Hermit Mode Jiraiya vs Itachi

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Hermit Mode Jiraiya vs Itachi
Tweet Topic Started: Oct 25 2014, 03:15 PM (1,211 Views)
* Stark	Oct 25 2014, 03:15 PM Post #1
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	One of my favourite matchups of all time. Conditions: Distance is 10 meters. Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode to avoid getting destroyed earlier. Knowledge is full on both sides. Itachi has good eyesight and won't die due to the illness. No items, fox only, final destination.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 25 2014, 03:19 PM Post #2
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	I dont think Jiraya can beat Itachi, fact is i believe that Itachi's susanno, amaterasu and the Mangekyo would give him the win. Sage Mode Jiraya is definently stronger in taijutsu and faser but Itachi is a genious at battle and has amazing genjutsu. However i would like to see your own view at this Puccio, you have great knowledge at Naruto Edited by Majin Vegeta, Oct 25 2014, 03:20 PM.
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* Stark	Oct 25 2014, 03:23 PM Post #3
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	Itachi, Arkadom, Copy and Steve all dust me in regards of Naruto ahah. I think this is a very close match but I tend to give Jiraiya the edge with extreme difficulties because he has decent counters to all of Itachi's abilities, bar Tsukuyomi, who he'd need to watch out for. He has a fire seal for Amaterasu and Yomi Nouma for Susano'o, but he's fast and deadly and if Jiraiya's pierced by Susano'o's sword he gun get sealed son. Very close match but I give this to Jiraiya based on portrayal and feats 5.5/10.



+ supersaqer	Oct 25 2014, 05:10 PM Post #4
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I think Itachi could win this one. Jiraya requires both toads on his shoulders to maintain Sage Mode, and they could be a prey for Itachi's genjutsu. Itachi's Susanoo has Yata Mirror, which will take on anything Jiraya has. He has his attack, which to be honest I forgot its name, which along Naruto's Rasenshuriken and Bee's Bijuu Bomb destroyed Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. He has his Sword of Totsuka which could seal Jiraya. Tsukuyomi would oneshot Jiraya. Amaterasu could help here too. So all in all, I think Itachi has more chances here.
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+ Steve	Oct 25 2014, 05:56 PM Post #5
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I think Jiraiya has a good chance to win if he can put Itachi's Susano'o off balance with the bog technique or the technique Pain first absorbed up. He done pretty crap against Pain's powers but taking them out of the equation he has a lot of fire power, literally also. Itachi wasn't even that confident about fighting base Jiraiya, I don't think Genjutsu would be a problem here Jiraiya has been around longer than Itachi has lived he's known many Uchiha and their techniques I doubt he'd fall prey to Genjutsu with his knowledge. Plus if he has the toads on his shoulders they should count as an outside source of chakra meaning he can break out were he to get caught in one. I don't see how Susano'o could handle the toad oil bath thing it can't absorb chakra and I doubt it can survive in a massive pool of what is essentially lava. The Yata Mirror is only going to protect him from one side. The bog too in Sage Mode he should be able to make it fairly huge he was at what 30-60% against Orochimaru? And it was still big, without SM. Amaterasu I'm pretty sure sensing would handle, if Sasuke can run away from it Jiraiya being able to sense it should enable him to do the same. I doubt base Sasuke is faster than SM Jiraiya with a wing sticking out. Heck Amaterasu would give Jiraiya an advantage due to the backlash Itachi receives from it, worse since he was sick of course but it's still quite clearly painful to use regardless. I'd say Itachi's main way to win would be Totsuka Blade, it doesn't seem like the sort of thing Jiraiya would know about so if he tried to block or tank it in any way he's doomed. Except maybe massive Rasengan I'm sure that'd deflect it nicely if needed. Itachi would mostly be on the defensive here he lacks immediate offence without Susano'o and with it he's vulnerable to wide scale attacks.
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2014, 08:06 PM Post #6
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Im not sure about it, but can Jiraya hold off Sage Mode form more than 5 minutes? Cause if he cant then im confident Itachi would be able to hold on long enough for sage mode to wear off and go to the offensive, i dont think Base Jiraya can handle Itachi. Something else i remembered, wasn't Edo Tensei Itachi able to hold his own against Biju Naruto in Taijutsu? And if i am correct his Biju mode > Sage Mode > Sage Mode Jiraya.
