teaches those rapists or gropers not to ever do those sick stuff again. But again, some repeat the offenses either because they don't have self-control or they have mental illness that is causing them to commit those acts.

One question I've always had was if you committed a "grope" with someone on the street, would it usually make yourself feel miserable too? Or would it be just the victim who feels the pain..
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Oct 27 2014, 09:25 PM
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Oct 27 2014, 09:12 PM
It really depends on what they did and what their current condition is.
If they killed someone, but feel remorse and are rehibilitated, than I don't see why they shouldn't at least be able to get their sentence reduced.

If they killed someone and feel no remorse, than no, they deserve to stay in jail.

If they feel remorse, but are in danger of repeating their crime, then they should stay in jail or at least be on probation.
But people like child molesters have no means or proof that they can reform themselves, therefore I think that they should stay behind bars.
However, sex offenders aren't all bad. Someone convicted of statutory r*** is legally considered a "sex offender" in the US, even if both parties had consensual sex.
For example, a 17 year old guy has sex with a 15 year old girl. Both consented, but her parents find out, and press charges.

He's put in the same legal boat as a 55 year old who molests 8 year olds. In short, it's not fair.
Should you take someone who makes inappropriate or sexual comments online or in an online game seriously? They could just be trolls and pretending to be pedophiles or sex offenders, but aren't like that in real life.
Everyone trolls online, and due to this mindset of anonymity while online, most people feel that they can say whatever they want on discussion boards and other places without it actually effecting their lives.

Most of them are just showing off, and it would usually be a waste of time to take them seriously.

However, it's different on a social networking site because those are more personal than somewhere like these boards. Almost no one here uses their real name or picture.

It's not like Facebook where you're consistently talking about what you're doing in your daily life, and most people that you're friends with on Facebook are people you know outside the internet.
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guys i ended up hitting on fresh 18 yr olds at a bar last friday (the first one said she'd only just turned 2 days before). i only found out their age midway through the conversation but i still feel like a paedo ;[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[

@topic most yes depending on what they did and their history
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Well the jimmy saville and Rolf Harris incidents were about that long ago and people only started taking the victims seriously recently. Of course those were serious sexual assaults and not just a grope or two. But it's possible that whilst one person may only be groped, someone else might have had something more serious done to them by the same person and been too afraid to come forward. Seeing them in trouble on the news might just give them the courage to come forward about it.


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Oct 28 2014, 10:21 PM
Well the jimmy saville and Rolf Harris incidents were about that long ago and people only started taking the victims seriously recently. Of course those were serious sexual assaults and not just a grope or two. But it's possible that whilst one person may only be groped, someone else might have had something more serious done to them by the same person and been too afraid to come forward. Seeing them in trouble on the news might just give them the courage to come forward about it.
This country is just getting stupider and stupider each second, not minutes, but seconds. I bet you years from now, we're going to have people suing other people for minor offenses or suing because they think something was done on purpose.
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It depends on the crime.

If it's first degree murder, gang rape, child molesters, corruption in politics, in my opinion, I think we should bring back the death chair and let them die in pain.

If you killed someone by driving under the influence of alcohol, drugs, punch someone and they fall and hit their head on a rock or sharp object, etc... they should be punished by the full extend of the law, but once they served their time and rehabilitate, I think they should deserve a second chance by society giving them one, they should convince us that they deserve a second chance by action and not just promises.


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