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Base Gotenks Pre Rosat vs SSJ2 Goku
Topic Started: Oct 26 2014, 08:54 PM (1,400 Views)
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Gotenks actually survived though. Besides, Gotenks might have put up a decent fight too, we don't know since we never saw their fight.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

You know who also put up a fight against Fat Boo? SSj3 Goku.

We suggesting SSj2 Vegeta~SSJ3 Goku now?
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Oct 29 2014, 02:20 AM
You know who also put up a fight against Fat Boo? SSj3 Goku.

We suggesting SSj2 Vegeta~SSJ3 Goku now?
Difference. Goku was winning. Veggie, not so much.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

So how does that relate to Vegeta>Base Gotenks? Is Gotenks so stupid that he thinks he can beat a guy who pretty much murdered his father despite being weaker? I really doubt that.
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Oct 29 2014, 02:30 AM
So how does that relate to Vegeta>Base Gotenks? Is Gotenks so stupid that he thinks he can beat a guy who pretty much murdered his father despite being weaker? I really doubt that.
Yes he is. He went and tried, then got his a*** whipped.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

You know what could've happened. Gotenks goes to fight a Fat Boo he thinks he can beat, and ends up underestimating Boo's power since his ki is such a lie. It's already stated that Boo and Goku were messing around in their own fight and not taking it seriously. Its quite easy for Gotenks to view that fight and think he can win and then come to fight Boo where the latter just becomes more serious.

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Could have, but that's a lot of conjecture. And honestly, just because he has super powers, you really think this 8 year old has a firm grasp on reality and how his environment around him relates to him? He probably way overestimates his power just like his father. Only difference is Vegeta (Eventually after several dozen a*** kickings) learned his lesson.
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Oct 29 2014, 02:45 AM
Could have, but that's a lot of conjecture. And honestly, just because he has super powers, you really think this 8 year old has a firm grasp on reality and how his environment around him relates to him? He probably way overestimates his power just like his father. Only difference is Vegeta (Eventually after several dozen a*** kickings) learned his lesson.
You're claiming Gotenks got whooped worse than Majin Vegeta when we didn't even witness the fight between Gotenks and Boo. Is that not conjecture?
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Oct 29 2014, 02:55 AM
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Oct 29 2014, 02:45 AM
Could have, but that's a lot of conjecture. And honestly, just because he has super powers, you really think this 8 year old has a firm grasp on reality and how his environment around him relates to him? He probably way overestimates his power just like his father. Only difference is Vegeta (Eventually after several dozen a*** kickings) learned his lesson.
You're claiming Gotenks got whooped worse than Majin Vegeta when we didn't even witness the fight between Gotenks and Boo. Is that not conjecture?
Nope. Anime, while filler, backs up the manga statement and the Gotenks we see at the lookout with his a*** fully whipped.

http://youtu.be/g_TDzUHhvgI
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On the merit that he blew HIMSELF up, correct.

Besides, Hercule survived his Fight with Cell. Goku, not so much... And we all know Goku is radically more powerful than Hercule.
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Oct 29 2014, 03:11 AM
On the merit that he blew HIMSELF up, correct.
He was going to die until Trunks interfered... and then he killed himself.
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Posted Image You're implying just because Gotenks came back beaten, automatically means he must have done worse than Vegeta, even though we didn't even see Gotenks fight Fat Boo.

Fat Boo is SSJ3 tier. Vegeta got his a*** handed to him when Fat Boo got a bit more serious. Gotenks could've put up a good fight against Fat Boo, until Fat Boo raised his power and thus overwhelmed Gotenks. Just like he did vs Vegeta.
So... yeah we don't know especially since the fight wasn't even included in the manga. Filler is non-canon so don't bring that. lol Posted Image
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Oct 29 2014, 03:20 AM
Posted Image You're implying just because Gotenks came back beaten, automatically means he must have done worse than Vegeta, even though we didn't even see Gotenks fight Fat Boo.

Fat Boo is SSJ3 tier. Vegeta got his a*** handed to him when Fat Boo got a bit more serious. Gotenks could've put up a good fight against Fat Boo, until Fat Boo raised his power and thus overwhelmed Gotenks. Just like he did vs Vegeta.
So... yeah we don't know especially since the fight wasn't even included in the manga. Filler is non-canon so don't bring that. lol Posted Image
No you inferred that.

And in the absence of a manga fight we can either make back and forth assumptions, with neither of us having any real reason that one is more accurate than the other, or we can work with the visualization. It doesn't contractdict the source material, so I fail to see any lack of validity in its' use.
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All the statements implying Gotenks > SSJ2's still stands though. Besides, Fat Boo could've been using more power against Gotenks than he did against Vegeta, resulting in Gotenks swiftly getting his a*** kicked.
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