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* Stark	Oct 26 2014, 08:10 PM Post #7
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	Jiraiya doesn't need to gather natural energy himself so he can't run out, no. It's the sages that do it for him. Also Yata doesn't cover the ground, just the actual construct. Yomi Nouma attacks from below pretty much sinking the user. Edited by Stark, Oct 26 2014, 08:11 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2014, 08:18 PM Post #8
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	I get it now, however aren't the sages that gather energy vulnerable to attacks? I think Itachi would notice such weakness and take advantage dont you think? And as far as taijutsu goes, like i posted earlier wasn't Edo Itachi = Biju Mode Naruto?
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+ Steve	Oct 26 2014, 10:41 PM Post #9
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Orochimaru Oct 26 2014, 08:18 PM I get it now, however aren't the sages that gather energy vulnerable to attacks? I think Itachi would notice such weakness and take advantage dont you think? And as far as taijutsu goes, like i posted earlier wasn't Edo Itachi = Biju Mode Naruto? Nope he took on Nine Tails Chakra Mode Naruto. Who doesn't seem as tough as SM Naruto really just faster he never really showed decent strength besides chakra arms I think Itachi's speed, precog and Naruto's lack off Taijutsu skill were what had Itachi fighting on par with him mostly. Jiraiya is a lot more skillful and experienced than Naruto. Also the toads are in Sage Mode too and on his shoulders so they're not really vulnerable, they can just close their eyes to avoid Genjutsu. Pretty sure that unless they were doing combo's their eyes were closed anyway just like how Naruto closes his to focus. I'm sure if one were killed that would screw Jiraiya over but Itachi doesn't really have a way to take them out. Jiraiya is only really limited by his chakra here not a time limit if he gets too low he won't be able to maintain SM. But Itachi can't fight forever, Sasuke went nearly blind extremely fast after using Susano'o and Amaterasu a few times
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+ Majin Vegeta	Oct 26 2014, 10:52 PM Post #10
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Doesnt really change much though, Naruto with nine tails chakra is definently faster than Sage Mode, he has feats like dodging the Raikage's fastest punch something only Minato has managed, Tsunade was even impessed Naruto at this form could keep up with the Raikage, also he has strengh feats to, i believe Naruto would use Sage Mode if it was better. If Itachi can handle that Naruto then he could also handle an unperfected Sage Mode Jiraya at taijutsu, at least thats only my opinion.
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TheACE	Oct 27 2014, 12:47 AM Post #11
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	I always wondered if we really got everything that Jiraiya was capable of. Itachi hesitated to fight him during the Itachi Uchiha arc in season 4 of Naruto. Of course, given current revelations, it might have been out of respect or possibly because Itachi was one of Jiraiya's informants. It would be some fight to watch, I'd slightly edge it out to Jiraiya though just because he'd likely be able to resist Itachi's Genjutsu. He's probably got some weird Toad dimension sealing technique specifically made for Uchiha knowing him.
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+ Steve	Oct 27 2014, 12:59 AM Post #12
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Orochimaru Oct 26 2014, 10:52 PM Doesnt really change much though, Naruto with nine tails chakra is definently faster than Sage Mode, he has feats like dodging the Raikage's fastest punch something only Minato has managed, Tsunade was even impessed Naruto at this form could keep up with the Raikage, also he has strengh feats to, i believe Naruto would use Sage Mode if it was better. If Itachi can handle that Naruto then he could also handle an unperfected Sage Mode Jiraya at taijutsu, at least thats only my opinion. Yeah but speed ain't all that if you lack the power to defeat your opponent Itachi is one of the fastest characters and has the Sharingan which means he can take on characters much faster than him the same way Sasuke took Naruto on in Part I. The reason he used Sage Mode for the Third Raikage was most likely due to the offensive boost it provides. Sage Mode remains relevant because it gives him better physical attributes NTCM is just speed and reserves no defence or physical might. That he sprained his ankle upon activating it shows he's not nearly as durable in SM he fell off a mountain on to spikes and was totally fine. SM Naruto vs Itachi in Taijutsu would be a different story blocking his hits would mean getting whatever he blocked them with broken, even though Naruto probably isn't faster than Itachi in that mode or at least not by that much. Same with Jiraiya his hits would be too hard for Itachi to block he'd need Susano'o right away to stand a chance. Also NTCM has more of a travelling speed than fighting it more or less makes him run faster than completely move faster. I mean we've never seen him blitz someone and go all DBZ with punches on them when with his kind of speed he should be able to or like throw multiple kunai extremely fast. Nor did we see him take out any White Zetsu's with anything but chakra arms and Rasengan's, suggests that he lacks the physical power to just punch their heads off and conserve energy.
