Why do people think Oozaru Vegeta is 180,000?

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Why do people think Oozaru Vegeta is 180,000?
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 26 2014, 02:18 AM (3,031 Views)
* Ketchup Revenge	Oct 26 2014, 05:32 AM Post #16
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	I think the point is being missed that in order to reach your true 100%, your physical condition has to be 100%. We've seen people's physical conditions affect the potential power they can reach in their transformed states. Fatigue and injuries seem to carry over. Goku's heart ailment made his power far less staggering (as noted by Piccolo), and Goku's transformation was noted by Vegeta to actually aggravate the condition. Gohan's broken arm decreased his power in SSj2 by a significant amount. Goku was too burnt out to even go SSj during the fight against Kid Boo when he threw the Genki Dama at him. They wished for his ki to be restored, and Goku was able to transform into SSj. Something also worth mentioning is that if characters truly heal after they transform, why don't they just revert and then transform again? Wouldn't that heal their injuries?
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+ Emmeth	Oct 26 2014, 05:43 AM Post #17
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Ketchup Revenge Oct 26 2014, 05:32 AM Something also worth mentioning is that if characters truly heal after they transform, why don't they just revert and then transform again? Wouldn't that heal their injuries? Actually, I think it's the initial transformation that can heal wounds and the subsequent anger will probably help. I know for a fact that my energy gets a boost when I get angry. As for Freeza, I think it has something to do with his race. He healed after every power-up as far as I remember.
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* Ketchup Revenge	Oct 26 2014, 06:23 AM Post #18
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Dr. Zoidberg Oct 26 2014, 05:43 AM Ketchup Revenge Oct 26 2014, 05:32 AM Something also worth mentioning is that if characters truly heal after they transform, why don't they just revert and then transform again? Wouldn't that heal their injuries? Actually, I think it's the initial transformation that can heal wounds and the subsequent anger will probably help. I know for a fact that my energy gets a boost when I get angry. As for Freeza, I think it has something to do with his race. He healed after every power-up as far as I remember. To be honest, he didn't really recieve damage in his weaker forms. The only damage that he received was from Krillin's kienzan, which was superficial at best. His tail didn't regenerate when he went 100% after getting mowed down by the Genki Dama, therefore I don't believe that he "recovered" from his injuries when he went 100%. We see him get it back in all his other forms. I wouldn't consider a hair color change to be an actual "transformation" similar to Freeza's forms. The body bulks up, and that's about it. The physical parameters of his body doesn't change like Freeza's does. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Oct 26 2014, 06:28 AM.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	Oct 26 2014, 06:35 AM Post #19
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	18,000 * 10 = 180,000 potentially. It's about how much damaged you think he received along with the moon ball cost. That shouldn't be too complicated to come up with something good. Especially since you know that Goku said he couldn't beat him with a Kaio-ken x5.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2014, 08:56 AM Post #20
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Perhaps the 180.000 is the number they use in regards to FP Oozaru Vegeta, but aside from that i also think its not correct to do so, Vegeta was clearly wounded and had a lower power level than his true power, propably 12.000 or so.
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+ Clearin	Oct 26 2014, 10:00 AM Post #21
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Ketchup Revenge Oct 26 2014, 04:41 AM Clearin Oct 26 2014, 02:36 AM I think people just refer to Oozaru Vegeta's general power as 180,000, which is true, not necessarily the amount he used. 180,000 is probably his potential level, not his actual. There's a difference. That's what I said in the quote.



lazerbem	Oct 26 2014, 12:24 PM Post #22
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Vegeta may simply be talking out his a***. His feats in the form are truly awful. An exhausted Goku is capable of dodging him and outright tearing out his eye with a single ki blast
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Rogafufuken	Oct 26 2014, 02:34 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,483 Group: Member Member #10,933 Joined: February 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z/Kai, and Nisekoi What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z, and One Piece	I'm pretty sure they're referring to what he would have been if A) There was a moon and B) He transformed at the start of the fight Basically meaning what would happen before the fight if Vegeta went Oozaru. Of course after the fight he got a Zenkai boost, changing his power level.



TheACE	Oct 26 2014, 05:43 PM Post #24
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	He can totally be 180,000. Sure he couldn't beat Goku, but this is a stage in the show where, and quote me on this, we prove that POWER LEVELS DON'T MATTER! Vegeta got over confident because of his super high number and got his arse whipped by Yanjirobe because he underestimated his enemy yet again. And he continues to do the same stuff for the next 7 seasons or so, he never learns. So sure, he can have a rediculously over the top power level, it doesn't matter. He didn't lose by being over powered, he lost to an opponent's superior tactics and the element of surprise. Sneak attack? Yeah, but Alls fair in love & war. So yeah, I honestly can't think of a real reason it WOULDN'T be 180,000 or whatever.
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+ Pointer	Oct 26 2014, 06:03 PM Post #25
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Super Saiyan Oct 26 2014, 02:18 AM I see it on basically every dbz forum on the net. He is not. In depends Buu saga , cell saga, android saga, namek saga Vegeta certainly not But Saiyan saga Vegeta definitely is



Alex D. Boss	Oct 26 2014, 07:02 PM Post #26
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Placing him at that level is fine.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2014, 07:56 PM Post #27
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Don Alex Oct 26 2014, 07:02 PM Placing him at that level is fine. After getting a beating by Kaioken 3x Goku and eating a Kamehameha more powerfull than his own power level? I dont think he was at his full power after all that.
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+ Pointer	Oct 26 2014, 08:13 PM Post #28
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Orochimaru Oct 26 2014, 07:56 PM Don Alex Oct 26 2014, 07:02 PM Placing him at that level is fine. After getting a beating by Kaioken 3x Goku and eating a Kamehameha more powerfull than his own power level? I dont think he was at his full power after all that. Who proved that the Oozaru transformation doesnt works like ssj? Boost your energy to your max in base then multiply it with 10



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2014, 08:22 PM Post #29
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Dr. Jack Shephard Oct 26 2014, 08:13 PM Orochimaru Oct 26 2014, 07:56 PM Don Alex Oct 26 2014, 07:02 PM Placing him at that level is fine. After getting a beating by Kaioken 3x Goku and eating a Kamehameha more powerfull than his own power level? I dont think he was at his full power after all that. Who proved that the Oozaru transformation doesnt works like ssj? Boost your energy to your max in base then multiply it with 10 I guess that could work as an explanation, i forgot about the SSJ boost to max and then multiplier. However is there any proof that it does work that way i have no problem accepting it, just curious on the matter.
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Event Horizon	Oct 26 2014, 08:33 PM Post #30
エンペラー Posts: -894,312 Group: Elite Four Member #7,966 Joined: July 18, 2012	He would've been at 180.000 had he transformed via the moon and done so right from the start. He clearly wasn't at 180.000 when he transformed against Goku. He took quite the beating when Goku used 3x Kaioken and then he got overpowered by 4x Kaioken Goku's Kamehameha. Vegeta's Ki also went down when he used the Power Ball. Chapter: 232 (DBZ 38), P11.2 Context: as Vegeta uses the Power Ball Goku: “His ki went down as soon as he made that weird light!! What would he go and do that for?! I don’t get it!!”



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