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| Why do people think Oozaru Vegeta is 180,000? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 26 2014, 02:18 AM (3,028 Views) | |
| SSJ | Oct 26 2014, 02:18 AM Post #1 |
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I see it on basically every dbz forum on the net. He is not. |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 26 2014, 02:21 AM Post #2 |
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Which Oozaru Vegeta? Maybe they're talking about the one that would form if he looked at the full moon. Did you ever ask them if this was the case? |
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| + Clearin | Oct 26 2014, 02:23 AM Post #3 |
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Chapter: 233 (DBZ 39), P6.2 Oozaru Vegeta: “Wanna hear something good?... When Saiyans become Oozaru, their battle power becomes 10 times what it is as a human!!!!" 18,000 * 10 = 180,000 |
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| SSJ | Oct 26 2014, 02:25 AM Post #4 |
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People always put on their power level lists, 180k, then put the Spirit Bomb above that.
The moon ball. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Oct 26 2014, 02:30 AM Post #5 |
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Totally forgot about the moon ball. Not to mention that hit he took from Goku's Kamehameha couldn't have left him completely unscathed either. 10,000 after all that, perhaps? Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Oct 26 2014, 02:31 AM.
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| SSJ | Oct 26 2014, 02:32 AM Post #6 |
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My thoughts exactly, at least somewhere in that range. His beating from Kaioken x3 Goku had him coughing up blood and he looked absolutely battered. It also takes some ki to fire a beam like the Gyarikku Ho, and he also tanked a KHH right after that. 14k should be the absolute most that he can be. Oh right, and he says the moon ball uses a lot of chi. |
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| + Clearin | Oct 26 2014, 02:36 AM Post #7 |
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I think people just refer to Oozaru Vegeta's general power as 180,000, which is true, not necessarily the amount he used. |
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| SSJ | Oct 26 2014, 02:37 AM Post #8 |
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That is fair enough if stated. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Oct 26 2014, 02:55 AM Post #9 |
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I list him at 180,000 simply because it's his max power. I think everyone knows his battle power is lower than that in his fight with Goku since he's clearly battle weary, not to mention the Power Ball is stated to have lowered his battle power. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Oct 26 2014, 04:41 AM Post #10 |
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180,000 is probably his potential level, not his actual. There's a difference. For example, for the beatings that Goku and Freeza both took on Namek from each other, I don't consider their actual levels to be 120 and 150. That's just what their potential levels are. |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 26 2014, 04:43 AM Post #11 |
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Just out of curiosity, what do you consider them to be at? I know this is slightly off-topic, but I'll allow it. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Oct 26 2014, 04:57 AM Post #12 |
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I think the Genki Dama hit that Freeza took damaged him considerably, enough to at least off-set his potential 100%. I don't know if his actual power decreased by this much, but a 33% reduction would put his actual "50%" at 40,000,000 (being that his potential 50% is 60,000,000). This would put his actual 100% at 80,000,000. Goku's power undoubtedly decreased as well from the Genki Dama and the 20x Kamehameha. However, I also have a hard time believing that Goku was only at 3,000,000 when he fights Freeza. If this is true, than this would mean that Freeza's suppressed Final Form is less than 3x his Second form. That to me just seems like a pathetic increase over two transformations. So, with that being said, if Goku is actually at 5,000,000, and then he decreases to 1,800,000 after his Genki Dama and 20x Kamehameha, that would put his SSj 90,000,000. This would give him a 12.5% advantage over 100% Freeza, which to me seems reasonable considering that their fight wasn't that one-sided until Freeza burnt himself out. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Oct 26 2014, 05:04 AM.
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| + Emmeth | Oct 26 2014, 05:02 AM Post #13 |
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I suppose that's fair. Although, I think they got back to their full levels of fighting, since I believe in second wins. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Oct 26 2014, 05:08 AM Post #14 |
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I'm just a firm believer that people don't heal after transformations. It's different with characters like Cell and Boo whose bodies actually metamorphasize. |
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| + Emmeth | Oct 26 2014, 05:11 AM Post #15 |
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Why would Freeza boast his 100% if he knew he wouldn't be truly 100%? Same goes for Goku wanting to see his 100%. |
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