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Kid Krillin vs Spopovich
Topic Started: Sep 4 2014, 11:09 PM (4,478 Views)
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That doesn't make it magic. It's like a boomerang. That or it's magnetically attracted to that spot on her helmet. There's no evidnce to suggest that it's magic in anyway. Plus she's never seen using any other forum of magic. The only think special about her gear that can't be explained simply is the beam from her forehead, though that's just a simple blast of ki.

I didn't say it was magic, I said it was controlled by some other means having to do with the hat, which it was, and a boomerang would come back, but not go right back to its spot on her head. The fact that the helmet also shoots a laser shows that it's a special hat.

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Yamcha and Goku fought pretty evenly, and Krillin seemed to be in the range of Goku during their training with Roshi, so it makes sense that they all are capable of similar feats to Goku. Neither Yamcha or Krillin got the "tar beaten out of them" by Goku, with Yamcha fighting evenly, or even being able to win possibly, and Krillin never even fighting Goku. Even in Yamcha and Goku's second fight, it wasn't a huge stomp or anything.

Krillin was no where in the range of Goku, being amazed by almost everything Goku did, and he did fight him and did get the tar beaten out of him.
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In Yamcha's second fight he got stomped and his tooth knocked out his mouth.

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While I will admit I was wrong about him not knowing they were cops, my other point still stands. How would Krillin know that he had bullet level durability? It's not like getting shot at was part of his training at Orin Temple. That's ridiculous.

Still got to say that's a really weak argument.

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But, they do have the feats to. Asd I have shown they are all at bullet level durability most likely, and Videl got pierced by a bullet in BoG. Plus at least for Yamcha, the fact that he was able to take one hits by Goku's Rock Scissors and Paper technique, it shows that he could withstand anything that Videl could throw at him.

You haven't shown anything that even suggests they are all at bullet level durability, and the fact that Krillin was scared of those guys with guns shows that he wasn't. Also that was Goku hungry, which we have no idea how much he was weakened, that Yamcha was only knocked down by his move. Also you act as if someone much weaker can't take a hit from someone much stronger, have you not seen every single fight in DB where they fight a much stronger opponent? They survive every hit, also it's not like Yamcha wasn't affected by the hit, he was put on his a*** while Goku almost had no power.
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We're arguing about Yamcha, right?
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As you can clearly see, she picked up the blade and threw it. It didn't just float off her head. It's a normal blade besides that fact that it's magnetically attracted to that specific part of her helmet. Or it could just be that it's a manga and not everything's realistic. Either way, it doesn't have any special properties.

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I highly doubt that was a regular blade, that'd make Chi Chi stronger than Goku.
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Sep 6 2014, 05:41 PM
Why would he be bringing up anyone else but Yamcha to prove Yamcha could do it. Also, Goku alone did it. Chi Chi was running away terrified of the Dinosaur, obviously inferior to it, and then killed it with her super weapons that even Master Roshi was too slow to dodge/block. Also there's no evidence that Yamcha is equal to Krillin. But if so, Krillin was scared of 2 guys with guns when they were saving Launch, while the police, who all have guns, look to Videl for help while she has no gun. So Videl > BoDB Kriilin.
This is just bad logic. Videl is easilly susceptible to guns which is shown in Battle of the Gods.

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So he has better durability than her at least since taking bullets to the head barley made him bleed.


And when Videl could dodge and one hit KO a sabertooth tiger who surprised attacked her from point blank then we'll talk but for now she has no advantage over BoDB Krillin other than flight.
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I highly doubt that was a regular blade, that'd make Chi Chi stronger than Goku.


I don't think so. Using a blade in the Dragon Ball universe seems to bypass durability to a certain extent (with the exception of Goku tanking an ax to the head) like when he faced Ninja Murasaki and Mercenary Tao. Despite being bulletproof Goku still had to dodge attacks from swords. Chi Chi's blades could be normal by Dragon Ball standards.
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Sep 6 2014, 05:41 PM
Why would he be bringing up anyone else but Yamcha to prove Yamcha could do it. Also, Goku alone did it. Chi Chi was running away terrified of the Dinosaur, obviously inferior to it, and then killed it with her super weapons that even Master Roshi was too slow to dodge/block. Also there's no evidence that Yamcha is equal to Krillin. But if so, Krillin was scared of 2 guys with guns when they were saving Launch, while the police, who all have guns, look to Videl for help while she has no gun. So Videl > BoDB Kriilin.
This is just bad logic. Videl is easilly susceptible to guns which is shown in Battle of the Gods.

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That's an obvious gag scene lol. Look at Roshi's head, some of the bullets went right through his skull, it might be the same case for Krillin too and we just can't see. There's no way that scene can be taken serious if Roshi is still alive, functioning and completely healthy by the next page after taking 2 bullets through his brain.

