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Ever Dealt With This Back In School?
Topic Started: Aug 30 2014, 02:32 AM (1,686 Views)
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Aug 31 2014, 09:06 AM
It doesn't matter if they're human, they have a job to do.
You're right, what was I thinking.

They can't possibly be subject or entitled to the same thoughts, feelings, or hardships as the rest of us. Especially not if they have a job to do.

I would love to see you teach several classes full of students every day Steve. To see how you fair.

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Wow, you were a d***.

I would've thrown the book as a fellow student.


Yeah. I was. It followed me into adulthood in the form of extreme procrastination.
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Aug 31 2014, 09:16 AM
"Miss !@#$%, I have been absent from school for the last week, for reasons you have been made fully aware, and as such have not prepared a presentation."

"So? Your name is next on the list."

"I had hoped you would allow me to make my presentation last, or at least some time tomorrow." (class was big enough that it was going to take 2 separate lessons to get through them all)

"That is a shame, as you have hoped in vain. Make your presentation."

"Miss, this presentation counts for 15% of our total grade. If you give me until our next lesson, I will create something worth presenting. Or am I simply expected to forfeit that percentage of my grade?"


Now, up until this point, this had been rather... civil... but then she lept to her feet and yelled:

"You are expected to do as your damn well told."

I have no idea what the source of her rage had been but I was quickly becoming it's outlet... and my response didn't help the matter. I stood up and retorted :

"That's ridiculous. Unless the sole purpose of this presentation was to see me stumble over my words and ramble on incoherently about some hastily chosen topic... making a fool of myself and scoring extremely poorly... I'd rather not even bother."

"Are you defying me?!"

"I guess I am."
Shiz, i'm glad I never had a teacher like this lol.

Would have been really problematic for me.
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Sep 1 2014, 10:30 PM
You're right, what was I thinking.

They can't possibly be subject or entitled to the same thoughts, feelings, or hardships as the rest of us. Especially not if they have a job to do.

I would love to see you teach several classes full of students every day Steve. To see how you fair.
I would fail at it I never said I'd be good at the job and yeah it's not an easy job but why be one if you're going to be a prick to children? If you can't handle it, don't be a teacher.

Getting annoyed sometimes as fine but to bully kids on a consistent basis when you're supposed to be leading them in to their future? There is no excuse for that.


Maybe the teacher made horrible mistakes in their life or whatever, should it be taken out on children and damage their potential? Teaching is an extremely important job in any classroom could hold the boy or girl that will find a way to cure cancer or invent some revolutionary...thing, even the noisy annoying kids.

To put them down and treat them different or even lower their grades out of spite is despicable, again there is no excuse someone has to be an adult in that situation and it sure as hell won't be teenagers or younger.
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Not trying to brag... but pretty much every teacher I've ever had has absolutely loved me, with one exception. I'm the youngest of three so it was hard to go through a grade in middle or high school where I didn't have a teacher that taught my older brothers. They were always excited to have another (my last name) in the class and bragged to each other in the hallways about whether or not they had "taught the whole set". The only teacher that didn't like me had only taught one of my brothers before. It was a political science type class at a tech school and my brother was very opinionated, and didn't have the same views as the teacher. He often criticized her for teaching her political opinions as facts instead of showing both sides and they never saw things eye to eye. So when she got his shy awkward little sister a couple years later it was payback time.

She wasn't horrible, but she tripped me up on a couple assignments. Once she changed the due date on a big assignment and waited to announce it until I was out of the room (scheduled counselor meeting concerning the upcoming semester and what classes I should pick as electives). I didn't have friends in that class so nobody told me and I was unprepared. She would assign "current events" projects weekly where you clip a story from a newspaper and write what you thought about it, and would reject mine often for not being "important enough". Hm, maybe not to her, but I thought they were. I would finish assignments early and then write on notebook paper ideas for stories. She came around and asked what I was writing and I told her it's an idea for a book (My shy on the spot voice is really squeaky too so the others giggled and made it worse, ugh). She asked if I finished my assignment and I showed her (found out later it was perfect). She frowned at it and said well you should just put down your pencil and wait for the others to be done. She took my paper and told me to come back when school gets out and she will give it back. The girl next to me was drawing, waved at the teacher, smiled and went back to drawing but didn't get in trouble. It wouldn't have been a big deal to me except when I went to get my story back at the end of school the teacher smiled sweetly at me and said "Oh, I put it in the recycle bin and they just came and took that away. Sorry, maybe you shouldn't write silly stories in my class any more, hm?" And just smiled while I left in tears.

And if that's all I can complain about after 13 years in the public school system, then I reckon my teachers did really good overall. I have a lot more good teacher stories than bad ones. And I've made good friends with many of my old teachers. In the end I think I can tell you at least 5 stories of students mistreating teachers for every 1 story I have of a teacher being deliberately mean to either me or a classmate.

