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Did Jesus actually exist?
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+ Pelador	Sep 4 2014, 12:13 PM Post #16
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I hate it when sports people who do that. Thanking God for something which was down to the hard work of everyone else and themselves. Edited by Pelador, Sep 4 2014, 12:13 PM.
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+ Ginyu	Sep 4 2014, 02:09 PM Post #17
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Pelador Sep 4 2014, 12:13 PM I hate it when sports people who do that. Thanking God for something which was down to the hard work of everyone else and themselves. I also don't get it why at a penalty shootout between two South American countries everybody on the bench starts to pray. As if football is a contest on who is the most religious... All your achievements are the result of your own work, and faith alone will not get you anywhere.
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+ Pelador	Sep 4 2014, 02:37 PM Post #18
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	It's pretty selfish to think that God has a favourable interest in your sports team. That means that he has to be against your opponent. I wouldn't have a problem if they only prayed for each others safety. But they don't, they pray for something selfish like victory.
	http://www.youtube.com/user/jonjits


+ Solid Snake	Sep 4 2014, 02:47 PM Post #19
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	I don't follow religion like y'all extent, but I do believe in God and Jesus. Speaking on that, if God didn't give you the tools to save a life, then even if God didn't do it personally, God still placed said person on Earth for that particular example. I agree about the sports jazz however.
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Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Sep 4 2014, 08:37 PM Post #20
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Ninjaneer Sep 3 2014, 10:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 3 2014, 02:53 PM A lot of non-Christians I'm going to ask for a little more research here. Claims are great if you have the text to back it up. You should do the research before you come on the thread because if you did I wouldn't have to put up a whole bunch of links. Justsaiyanbro And I honestly don't see what's the problem with people thanking God. A lot of people get strength and extra motivation from their faith so why not acknowledge it. If you got a problem, oh well, sounds like a personal issue.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 4 2014, 09:05 PM Post #21
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 4 2014, 08:37 PM Ninjaneer Sep 3 2014, 10:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 3 2014, 02:53 PM A lot of non-Christians I'm going to ask for a little more research here. Claims are great if you have the text to back it up. You should do the research before you come on the thread because if you did I wouldn't have to put up a whole bunch of links. Justsaiyanbro And I honestly don't see what's the problem with people thanking God. A lot of people get strength and extra motivation from their faith so why not acknowledge it. If you got a problem, oh well, sounds like a personal issue. Thanking God is basically telling the person that whatever happened wasn't a result of their actions, but God. Scoring a goal/touchdown/whatever isn't the result of praying to God, it's the result of the player's skill. Being told that your achievements are almost solely down to some kind of divine intervention instead of your own hard work and training is very frustrating. It doesn't matter if people get strength and motivation from praying, acknowledging an individual's skill and their achievements as their own is just common courtesy.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Sep 4 2014, 09:21 PM Post #22
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Naked Snake Sep 4 2014, 09:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 4 2014, 08:37 PM Ninjaneer Sep 3 2014, 10:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 3 2014, 02:53 PM A lot of non-Christians I'm going to ask for a little more research here. Claims are great if you have the text to back it up. You should do the research before you come on the thread because if you did I wouldn't have to put up a whole bunch of links. Justsaiyanbro And I honestly don't see what's the problem with people thanking God. A lot of people get strength and extra motivation from their faith so why not acknowledge it. If you got a problem, oh well, sounds like a personal issue. Thanking God is basically telling the person that whatever happened wasn't a result of their actions, but God. Scoring a goal/touchdown/whatever isn't the result of praying to God, it's the result of the player's skill. Being told that your achievements are almost solely down to some kind of divine intervention instead of your own hard work and training is very frustrating. It doesn't matter if people get strength and motivation from praying, acknowledging an individual's skill and their achievements as their own is just common courtesy. It's a show of humility. They know how hard they've worked. They're just showing some gratitude and being thankful for the position they are in. I honestly think it's funny if Atheists get upset over this kinda stuff. It's really not a big deal.
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+ Pelador	Sep 4 2014, 09:43 PM Post #23
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Thanking God for victory means that God acted unfavourably to another party, which shouldn't happen. God is without bias. It doesn't make me angry when I see it but I just think oh shut up.
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Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Sep 4 2014, 10:27 PM Post #24
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Eat a snickers, Pelly. On the actual subject, is it too late to put a poll on this?
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 4 2014, 10:35 PM Post #25
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I think we've pretty much established that whether or not he was an actual person really doesn't matter. Either way, he wasn't the man from the bible.