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I don't think so. Using a blade in the Dragon Ball universe seems to bypass durability to a certain extent (with the exception of Goku tanking an ax to the head) like when he faced Ninja Murasaki and Mercenary Tao. Despite being bulletproof Goku still had to dodge attacks from swords. Chi Chi's blades could be normal by Dragon Ball standards.

Well it still means that Chi Chi doesn't need to be strong at all for the blade to slice the dinosaur :P That's all I was trying to say.
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Sep 7 2014, 12:42 AM
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Sep 6 2014, 05:41 PM
Why would he be bringing up anyone else but Yamcha to prove Yamcha could do it. Also, Goku alone did it. Chi Chi was running away terrified of the Dinosaur, obviously inferior to it, and then killed it with her super weapons that even Master Roshi was too slow to dodge/block. Also there's no evidence that Yamcha is equal to Krillin. But if so, Krillin was scared of 2 guys with guns when they were saving Launch, while the police, who all have guns, look to Videl for help while she has no gun. So Videl > BoDB Kriilin.
This is just bad logic. Videl is easilly susceptible to guns which is shown in Battle of the Gods.

And Krillin
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So he has better durability than her at least since taking bullets to the head barley made him bleed.

And when Videl could dodge and one hit KO a sabertooth tiger who surprised attacked her from point blank then we'll talk but for now she has no advantage over BoDB Krillin other than flight.
The other poster mentioned gag parts. THAT is a gag. Such as where did Launch get that gun, and where did it suddenly go after she shot. Krillin and Roshi have bleeding holes in their heads, yet they are gone in the next panel. Launch constantly shoots but has never actually killed anyone. This is a clear gag and not to be taken seriously.

Also Videl takes down criminals with guns all the time. That more than shows her ability to beat a tiger.
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Sep 6 2014, 05:41 PM
Why would he be bringing up anyone else but Yamcha to prove Yamcha could do it. Also, Goku alone did it. Chi Chi was running away terrified of the Dinosaur, obviously inferior to it, and then killed it with her super weapons that even Master Roshi was too slow to dodge/block. Also there's no evidence that Yamcha is equal to Krillin. But if so, Krillin was scared of 2 guys with guns when they were saving Launch, while the police, who all have guns, look to Videl for help while she has no gun. So Videl > BoDB Kriilin.
This is just bad logic. Videl is easilly susceptible to guns which is shown in Battle of the Gods.

And Krillin
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That's an obvious gag scene lol. Look at Roshi's head, some of the bullets went right through his skull, it might be the same case for Krillin too and we just can't see. There's no way that scene can be taken serious if Roshi is still alive, functioning and completely healthy by the next page after taking 2 bullets through his brain.
I know it was in response to the gag when Goku punched Yamcha so hard that he hit/broke a panel. (even though Goku did beat Yamcha fairly)

At worst they have the same durability.

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Also Videl takes down criminals with guns all the time. That more than shows her ability to beat a tiger.


What? We see her fight criminals once and they refused to use their guns and tried to take her barehanded. By the time one of them actually tried to use his gun Gohan had to step in to save her.
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Other than that we have no idea how her crime fighting escapades went down. Videl has no physical feats that enables her to surpass Krillin at all.
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I know it was in response to the gag when Goku punched Yamcha so hard that he hit/broke a panel. (even though Goku did beat Yamcha fairly)

At worst they have the same durability.


I don't know who you're talking about but I never brought up durability.

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What? We see her fight criminals once and they refused to use their guns and tried to take her barehanded. By the time one of them actually tried to use his gun Gohan had to step in to save her.
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Other than that we have no idea how her crime fighting escapades went down. Videl has no physical feats that enables her to surpass Krillin at all.


Krillin is scared of guys with guns. The police, who all have guns themselves, actually call Videl's phone to help them apprehend criminals (who more than likely also have guns). It's pretty clear Videl > Krillin.
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What? We see her fight criminals once and they refused to use their guns and tried to take her barehanded. By the time one of them actually tried to use his gun Gohan had to step in to save her.
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Other than that we have no idea how her crime fighting escapades went down. Videl has no physical feats that enables her to surpass Krillin at all.


Krillin is scared of guys with guns. The police, who all have guns themselves, actually call Videl's phone to help them apprehend criminals (who more than likely also have guns). It's pretty clear Videl > Krillin.
The reason they call on her is because she is the daughter of the "super powerful" Mr. Satan, who "defeated Cell", and Mr. Satan has said that she is second to him IIRC.

So if Mr. Satan isn't available, it's logical that they would turn to her next.
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Sep 7 2014, 01:21 AM
I don't know who you're talking about but I never brought up durability.
And I never said you did, just that at worst Krillin's durability is as high as Videl, a normal human. Via power-scaling I'd still have him as bulletproof but that's my opinion.

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Krillin is scared of guys with guns. The police, who all have guns themselves, actually call Videl's phone to help them apprehend criminals (who more than likely also have guns). It's pretty clear Videl > Krillin.


