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Amon vs Ozai; Spoilers for those who haven't seen the Legend of Korra
Topic Started: Aug 31 2014, 01:02 AM (1,334 Views)
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Who do you think would win a fight? I personally think Amon is nigh unbeatable, only capable of being beaten by the Avatar, who can negate his blood bending in the Avatar state.
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Are we talking Sozin Ozai? The fire bending is powered up to Avatar levels with the comet, I'd venture to say that Sozin Ozai can over power the Rebel Leader
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Even with Sozin's comet, I don't see how Ozai is winning. Amon is an excellent enough fighter without bending, but he can also block Chi, blood bend without the full moon, and water bend. All Amon need do is blood bend Ozai into submission, get behind him, and take his bending away. Bam, Ozai is done.
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Avatar is bad tbh
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But we must consider how Bending might have changed in the seventy years between the two. With the advent of Professional Bending, Korra's Bending has taken strides to keep the participants safe and we cannot assume that those teams with the most glory in the arena have separate training facilities for those who wish to learn from them. An excellent way to fund the Bending teams as well.

However, Ozai's Bending was always meant to be a FATAL style, intent on killing his opponent with overwhelming power. Amon has practice with people who want to neutralize him but can we be so certain he is so easily defeating an opponent whose only intent is his death? Murderous intent is a helluva motivator.....
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Amon would have no problem killing Ozai, and we know Amon is comparable to the benders of old because his father, Yakone, was able to subdue Toph, the police, Sokka, and Aang all at once with his blood bending. He even came close to killing Aang, but was stopped by Aang's Avatar state. Amon is just a good a bender as his father, if not better. We certainly know his basic combat skills are superior to his father, so couple that with the bending ability of his father, and he should be able to take down Ozai with relative ease.
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Amon easily

He's basically unbeatable 1 on 1 unless your in the avatar state or unless the plot helps you(see korra vs amon)

Bloodbending was banned for a reason

Edit:Zaheer vs Ozai would have been a better fight imo
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Aug 31 2014, 01:28 AM
Even with Sozin's comet, I don't see how Ozai is winning. Amon is an excellent enough fighter without bending, but he can also block Chi, blood bend without the full moon, and water bend. All Amon need do is blood bend Ozai into submission, get behind him, and take his bending away. Bam, Ozai is done.
Area of effect. Not sure if you remember Sozin's comet, but Ozai had the boy with over 1000 links of learning and all four elements on his side on the ropes. If they're starting off one to one, one combustible flame ball is going to end Amon. He can blood bend, but can he stop Ozai from summoning flames from anywhere with the Comet's power. Amon is very technical, and while that normally works, he still did fall to Korra's one on one air bending in the end. If he's off balance, he's done for. Skill wise he's probably focused Azula's level, but like Azula he's only effective when focused. Lightning and waves of flame tend to frazzle a guy like him
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Ozai never really had Aang on the ropes

Aang just didn't want to fight the guy

But I do recall when Ozai was in front of his fleet raining fire and burning entire forests so the AOE for his firebendinh is quite large

But bloodbening doesn't is basically instantaneous for Amon and ozai wont have time to react
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Aug 31 2014, 02:03 AM
Ozai never really had Aang on the ropes

Aang just didn't want to fight the guy

But I do recall when Ozai was in front of his fleet raining fire and burning entire forests so the AOE for his firebendinh is quite large

But bloodbening doesn't is basically instantaneous for Amon and ozai wont have time to react
Ozai did have Aang on the ropes. Aang didn't want to KILL Ozai but he sure as hell wanted to stop him and that requires he fight and fight hard at that. But until he tapped the Avatar State, Aang was on the defensive the entire fight.

On the subject of the AoE and Amon's bloodbending, I have to ask you: What do you consider Amon's maximum reach with unassisted bloodbending (aka bloodbending without a moon)? And do you believe this reach to be greater than Ozai's maximum fireburst reach?
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The fact that Ozai, with the ultimate fire bender power up, was done in by a 12-13 year old Avatar restraining himself doesn't really speak well of Ozai. Amon pretty much wins in every scenario not involving the Avatar in the Avatar state. His natural skills coupled with his blood bending make him nigh unbeatable.
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Aug 31 2014, 03:45 AM
The fact that Ozai, with the ultimate fire bender power up, was done in by a 12-13 year old Avatar restraining himself doesn't really speak well of Ozai. Amon pretty much wins in every scenario not involving the Avatar in the Avatar state. His natural skills coupled with his blood bending make him nigh unbeatable.
The Avatar, aka Kung Fu Action Jesus? He didn't take him out until he was in Avatar State. And if you're judging this against Ozai because of Aang's age and not his immense talent, skill and courage, then it's rather clear that you have newer fought anyone before or have any idea how battle works. Age, especially in the martial arts, is nothing. Shame on you.
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The fact that Ozai, with the ultimate fire bender power up, was done in by a 12-13 year old Avatar restraining himself doesn't really speak well of Ozai. Amon pretty much wins in every scenario not involving the Avatar in the Avatar state. His natural skills coupled with his blood bending make him nigh unbeatable.
The Avatar, aka Kung Fu Action Jesus? He didn't take him out until he was in Avatar State. And if you're judging this against Ozai because of Aang's age and not his immense talent, skill and courage, then it's rather clear that you have newer fought anyone before or have any idea how battle works. Age, especially in the martial arts, is nothing. Shame on you.
He was doing pretty well for restraining himself though. Again, Yakone was able to defeat an entire court room of people including Toph and Avatar Aang(whom at this point possess much greater skill). Amon is superior to his father Yakone, and if Yakon could knock people out via blood bending, I see no reason Amon couldn't do the same. While Ozai is out cold, he could take his bending away with relative ease. Age restricts his level of skill in this case, as time is a factor to consider. You heard Katara, Toph, and Zuko. They all claimed Aang hadn't yet mastered Water, Earth and Fire before his fight with Ozai.
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Correction: He had mastered all but Fire, and was not comfortable using Fire anyway.
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Aug 31 2014, 04:16 AM
Correction: He had mastered all but Fire, and was not comfortable using Fire anyway.
Nope, someone needs to watch the 4-episode finale again. Katara and Toph both said Aang's Water and Earth bending could use a little work.
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