Edit: I am an A/B student, but I did manage to pass that class with a high C despite the problems, she wasn't the kind to try and fail me just because she had a beef with my brother.
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Sep 1 2014, 10:30 PM
Steve
Aug 31 2014, 09:06 AM
It doesn't matter if they're human, they have a job to do.
You're right, what was I thinking.

They can't possibly be subject or entitled to the same thoughts, feelings, or hardships as the rest of us. Especially not if they have a job to do.

I would love to see you teach several classes full of students every day Steve. To see how you fair.

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Wow, you were a d***.

I would've thrown the book as a fellow student.


Yeah. I was. It followed me into adulthood in the form of extreme procrastination.
It's true they should be given breathing room, but being a human is hardly a reason for a lack of accountability. Some teachers out there are really not fit for the job when they bring their real life issues into the classroom. After a parent a teacher will take on a lot of the responsibility for molding a child... If you can't handle the job where you're constantly are jealous of students, take out your real life stresses onto the students... Then frankly pass the job onto someone else. Unfortunately teacher unions make this very hard to do.

I don't doubt there are cases where students over analyze or misinterpret a teacher's behavior as picking on them or something along those lies. Just that there's definitely an issue of unqualified teachers at the same time.

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Sep 1 2014, 11:45 PM
Not trying to brag... but pretty much every teacher I've ever had has absolutely loved me, with one exception. I'm the youngest of three so it was hard to go through a grade in middle or high school where I didn't have a teacher that taught my older brothers. They were always excited to have another (my last name) in the class and bragged to each other in the hallways about whether or not they had "taught the whole set". The only teacher that didn't like me had only taught one of my brothers before. It was a political science type class at a tech school and my brother was very opinionated, and didn't have the same views as the teacher. He often criticized her for teaching her political opinions as facts instead of showing both sides and they never saw things eye to eye. So when she got his shy awkward little sister a couple years later it was payback time.

She wasn't horrible, but she tripped me up on a couple assignments. Once she changed the due date on a big assignment and waited to announce it until I was out of the room (scheduled counselor meeting concerning the upcoming semester and what classes I should pick as electives). I didn't have friends in that class so nobody told me and I was unprepared. She would assign "current events" projects weekly where you clip a story from a newspaper and write what you thought about it, and would reject mine often for not being "important enough". Hm, maybe not to her, but I thought they were. I would finish assignments early and then write on notebook paper ideas for stories. She came around and asked what I was writing and I told her it's an idea for a book (My shy on the spot voice is really squeaky too so the others giggled and made it worse, ugh). She asked if I finished my assignment and I showed her (found out later it was perfect). She frowned at it and said well you should just put down your pencil and wait for the others to be done. She took my paper and told me to come back when school gets out and she will give it back. The girl next to me was drawing, waved at the teacher, smiled and went back to drawing but didn't get in trouble. It wouldn't have been a big deal to me except when I went to get my story back at the end of school the teacher smiled sweetly at me and said "Oh, I put it in the recycle bin and they just came and took that away. Sorry, maybe you shouldn't write silly stories in my class any more, hm?" And just smiled while I left in tears.

And if that's all I can complain about after 13 years in the public school system, then I reckon my teachers did really good overall. I have a lot more good teacher stories than bad ones. And I've made good friends with many of my old teachers. In the end I think I can tell you at least 5 stories of students mistreating teachers for every 1 story I have of a teacher being deliberately mean to either me or a classmate.

Edit: I am an A/B student, but I did manage to pass that class with a high C despite the problems, she wasn't the kind to try and fail me just because she had a beef with my brother.
My teachers always make fun of my handwriting and I know for sure my sisters will be told about it in the future. I don't think I'll leave a bad name for them, except maybe one teacher where we just didn't get along. I'm the type who gets into arguments a lot, but that seems to have faded more in the past few years.
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My teacher last year got on my nerves, as well. Again, she would sound annoyed and upset when she would talk to me, but to anyone else she would be polite. I would get in trouble for really small things, too (like accidently dropping my pencil) and my punishment would always be worse than the other kids. They always got warnings, but if I did it I'd have to stay in for five minutes before I could go to my break. She graded me fairly though.

Then towards the end of the year, with a different teacher (I didn't really like the teacher, and she didn't seem to like me either. We were both polite to each other anyway.) , the girl who doesn't like me (she gives me problems all the time) took my last pencil and she was laughing loudly. I said "Give it back please, that's my last-" And the teacher shouted "SKY YOU GET EXTRA HOMEWORK FOR TALKING LOUD!" Why was she shouting? Because EVERYONE ELSE was being loud. I was drawing at my desk quietly, and when I asked for my pencil back I didn't shout. when I tried to explain, she told me no excuses, and that I lost one movie day for the whole class because of talking back (therefore all but two of my classmates hated me for that.) I didn't get my pencil back either, the girl threw it across the room and it landed behind the teachers desk somewhere.

