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14 year old faces 2 year sentence for "desecrating" a Jesus statue; Only in 'Murica
Topic Started: Sep 27 2014, 12:08 AM (703 Views)
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A 14 year old boy posed "provocatively" with a statue of a praying Jesus, and faces a 2 year sentence for it in juvenile detention.

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I have a feeling that if this wasn't a statue of a Christian figure, this kid wouldn't be looked at twice.

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It has nothing to do with it being a Jesus statue. A scout leader almost went to jail for moving an old rock
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Sep 27 2014, 12:14 AM
It has nothing to do with it being a Jesus statue. A scout leader almost went to jail for moving an old rock
I think it has a lot to do with it being Jesus actually.

So stupid. If someone did that to a Buddha statue or something, nobody would really care.

Moments like these are why I despise religion.
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Sep 27 2014, 12:14 AM
It has nothing to do with it being a Jesus statue. A scout leader almost went to jail for moving an old rock
I know exactly what you're talking about because I remember that story. It was in a national park somewhere, and it's a Federal offense to deliberately destroy government land. That's a federal law.

This Jesus statue isn't property of the Federal Government, therefore it's not the same thing.
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It's has everything to do with it being a statie of jesus. Of course it has.
America is starting to look more and more like a Middle Eastern country. This is just a kid who did something stupid, It's what kids do.
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Sep 27 2014, 07:21 AM
It's has everything to do with it being a statie of jesus. Of course it has.
America is starting to look more and more like a Middle Eastern country. This is just a kid who did something stupid, It's what kids do.
I agree. There's pics online of girls posing with those seated statues of Ronald McDonald that no one bats an eye at.

I guess for this story, there's a recent development. This whole thing happened in Pennsylvania, but the Federal Government is apparently looking into the law that the kid broke to see if it's unconstitutional. The Supreme Court can overturn it if it is.
I guess the Jesus statue is state property, but that alone may violate the First Amendment.

The First Amendment of the Constitution states that the government isn't supposed to promote one religion. (It's a common misconception that they're not supposed to promote religion at all).
They can promote religion all they want, as long as they don't favor one religion over all others.
So if the state has only used money to erect Christian symbols or have policies against funding other religions, than this statue is unconstitutional.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Pennsylvania has only funded Christian religion.

I don't live in Pennsylvania, but I know it's a highly religious state for a Northern state. For example, I know for a fact that they're one of the eight or nine states which bans Atheists from holding public office.
So this law doesn't surprise me at all. I'm just hoping that the Supreme Court sees that this could potentially be unconstitutional, therefore the kid will not be sentenced.
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If it wasn't Jesus, this wouldn't of been a problem. People do this to statutes constantly and don't get anything for it. It's just because someone got their feelings hurt and they wanted something done about it.
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If they got a fine, I could understand because it causes distress to others and is disrespectful, the same would no doubt happen if someone did it to a war memorial statue. You do have to add some context, no one worships or respects the character "Ronald McDonald" so why would anyone care? So respect to others beliefs even of you might not agree, it's called being a decent person. The kid was a moron, no doubt, the sentence is also a little harsh, as above, a fine would have sufficed.
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Sep 27 2014, 03:59 AM


So stupid. If someone did that to a Buddha statue or something, nobody would really care.
I would care. What did Buddha ever do to them?
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This is just ridiculous...

It's not cool to disrespect their faith like that, of course but actual jail time?

Maybe if he also broke it or threw it through a church window.


He should have been told off and perhaps banned from the premises. Or ask Jesus if he even gives a s***, the kid wasn't struck by lightning I'm guessing not, doubt it even looks remotely like Jesus.

At best a little community service so that he might not be such a d*** in future.
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Oct 1 2014, 05:57 AM
If they got a fine, I could understand because it causes distress to others and is disrespectful, the same would no doubt happen if someone did it to a war memorial statue. You do have to add some context, no one worships or respects the character "Ronald McDonald" so why would anyone care? So respect to others beliefs even of you might not agree, it's called being a decent person. The kid was a moron, no doubt, the sentence is also a little harsh, as above, a fine would have sufficed.
I don't agree with the "little harsh" statement because I find the two year sentence in Juvie to be utterly ridiculous.

I do agree however that he should be punished either with a fine or community service.
However, my main beef is the fact that stuff like this is not consistent.
The US is a nation with a high population of Christians, a faith which that religion's values have seeped into government policies, even though our country was founded on the principle that no one religion is supposed to be prioritized over any others, and people aren't supposed to be discriminated against if their beliefs differ from the majority's (of course, this privilege is waived if their belief is hurting someone else or putting them in danger).

Everyone in the US knows the US was not founded on Christian belief, but usually the flag and the Bible go hand-in-hand, and anyone who isn't Christian is stigmatized as "un-American".
That's beginning to change now, but the Christians in power are fighting like hell to keep it a "Christian Nation". They're crying oppression when they're the ones doing the oppressing.
Just recently, the Republican Mike Hukabee (running for the 2016 election) said that he believes that any government employee who does not believe in a higher power should be fired immediately.

Not only is this simply a d*ck move, but it's also 100% completely illegal. President Lyndon B Johnson signed in an executive order in 1968 which strictly prohibits employers in the US from discriminating against employees based on religious belief, amongst many other things like ethnicity and nationality.
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The Bible says you're not suppose to value statues anyways so I'm not offended much. I could see why a lot would be offended though especially Catholics. However vandalism is vandalism and I think the kid should get some community service time. A 2 year sentence in my opinion is bulls*** however. Way too much.
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Oct 1 2014, 12:37 PM
I don't agree with the "little harsh" statement because I find the two year sentence in Juvie to be utterly ridiculous.
This is just plain old nitpicking at words, it doesn't matter what word I use "little harsh" still means I disagree with the decision, as much as "completely out of this world stupidity!", there is no need to say you disagree when I'm not disagreeing in the first place...
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I don't agree with the "little harsh" statement because I find the two year sentence in Juvie to be utterly ridiculous.
This is just plain old nitpicking at words, it doesn't matter what word I use "little harsh" still means I disagree with the decision, as much as "completely out of this world stupidity!", there is no need to say you disagree when I'm not disagreeing in the first place...
I don't mean to nitpick, but I figure in this case, it would matter since it would reflect your opinion on this kid's life potentially being ruined by this sentencing of something that may or may not be unconstitutional.
It could be just me though because this subject of Christian favoritism and minority discrimination is a profound problem in the US lately, and I realize that you're not from here.

This could affect his future in terms of schooling an employment.
I just think that saying a "little bit harsh" of a punishment is completely different from saying it's "utterly ridiculous".

I don't really like American bacon, but that's totally different from saying I hate it... like I hate spaghetti.
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