No it doesn't. All that shows is that Krillin is more scared than Videl. Hell Krilllin was scared of his old bully until he one-shotted the guy. Videl doesn't have feats that suggest she could take him, all she has is taking on one guy and being saved from being shot by the other guy.

We don't know how she stops crime but we do know that:
a) She's capable of being killed with bullets
b) She has no feats of her dodging bullets in the first place.

Krillin definitely has peak human/superhuman feats:
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8988336&t=8476564

Videl never shown that she could do a standing long jump that would easily shatter world records, Videl had never shown the reaction speed to dodge and immediately one hit KO a Sabertooth. And Videl had never shown to have the running speed to actually give Usain Bolt a decent race, dig into solid earth with her bare-hands, or out swim a shark. These are things Krillin could do before he had gotten stronger through training.

Krillin is practically superhuman at this point. How is Videl, a normal human, supposed to keep up?
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By perfectly logical reasoning?
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Sep 7 2014, 03:28 AM
By perfectly logical reasoning?
Insane speculation is also welcomed but not recommended.
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I don't know who you're talking about but I never brought up durability.
And I never said you did, just that at worst Krillin's durability is as high as Videl, a normal human. Via power-scaling I'd still have him as bulletproof but that's my opinion.

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Krillin is scared of guys with guns. The police, who all have guns themselves, actually call Videl's phone to help them apprehend criminals (who more than likely also have guns). It's pretty clear Videl > Krillin.


No it doesn't. All that shows is that Krillin is more scared than Videl. Hell Krilllin was scared of his old bully until he one-shotted the guy. Videl doesn't have feats that suggest she could take him, all she has is taking on one guy and being saved from being shot by the other guy.

We don't know how she stops crime but we do know that:
a) She's capable of being killed with bullets
b) She has no feats of her dodging bullets in the first place.

Krillin definitely has peak human/superhuman feats:
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8988336&t=8476564

Videl never shown that she could do a standing long jump that would easily shatter world records, Videl had never shown the reaction speed to dodge and immediately one hit KO a Sabertooth. And Videl had never shown to have the running speed to actually give Usain Bolt a decent race, dig into solid earth with her bare-hands, or out swim a shark. These are things Krillin could do before he had gotten stronger through training.

Krillin is practically superhuman at this point. How is Videl, a normal human, supposed to keep up?
Krillin beat the bully after Roshi's training, before that, he was no doubt weaker than the bully, which is how he got bullied by them in the first place, and he called them strong. Something else showing how weak Krillin is, he was bullied by two random no names. Krillin clearly knew he couldn't beat the guys with guns and proceeded to hide behind a rock at their presence, the argument that he was just scared but he really could have easily beaten them is really really bad with zero basis. What we know is, Krillin is terrified of guys with guns, Videl is called upon by guys with guns to handle other guys with guns, thus making her superior to Krillin.
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Sep 7 2014, 03:57 AM
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I don't know who you're talking about but I never brought up durability.
And I never said you did, just that at worst Krillin's durability is as high as Videl, a normal human. Via power-scaling I'd still have him as bulletproof but that's my opinion.

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Krillin is scared of guys with guns. The police, who all have guns themselves, actually call Videl's phone to help them apprehend criminals (who more than likely also have guns). It's pretty clear Videl > Krillin.


No it doesn't. All that shows is that Krillin is more scared than Videl. Hell Krilllin was scared of his old bully until he one-shotted the guy. Videl doesn't have feats that suggest she could take him, all she has is taking on one guy and being saved from being shot by the other guy.

We don't know how she stops crime but we do know that:
a) She's capable of being killed with bullets
b) She has no feats of her dodging bullets in the first place.

Krillin definitely has peak human/superhuman feats:
http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8988336&t=8476564

Videl never shown that she could do a standing long jump that would easily shatter world records, Videl had never shown the reaction speed to dodge and immediately one hit KO a Sabertooth. And Videl had never shown to have the running speed to actually give Usain Bolt a decent race, dig into solid earth with her bare-hands, or out swim a shark. These are things Krillin could do before he had gotten stronger through training.

Krillin is practically superhuman at this point. How is Videl, a normal human, supposed to keep up?
Krillin beat the bully after Roshi's training, before that, he was no doubt weaker than the bully, which is how he got bullied by them in the first place, and he called them strong. Something else showing how weak Krillin is, he was bullied by two random no names. Krillin clearly knew he couldn't beat the guys with guns and proceeded to hide behind a rock at their presence, the argument that he was just scared but he really could have easily beaten them is really really bad with zero basis. What we know is, Krillin is terrified of guys with guns, Videl is called upon by guys with guns to handle other guys with guns, thus making her superior to Krillin.
Considering the argument that was presented by DSTREET, you're gonna need a better rebuttal than that. You need to base your speculations on evidence, or just use evidence.
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