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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 25 2014, 12:17 AM (1,104 Views) | |
| Daniel | Oct 25 2014, 12:17 AM Post #1 |
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Well I'm sure most of you living in the United States or Canada have heard of the attack on Parliament Hill, a tragedy. For those who haven't, basically an armed gunmen with a rifle shot and killed Canadian Army Reserves soldier who was a ceremonial guard for the Canadian unknown soldier's tomb and then went onto Parliament Hill and opened fire inside before being shot dead by RCMP. No other casualties were reported. The soldier was Corporal Nathan Cirillo, it really sucks a***. Out of all the positions to be in while serving in the military, Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, etc. He gets shot while stationed at a ceremonial guard, according to CF he and his partner were armed by rifles but they were not loaded as it was just a ceremonial position. He wasn't even active duty..was reserves... All though his death was a tragedy it really wasn't something we could prevent, what are we going to do? Put soldiers with assault rifles at our war memorials? What pisses me off is how he actually entered Parliament Hill and got into the corridors just outside of where MP's were having meetings. Their is video footage of him walking in and just shooting randomly without being stopped a good minute or two in. That is ridiculous, it could have been a whole lot worse if it was an hour later all the MP gatherings would have been over and the corridors would have been filled with government officials and surely their would be way more deaths. Their are uniformed security personnel at Parliament Hill, yes. But they are not sworn in as Peace Officers therefore they do not carry firearms. They are basically a paid meat shield with Kevlar. I find that f***ing STUPID, Parliament Hill is the equivalent of the White House, I stood on the fence of the White House to take a picture and a sniper barked orders at me telling me to step down. I'm not saying Canada should take equivalent defense measures as the United States, but we should at least have armed officers guarding one of the most important government facilities, should we not? Yes, their are armed plain clothes RCMP officers in Parliament Hill (usually one armed agent per every three guards), however they are not stationed at entrances they are mostly inside and a couple are outside in civilian clothing. This man walked in through a main entrance, which was guarded by two UNARMED security guards, if they had firearms the situation would have ended there. This is like guarding the White House entrance with a rent-a-cop, at least the rent a cop has a gun. Security guards don't. That is ridiculous and a very big hole in security. The Minister of Defense says that they are now thinking about putting uniformed RCMP Officers in place of the security guards in light of recent events. THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. As for the suspect, according to the FBI he's just a loser with a gun who managed to shoot a soldier dead. But CSIS and the RCMP says he is one of the 90 Canadians who have been under surveillance for possible ties to ISIS. He had his passport frozen as well, but had recently applied for permission to go Syria. I personally do think it is ISIS's response to Canadians sending fighter jets to assist with French and American bombings, (which was pointless imo considering F-22s and F-18s have air superiority over our aging CF-18 fleet). Also just last week a Canadian Army Chief Warrant Officer was killed in a vehicle hit and run just outside of his base. The suspect was also believed to be related to ISIS, so I think this is ISIS's response to Canadian military action. Just my two cents, Any thoughts? |
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| + Pelador | Oct 25 2014, 01:27 AM Post #2 |
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Obviously a tragedy. I just hope that every nutjob who goes on a gun rampage isn't immediately assumed to be isis. That's what they want. People cowering in fear of them, wondering when they will be hit next. Instead we have to make them look stupid, weak and incompetent. You can't do that by being afraid of them. He's not the first unarmed soldier to be killed in his own country by extremists. Two radicals in the UK hacked a soldier to death with machetes outside his barracks many months ago. I think they might have been Boco Harem. Which by the way are still kidnapping girls in Africa. We wouldn't have these barbarians if a couple of countries could sort their s*** out. |
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| + Yusuke | Oct 25 2014, 06:17 AM Post #3 |
 
