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Is life harder if you aren't white?
Topic Started: Sep 15 2014, 10:30 PM (2,088 Views)
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Sep 18 2014, 05:31 PM
While KP is right on the fact that some people do discriminate against white people, it's a percentage that is far far far far far far far far far (See where I am going with this?) lower than the number of white people who discriminate against minorities.
This is a point I haven't argued against in the slightest, despite my personal beliefs. All I said was that it does happen, unlike what others think. To argue that it doesn't happen is foolish bliss...or brainwashing. :o_O:
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Let's lower the aggressiveness of the thread guys. I don't wanna toss out any warns here.
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That's what I've been trying to say this whole time.
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We're not arguing against each other, then. I just figured your "not really" comment equated to "I don't think that happens."

But whatever. We seem to be on the correct page now.
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in terms of workplace, im sure it varies by region -- e.g., a south-asian employer in a south-asian dominant community in england might discriminate against minorities (including white people since they would be a minority in that place) when it comes to hiring ppl or whatever.

socially, i find a few obstacles even in a place a multicultural as london. people just have their own prejudice and place stereotypes on you before you even start talking to them.
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This is a point I haven't argued against in the slightest, despite my personal beliefs. All I said was that it does happen, unlike what others think. To argue that it doesn't happen is foolish bliss...or brainwashing.

I realize, but you seemed so into being devil's advocate that it was borderline.
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Sep 18 2014, 07:10 PM
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This is a point I haven't argued against in the slightest, despite my personal beliefs. All I said was that it does happen, unlike what others think. To argue that it doesn't happen is foolish bliss...or brainwashing.

I realize, but you seemed so into being devil's advocate that it was borderline.
Did you want me to keep going further into that territory? I kind of wanted to but I realized some of my beliefs are not "politically correct" nor what the majority on here believes, so I dunno, man...

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Non-white people have a way easier time getting into university in the US.
I think it's worth noting more whites get into college because they've had an easier path (NOT ALL OF THEM. JUST SPEAKING IN GENERAL) and a lot colleges are want a more culturally diverse atmosphere. So if a female with Mexican descent and a white male have the same grades they'll take the black girl because they assumed she had a rougher path and of course they want the diversity.

So I guess in that aspect minorities who succeed in school have somewhat of an advantage when it comes to enrollment but that's only a minor aspect.
I think it should also be noted that even if whites get accepted to colleges more, it's generally much harder for whites to secure financial assistance. This also goes for welfare and foodstamps as well. This is why most whites don't have more than one or two kids (albeit the non-stop breeding Duggar family, of whom are an exception).

So even if it seems that whites are more privileged with finances, that in itself is a double-edged sword. On average, it's more expensive for whites to have large families, because of the fact that they are less likely to get financial or government assistance than minorities.
To prove this, why do you think they ask what race you are on these applications for assistance?

I will agree however that most blacks live in cities, of which inner-city schools there aren't necessarily known for their educational prowess, putting the general black and other minority population at a disadvantage from the start. However, I figure that if a black man like Neil deGrasse Tyson can go from growing up in the city to becoming one of the greatest astrophysicists in modern history, than I don't put a lot of warrant into blacks having a general disadvantage in life. With the access that we have to information now via the internet, it's hard to believe that anyone can have a disadvantage when it comes to education in the US.
With this in mind, someone's direction and advancement in life is entirely up to them.

That has more to do with demographics than it does with race. It's the same with the prison population. Since there are more cops in cities, more strict laws, and more people live in cities (of whom simply happen to be black), there's a higher likelihood of getting caught for doing crime.

Are blacks more violent or crime prone than whites? Probably not.
But due to the general locations in which blacks live, demographics alone make them more likely to be arrested for doing crime since there are generally more laws in those locations and there are more people to commit these crimes.
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i think talking about all that s*** is just a red herring. there are many other facets of living and life in general than the workplace and getting financial assistance from the government.

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However, I figure that if a black man like Neil deGrasse Tyson can go from growing up in the city to becoming one of the greatest astrophysicists in modern history, than I don't put a lot of warrant into blacks having a general disadvantage in life. With the access that we have to information now via the internet, it's hard to believe that anyone can have a disadvantage when it comes to education in the US.
that's one man, bro. plus using him as an example works against ur argument. the guy's in his mid-50s now and i can't even imagine how difficult it must've been for him to reach this point of his career in a white-dominated field. just because he's all big and successful doesnt mean he had no challenges to overcome. plus his parents were academics as well, so it isn't difficult to assume that his upbringing and quality of life as a child was far better than other black ppl's. actually, even with that little headstart in life (his parents being academics or w/e) im sure he still had plenty of obstacles to overcome just because of the colour of his skin.
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I think it should also be noted that even if whites get accepted to colleges more, it's generally much harder for whites to secure financial assistance. This also goes for welfare and foodstamps as well. This is why most whites don't have more than one or two kids (albeit the non-stop breeding Duggar family, of whom are an exception).

Just to note, the main thing to look for is acceptance rates based on equivalent resumes. Just saying whites (I really hate using this term and the other) get into college more is really pointless as whites get into prison more. Since the population is so much more, the stats will naturally be skewed.

Kinda like when feminists complain that there are unfair hiring practices in engineering departments due to the fact that there are so little women in the field. That has more to do with 1 in 20 applications actually being female, but the stats always tell a different tale.

I still insist that positive discrimination should no longer fetch based on ethnicity or gender; instead go for a more hardcore route of income and other demographics.

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Peeps won't stop carin' about race until the government stops giving 'em benefits because of it. Native Americans, for instance, essentially get free money from the government (so long as they can prove they're at least partially NA); my roommate gets a good sum every year and you wouldn't think he's anything but hwhite. Them whiteys don't get that privilege, I suppose.

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Maybe not, but they've received far more privileges overall for centuries.
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Race traitor!

More or less, maybe, debatable. But I generally hate this "well, you f***ed us up the a*** 200 years ago so we're going to need reparations for...about the rest of mankind, kthx" mentality. Why can't anyone get over it? How will it progress if it's being hung over everyone's heads like a sticky note written in blood? Jeez. :T_T:

It's like the holocaust. People are still getting reparations nearly 70 years after it ended, and not just the people that survived it (hate that word in this case), but descendants of descendants of descendants that had nothing to really do with it. No.
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Probably because sexism and racism still very much exist.
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Letting it go would prolly do some good. Freddy can't hurt you if you forget about him.

For those that couldn't tell, that was a not-so-sneaky message right there...not spam. Don't misunderstand. :/
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