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The legal system
Topic Started: Oct 25 2014, 06:13 PM (972 Views)
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Oct 26 2014, 12:17 AM
You're being ignorant if you believe every crime gets reported. Domestic violence and sexual assaults in particular often go unpunished. They can often be very hard to get evidence for in court as well. Hence why it's better if more victims come forward. More statements = more evidence = better conviction rate.
You're the one being ignorant. If someone touched you or anything, you report it to the authorities. They have DNA testing to find out whose DNA is on you. Plus, nowadays, police makes a report right away about sexual assaults that happened in the proceeding day. It's YOUR job to come forward and make the report if you were a victim.

However, I still do not think it's fair to reveal anybody's name until they're found guilty. If people are afraid to report sex assaults, then that means we need the people in charge of law out there to keep reminding people to speak up now rather than later. Nowadays, the authorities WANT you to report sex assaults even if you were just one person who was a victim.

If you don't report it, it's not their fault. No one should be guilty of anything.
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Maybe I would personally but the facts are that plenty of people unfortunately don't do that. DNA evidence for sexual assaults generally only lasts for a short period of time too so that can't always be used. Especially with the Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris cases where people only came forward decades later.

You're also quite wrong about the police. There have been several high profile cases here in the last couple of years where the authorities failed to act accordingly with very serious allegations. You should look into operation Yew tree and the jimmy saville inquiries to see what I'm talking about. There's also the tragic case of Baby P where the authorities failed spectacularly to properly deal with a serious child abuse case.


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Oct 26 2014, 12:32 AM
Maybe I would personally but the facts are that plenty of people unfortunately don't do that. DNA evidence for sexual assaults generally only lasts for a short period of time too so that can't always be used. Especially with the Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris cases where people only came forward decades later.

You're also quite wrong about the police. There have been several high profile cases here in the last couple of years where the authorities failed to act accordingly with very serious allegations. You should look into operation Yew tree and the jimmy saville inquiries to see what I'm talking about. There's also the tragic case of Baby P where the authorities failed spectacularly to properly deal with a serious child abuse case.
See, that's the problem. That's why I think there should always be a statute of limitations for sex assaults so people do not have to keep waiting for those people to make a report. 10 years is a big waste of time.

If a crime involves r***, murder, or a terrorist act, then those should not have statute of limitations because they're violent crimes.
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Yeah I'm not having this discussion with you anymore.


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Oct 25 2014, 06:24 PM
A fair arguement but in some high profile cases, releasing accusations to the public can encourage other victims to come forward. Examples include Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville. Of course you're nearly always going to get false accusations from this as well. But those people get found out at court level or even after one police interview. As was the case with William Roach. So it's better to encourage legit victims to come forward even if that means there are false accusations as well because 99% of the time the truth comes out in the end anyway.
I'm gonna go talk about how you raped me and ruin your reputation. Still a great idea though, right????
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Oct 26 2014, 01:58 AM
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Oct 25 2014, 06:24 PM
A fair arguement but in some high profile cases, releasing accusations to the public can encourage other victims to come forward. Examples include Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville. Of course you're nearly always going to get false accusations from this as well. But those people get found out at court level or even after one police interview. As was the case with William Roach. So it's better to encourage legit victims to come forward even if that means there are false accusations as well because 99% of the time the truth comes out in the end anyway.
I'm gonna go talk about how you raped me and ruin your reputation. Still a great idea though, right????
To be fair. False rape reports has happened many of times. In 90%(False percentage) of cases that proves it was a lie to either get money, give the other bad rep, or because they're famous the liar looks like the fool and the person accused don't get any bad rep. They will say many times on the news that the charges was false. However I do agree that cases should be reported but not the suspects until at least enough proof to hint the person did it. Suspects should remain anonymous just in case they're innocent.

But let's say it's a video and the police zooms in and see a potential suspect. They release a picture for the news or a sketch. That should be allowed to be seen so someone can call if they see the suspect. I don't study the legal system or any politics so I'm probably way off.
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Oct 26 2014, 02:25 PM
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Oct 26 2014, 01:58 AM
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Oct 25 2014, 06:24 PM
A fair arguement but in some high profile cases, releasing accusations to the public can encourage other victims to come forward. Examples include Rolf Harris and Jimmy Saville. Of course you're nearly always going to get false accusations from this as well. But those people get found out at court level or even after one police interview. As was the case with William Roach. So it's better to encourage legit victims to come forward even if that means there are false accusations as well because 99% of the time the truth comes out in the end anyway.
I'm gonna go talk about how you raped me and ruin your reputation. Still a great idea though, right????
To be fair. False rape reports has happened many of times. In 90%(False percentage) of cases that proves it was a lie to either get money, give the other bad rep, or because they're famous the liar looks like the fool and the person accused don't get any bad rep. They will say many times on the news that the charges was false. However I do agree that cases should be reported but not the suspects until at least enough proof to hint the person did it. Suspects should remain anonymous just in case they're innocent.

But let's say it's a video and the police zooms in and see a potential suspect. They release a picture for the news or a sketch. That should be allowed to be seen so someone can call if they see the suspect. I don't study the legal system or any politics so I'm probably way off.
Lol, we need to vote out our politicians and have those with common sense in that office.
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Well the general election is next year and I'm confident that Labour will win. My local MP Gary Streeter is a complete t***. I wish there weren't so many stupid old people around here so that we could vote in someone not so conservative.
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