My writing got made fun of all throughout school.
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My school was awesome. Some of the students there were so bad I was a shining example by comparison. I had a few teachers who I thought might not like me, but in the end I think they actually did.

Teachers being really pretentious like that doesn't fly with me at all. I talk to people on phones all day, if I were to consistently be a prat to some of the regulars I would be sacked on the spot. If you're hired to do a job, then do it, professionalism is usually part of the contract.
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Sep 1 2014, 11:25 PM
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Sep 1 2014, 10:30 PM
You're right, what was I thinking.

They can't possibly be subject or entitled to the same thoughts, feelings, or hardships as the rest of us. Especially not if they have a job to do.

I would love to see you teach several classes full of students every day Steve. To see how you fair.
I would fail at it I never said I'd be good at the job and yeah it's not an easy job but why be one if you're going to be a prick to children? If you can't handle it, don't be a teacher.

Getting annoyed sometimes as fine but to bully kids on a consistent basis when you're supposed to be leading them in to their future? There is no excuse for that.


Maybe the teacher made horrible mistakes in their life or whatever, should it be taken out on children and damage their potential? Teaching is an extremely important job in any classroom could hold the boy or girl that will find a way to cure cancer or invent some revolutionary...thing, even the noisy annoying kids.

To put them down and treat them different or even lower their grades out of spite is despicable, again there is no excuse someone has to be an adult in that situation and it sure as hell won't be teenagers or younger.
You're mistaking my position as a defense or excuse for their behavior. Rather i'm trying to make you understand the situation. I have a problem with people popping off opinions to the extreme degree about groups of people.

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Never actually dealt with a teacher that didn't like me.
In fact, I've been home schooled up till now, and tomorrow, I'm going to public high school.
A lot of the teachers I'm hearing about in this thread sound like total dicks. And they don't have dicks. Just cracking a joke. Not really funny, though. :(
I hope I don't encounter teachers like that in high school.
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Sep 2 2014, 10:49 AM
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Sep 1 2014, 11:25 PM
Ninjaneer
Sep 1 2014, 10:30 PM
You're right, what was I thinking.

They can't possibly be subject or entitled to the same thoughts, feelings, or hardships as the rest of us. Especially not if they have a job to do.

I would love to see you teach several classes full of students every day Steve. To see how you fair.
I would fail at it I never said I'd be good at the job and yeah it's not an easy job but why be one if you're going to be a prick to children? If you can't handle it, don't be a teacher.

Getting annoyed sometimes as fine but to bully kids on a consistent basis when you're supposed to be leading them in to their future? There is no excuse for that.


Maybe the teacher made horrible mistakes in their life or whatever, should it be taken out on children and damage their potential? Teaching is an extremely important job in any classroom could hold the boy or girl that will find a way to cure cancer or invent some revolutionary...thing, even the noisy annoying kids.

To put them down and treat them different or even lower their grades out of spite is despicable, again there is no excuse someone has to be an adult in that situation and it sure as hell won't be teenagers or younger.
You're mistaking my position as a defense or excuse for their behavior. Rather i'm trying to make you understand the situation. I have a problem with people popping off opinions to the extreme degree about groups of people.

Well I don't see anyone here making sweeping generalizations. People are just trying to bring attention to a real issue. So it sounds like you're defending their right to act a certain way (even though you aren't as you say).

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I think all my school teachers disliked me to an extent. I was obnoxiously loud in class, didn't pay attention, and disturbed other kids. I think what ticked them off the most is that it had no impact on my test scores. I usually scored pretty well, i think they all expected me to fail.

Also, I'm going to school to become a teacher. I began watching teachers teach just last week. I can tell you my teacher was frustarted on day one and the kids just dont care. I have ridiculously high tolerance, so I cant see myself being that teacher that takes it out on his kids.
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Ninjaneer
Sep 2 2014, 10:49 AM
You're mistaking my position as a defense or excuse for their behavior. Rather i'm trying to make you understand the situation. I have a problem with people popping off opinions to the extreme degree about groups of people.

I never said all teachers do it.

But many do and there's no excuse for it to happen consistently, outside problems shouldn't reach the classroom but fair enough if a teacher is a bit upset over a break up or someone they knew dying.

There's no excuse to fairly openly hold a grudge over pupils.

No matter how much you dislike people it's not exactly hard to pretend otherwise, professionalism as Crash said.

Not that all teachers need to be super nice stern ones are great but there's a difference between that and calling kids stupid or embarrassing them in front of the class to satisfy some misplaced resentment.
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