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What really gets to me is how this guy was able to get passed all security and the RCMP. In any case, these acts are just nonsensical. People who do this or have something against the country probably shouldn't even be here in the first place. Why a sane person would want to give up their Canadian citizenship to join a group like ISIL is way beyond my comprehension. |
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| Rockman | Oct 25 2014, 08:42 AM Post #4 |
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And the very next day, a man jumps the white house fence in DC only to be stopped dead in his tracks by the jaws of a Malinois. What does this say about the complacency of the security force in Canada, and how safe they all thought they were. Did the world trade center not teach the rest of the world something? |
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| Graffiti | Oct 25 2014, 10:09 AM Post #5 |
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Truely a tragedy it is, being a Canadian myself. But yeah you are right about people just assuming them to be ISIS? I'm not gonna lie i did assume the gunmen to be ISIS members, due to the fact that Canada joined the coalition against ISIS, so ISIS is probably pissed off.
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| Daemon Keido | Oct 25 2014, 10:20 AM Post #6 |
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There has been no direct link to this attack and ISIS, unless you want to count the alleged tweet ISIS made calling for independant citizens around the world to commit "lone-wolf" attacks, specifically targeting soldiers and politicians. |
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| Mc Esse | Oct 25 2014, 02:32 PM Post #7 |
 
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Somewhere in the USA people are looking down on us. As crazy as I think you Americans are (sorry guys). This would have never happened in the USA. It's actually a miracle no more than 4 people got wounded. The shooter rifle was not proper for run and gun, that why he was downed so quickly. God bless the American homeland security system. Next step, make some travel bans to West Africa please. *the saddest thing is that the army is discouraging troops from wearing uniform outside of their regiment.. |
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| Rockman | Oct 25 2014, 07:27 PM Post #8 |
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Looking down on you no. Saying we told you so, yes. Canada has become peacefully complacent thinking that nothing could go wrong up there. Terrorists of any kind would never strike Canada. Right... And on that day, Canada was given a grim reminder that their liberal society isn't quite as safe as they thought it was. |
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| + Steve | Oct 25 2014, 07:43 PM Post #9 |
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A lot of people seem to forget that 9/11 was a win for terrorists because it changed the world purely through fear. That's the point of terrorism being scared is them winning, there should just be propaganda about how dumb terrorists are. Make a cartoon about Uncle Sam killing terrorists with a minigun that shoots Desert Eagle's that also shoot actual eagles, MURICA Instead everyone's just left to panic and think every gunshot is a terrorist when it's most likely just some scumbag. That hit and run thing doesn't sound very terrorist-y that was probably just some idiot who realized how much s*** they'd be in if they got caught. In a sense terrorists have helped people see reality but everyone still creeps back in to thinking they'll be safe forever. I don't get why all the special forces aren't just called in to deal with these ISIS guys just go send some SAS and Black Ops dudes in not grunts. |
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| + Pelador | Oct 25 2014, 07:46 PM Post #10 |
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They probably do. That's how Bin Laden got killed. We won't hear about any of the operations for decades. |
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| Mc Esse | Oct 25 2014, 08:55 PM Post #11 |
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Actually they were reminded 2 days before that day. Read this story quickly. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/montreal/martin-rouleau-quebec-driver-shot-by-police-radicalized-rcmp-1.2806104 How many more of this should we endure before it goes to a macro-level  scary stuff.
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| + Pelador | Oct 25 2014, 09:01 PM Post #12 |
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Probably won't happen again for a long while. I don't think this is something we should go crazy about. Obviously step up security measures but lets not go overboard. It was one crazy person with a gun, not an attempted coup or a riot. |
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| SSJSC | Oct 26 2014, 12:52 AM Post #13 |
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No one should be owning a firearm unless they're licensed or registered for one. Terrorists are probably people who can carry a firearm, but use it in the wrong way once it's on their hands. These psychopaths who are attacking Canada do not have a clue of what's a better way to appease with people than to start a war.
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| Master Gohan | Oct 26 2014, 02:39 AM Post #14 |
 
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If you hop the fence of the white house, you deserve anything you have coming. Thats an idiotic move. Unless it's a kid, they deserve it. |
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| + Yusuke | Oct 26 2014, 03:17 PM Post #15 |
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The White House isn't opened to the public? Or is it just one particular area that's inaccessible? As far as the topic is concerned, we need to make sure things like these don't happen but at the same time we can't get parnoid about everything and do some stupid things like enforce unnecessary laws. You all need to remember that this was a lone wolf incident and not a group takeover. That's not to say we shouldn't be concerned about the former of course but that goes without saying. |
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