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Piccolo vs Android 17
Topic Started: Oct 2 2014, 01:19 AM (1,978 Views)
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I always think of this


Piccolo - 700
#17 - 650


The android was a bit weaker than him

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If the fight kept on going Android 17 would have win, he himself stated Piccolo's energy was running low wile his was in tact. Piccolo could win if he got #17 with his light grenade.
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17 said that Piccolo was getting tired, whereas he would not. Keep in mind, while 17 was fast, Piccolo stated that 17's punches weren't enough to put him down. And to prove this wasn't hearsay, he said it AFTER he tanked them all. The only hard edge the teenage Android had against the Super Namek was the defense his shield provided him. That and just because 17 wasn't running out of energy, that doesn't mean he wasn't taking damage. He was just as beat up as Piccolo, and obviously not at optimal efficiency, otherwise the second that Piccolo's energy dropped, 17 would have dropped a Power Blitz and atomized the great green giant. In the end, I think Super Namek Piccolo dismantles our favorite Android.
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Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P5-7
Piccolo: "Your speed is pretty good...But your punch lacks weight."
No.17: "What? Say, who do you think you're talking to? I'm Android No.17, the strongest in history..."

Chapter: 368 (DBZ 174), P14.3
Context: after fighting merged Piccolo for a long time
No.17: "Heh. Even if our power is on par, it looks like a gap is starting to open up between our stamina...My energy is infinite, and never falls..."

Piccolo just say's it lacks weight, if Piccolo's stamina gets low then eventualy he would fall by those lack of weight punches, plus Android 17 states there power is equal and also implies if the fight kept up like it was he would win.
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Oh that is the clumsiest translation I've ever heard. Really milord? What does "lack weight" mean?

Also there isn't a word in there that equates power to stamina. Power is force, stamina is energy.sll he says is that his energy is infinite. He's just not gonna get tired man. So In a very long fight perhaps, but the only way he puts Piccolo down is via exhaustion. Besides, 17 isn't a model with energy senors, I don't think. 16 had everything calc'd to a T. 17's math doesn't seem as strong.
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Lol, that's herm's strengh checker.

Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P12.4-6
Context: after Trunks says Vegeta seems to be doing OK fighting No.18
Piccolo: "Vegeta's going to be killed... Watch...Bit by bit, the android is starting to push him back. It's because his enemy's power never falls at all, while Vegeta's stamina falls the more he moves."

I agree with you that power is different than stamina, what i was saying is that exactly the androids have an advantage in an equal battle, Piccolo could hot keep on fighting on this intensity forever like Android 17 said, and neither can Piccolo put him down unless he uses light grenade hench my first post.
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17 is a dumbass when it comes to calculating power. He thought he could kill Cell just because 16 blasted him
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Piccolo might win if he outsmart 17.
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Nov 5 2014, 08:17 PM
17 is a dumbass when it comes to calculating power. He thought he could kill Cell just because 16 blasted him

He calculated stamina not power.
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Nov 6 2014, 07:15 AM
Piccolo might win if he outsmart 17.

Yes, if he somehow manages to catch Android 17 at his light grenade Piccolo definently wins this.
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I think Piccolo expected to have enough in the tank to kill 17 in a fight, and then light grenade 18 + 16. As we know, 16 would have tanked it. It was becoming apparent that straight up 1v1 Piccolo was going to get tired and lose. I think he would have caught 17 with a last ditch light grenade, and then put up a bit of a fight with 18 before getting killed.

Actually, something just occurred to me that I never thought of before. We can also factor in that if 18 or 16 tried to jump in, Tien could have pinned them down. So I say Piccolo kills 17 with a light grenade, Tien pins 18 + 16 until exhaustion, but 16 eventually kills them both.
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Tien's kikoho only worked because he caught Cell completly off guard if he jumbs in then either 18 or 16 would oneshot him, kikoho won't be able to hold on both androids. Piccolo could kill Android 17 with light grenade but he would never manageto get any further than that.
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