Rockman	Sep 5 2014, 01:37 AM Post #26
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 4 2014, 08:37 PM Ninjaneer Sep 3 2014, 10:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 3 2014, 02:53 PM A lot of non-Christians I'm going to ask for a little more research here. Claims are great if you have the text to back it up. You should do the research before you come on the thread because if you did I wouldn't have to put up a whole bunch of links. Justsaiyanbro And I honestly don't see what's the problem with people thanking God. A lot of people get strength and extra motivation from their faith so why not acknowledge it. If you got a problem, oh well, sounds like a personal issue. No thanks. I'd rather not do research on your behalf just because you decide to spout off nonsense without backing up anything you say to make a half-ass remark to boost your post count. Maybe i've already done the research and i'm simply checking to see if you have any idea what you're talking about? Maybe I haven't. It doesn't matter what I do, that's not the point. Take accountability for what you say and post at least one link of a reputable source. Otherwise I see no reason to believe or take anything you say seriously. Take Note I came here to debate. Not inject opinion like yourself. So before you come into this area, do your research and post what you find so I don't have to put up a whole bunch of links on how to hold a position of debate. Justsupersaiyanbro
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 5 2014, 04:08 AM Post #27
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Agreed. Normally when making such a generalized statement that involves statistics, links are appreciated.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Sep 5 2014, 08:07 PM Post #28
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	I thought it was common knowledge that many nonChristian historians accepted the existence of Jesus of Nazerene. The only thing half-ass is debating without researching the basics of this argument. And pretty much all the generalized statements here and arguments come without links. Get off my case.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Sep 5 2014, 08:10 PM Post #29
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I always back up my statistics with links; however, I don't usually post generalized statistics. That's the problem here. Anyways, moving on. Who cares.



* Ketchup Revenge	Sep 7 2014, 04:22 AM Post #30
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 4 2014, 09:21 PM Naked Snake Sep 4 2014, 09:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 4 2014, 08:37 PM Ninjaneer Sep 3 2014, 10:05 PM Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Sep 3 2014, 02:53 PM A lot of non-Christians I'm going to ask for a little more research here. Claims are great if you have the text to back it up. You should do the research before you come on the thread because if you did I wouldn't have to put up a whole bunch of links. Justsaiyanbro And I honestly don't see what's the problem with people thanking God. A lot of people get strength and extra motivation from their faith so why not acknowledge it. If you got a problem, oh well, sounds like a personal issue. Thanking God is basically telling the person that whatever happened wasn't a result of their actions, but God. Scoring a goal/touchdown/whatever isn't the result of praying to God, it's the result of the player's skill. Being told that your achievements are almost solely down to some kind of divine intervention instead of your own hard work and training is very frustrating. It doesn't matter if people get strength and motivation from praying, acknowledging an individual's skill and their achievements as their own is just common courtesy. It's a show of humility. They know how hard they've worked. They're just showing some gratitude and being thankful for the position they are in. I honestly think it's funny if Atheists get upset over this kinda stuff. It's really not a big deal. Not trying to be insulting, but I have a seriously hard time believing in an all-loving God who actually spends the time to grace you with relatively minor victories when you have to consider the fact that there's children suffering with cancer, and when you consider how many ways the Universe is trying to kill us. Most of the known universe is uninhabitable to humans because the radiation is so high. If the Universe was made by a God, it certainly wasn't created for humans. That's for sure. God's either not all good, he's not all powerful, or he simply doesn't exist. And if he does exist, he can't be both good and all-powerful given the context of reality. This is the one reason why I'm an agnostic Atheist. It's not that I don't believe in the possibility of a God, I just don't believe in the Biblical God, or any other god in any type of scripture. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Sep 7 2014, 04:28 AM.
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