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Mihawk	Oct 27 2014, 01:47 AM Post #13
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	If you go by the anime then Jiraiya and Itachi are equals, where Jiraiya has a slight edge. Manga wise people make the excuse that Itachi didn't want to hurt anyone from Konoha so he decided to run away (or he got weaker from using ameterasu on Sasauke earlier). I guess you can argue based on what Kisame said (paraphrasing) "why do you have to run away", implying that Itachi should be able to take Jiraiya. I personally see it as somewhat of a toss up. Starting Jiraiya in sage mode gives him a decent edge against Itachi, while restoring Itachi's vision gives some unprecedented wildcard which is anyone's guess. Personally would give the edge to Itachi for being able to spam all the mangyeko techs.



+ Steve	Oct 27 2014, 10:28 AM Post #14
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	wolffanghameha Oct 27 2014, 01:47 AM If you go by the anime then Jiraiya and Itachi are equals, where Jiraiya has a slight edge. Manga wise people make the excuse that Itachi didn't want to hurt anyone from Konoha so he decided to run away (or he got weaker from using ameterasu on Sasauke earlier). I guess you can argue based on what Kisame said (paraphrasing) "why do you have to run away", implying that Itachi should be able to take Jiraiya. I personally see it as somewhat of a toss up. Starting Jiraiya in sage mode gives him a decent edge against Itachi, while restoring Itachi's vision gives some unprecedented wildcard which is anyone's guess. Personally would give the edge to Itachi for being able to spam all the mangyeko techs. I don't think they'd be that useful really Genjutsu wouldn't work and with Sage Mode Amaterasu wouldn't hit. Susano'o seems to limit movement either at least at Itachi's stage so he couldn't blitz over and get some swings in. I feel Jiraiya is far more equipped with techniques and experience to take on Uchiha's than most characters it's a shame that was never really utilized.
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+ supersaqer	Oct 27 2014, 02:38 PM Post #15
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Steve Oct 27 2014, 10:28 AM wolffanghameha Oct 27 2014, 01:47 AM If you go by the anime then Jiraiya and Itachi are equals, where Jiraiya has a slight edge. Manga wise people make the excuse that Itachi didn't want to hurt anyone from Konoha so he decided to run away (or he got weaker from using ameterasu on Sasauke earlier). I guess you can argue based on what Kisame said (paraphrasing) "why do you have to run away", implying that Itachi should be able to take Jiraiya. I personally see it as somewhat of a toss up. Starting Jiraiya in sage mode gives him a decent edge against Itachi, while restoring Itachi's vision gives some unprecedented wildcard which is anyone's guess. Personally would give the edge to Itachi for being able to spam all the mangyeko techs. I don't think they'd be that useful really Genjutsu wouldn't work and with Sage Mode Amaterasu wouldn't hit. Susano'o seems to limit movement either at least at Itachi's stage so he couldn't blitz over and get some swings in. I feel Jiraiya is far more equipped with techniques and experience to take on Uchiha's than most characters it's a shame that was never really utilized. Did Jiraya's imperfect Susanoo have sensing? I don't really remember, but I doubt it. He was taken by surprise times in that fight. Genjutsu would work, it is that it wouldn't last very long. If any of the toads were genjutsu'd, he could use that as a chance to genjutsu the other toad, and then Jiraya would drop out of Sage Mode. Tsukuyomi is also an answer for Itachi to get rid of Jiraya, or the toads if he needed them. He could use Amaterasu, or Yasaka Magatama as an option for offensive. His Susanoo will protect him from attacks. That's why I think Itachi could edge Jiraya in this fight.
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