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Vegeta SSj2(Cell-Games) And Future Trunks SSj2(Cell-Games) Vs...
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OmegaSaiyan2	Aug 30 2014, 12:23 AM Post #1
ż? Posts: 3,381 Group: Member Member #10,465 Joined: November 9, 2013 Gender Male Country Chile Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z and Sailor Moon. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z.	AND 1-Cell Jrs 2-Mssj Goku 3-Cell(Supressed @Goku) 4-Mssj Gohan 5-MSSJ Goku Buu Saga And Cell( @Gohan) 6-Bojack(Full Power) 7-Full Power Perfect Cell 8-Power Weighted Perfect Cell 9-SSj2 Goku(Hypothetical Cell-Games,50%) 10-20% Super Perfect Cell 11-40% Super Perfect Cell 12-57% Super Perfect Cell 13-75% Super Perfect Cell 14-35% SSj2 Gohan(Cell Games) I Think They Get At 57% Of SPC,Together They Can Maybe Beat Him,They Lose 12 And 13,But in 14 They Stomp Gohan Edited by OmegaSaiyan2, Aug 30 2014, 12:32 AM.
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+ Yusuke	Aug 30 2014, 12:56 AM Post #2
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	They don't even get passed 3 IMO. I have a very hefty gap between CG Goku and CG Gohan.
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TheACE	Aug 30 2014, 01:16 AM Post #3
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	In what universe can any Super Saiyan defeat an Ascended Saiyan? If for no other reason than the fact that the speed and strength is doubled by Ascending, on top of whatever super boost, on top of whatever required SSJ Rage. Gohan, while stronger than the rest of the team, there's just no way he could defeat an ascended Saiyan as a Super Saiyan, he couldn't beat Cell as a Super Saiyan.
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+ Yusuke	Aug 30 2014, 01:30 AM Post #4
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	TheACE Aug 30 2014, 01:16 AM In what universe can any Super Saiyan defeat an Ascended Saiyan? If for no other reason than the fact that the speed and strength is doubled by Ascending, on top of whatever super boost, on top of whatever required SSJ Rage. Gohan, while stronger than the rest of the team, there's just no way he could defeat an ascended Saiyan as a Super Saiyan, he couldn't beat Cell as a Super Saiyan. So 1st RoSaT ASSJ Vegeta > MSSJ Goku by that logic correct?
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AA500	Aug 31 2014, 12:23 AM Post #5
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	TheACE Aug 30 2014, 01:16 AM In what universe can any Super Saiyan defeat an Ascended Saiyan? If for no other reason than the fact that the speed and strength is doubled by Ascending, on top of whatever super boost, on top of whatever required SSJ Rage. Gohan, while stronger than the rest of the team, there's just no way he could defeat an ascended Saiyan as a Super Saiyan, he couldn't beat Cell as a Super Saiyan. Gohan could potentially be twice as strong as Vegeta and Trunks. Vegeta was flabbergasted at Goku's full power while Gohan thought his father and Cell were still fooling around (though Cell was, Goku was going all out). Gohan was also essentially tanking attacks of Goku's caliber, the same level of power that Vegeta peed his pants over.



EMIYA	Aug 31 2014, 12:36 AM Post #6
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	They get passed the first three for rather obvious reasons, other than that, I say they're screwed. Although they're going to beat the snot out of a 50% SSj2 Cell Games Goku.



TheACE	Aug 31 2014, 01:26 AM Post #7
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Urameshi Aug 30 2014, 01:30 AM TheACE Aug 30 2014, 01:16 AM In what universe can any Super Saiyan defeat an Ascended Saiyan? If for no other reason than the fact that the speed and strength is doubled by Ascending, on top of whatever super boost, on top of whatever required SSJ Rage. Gohan, while stronger than the rest of the team, there's just no way he could defeat an ascended Saiyan as a Super Saiyan, he couldn't beat Cell as a Super Saiyan. So 1st RoSaT ASSJ Vegeta > MSSJ Goku by that logic correct? Yes, he's at the second level of, wait I see what the problem is. No I don't mean Super Vegeta, I mean Ascended Vegeta. The same form he took on during his fight with Goku and Majin Buu, not the Grade II form.
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+ Yusuke	Aug 31 2014, 02:25 AM Post #8
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	TheACE Aug 31 2014, 01:26 AM Urameshi Aug 30 2014, 01:30 AM TheACE Aug 30 2014, 01:16 AM In what universe can any Super Saiyan defeat an Ascended Saiyan? If for no other reason than the fact that the speed and strength is doubled by Ascending, on top of whatever super boost, on top of whatever required SSJ Rage. Gohan, while stronger than the rest of the team, there's just no way he could defeat an ascended Saiyan as a Super Saiyan, he couldn't beat Cell as a Super Saiyan. So 1st RoSaT ASSJ Vegeta > MSSJ Goku by that logic correct? Yes, he's at the second level of, wait I see what the problem is. No I don't mean Super Vegeta, I mean Ascended Vegeta. The same form he took on during his fight with Goku and Majin Buu, not the Grade II form. So an SSJ2 from the Namek Arc can beat a SSJ from the Buu Arc? Sorry, not a fan of that.
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OmegaSaiyan2	Aug 31 2014, 02:42 AM Post #9
ż? Posts: 3,381 Group: Member Member #10,465 Joined: November 9, 2013 Gender Male Country Chile Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z and Sailor Moon. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z.	TheACE Aug 31 2014, 01:26 AM Urameshi Aug 30 2014, 01:30 AM TheACE Aug 30 2014, 01:16 AM In what universe can any Super Saiyan defeat an Ascended Saiyan? If for no other reason than the fact that the speed and strength is doubled by Ascending, on top of whatever super boost, on top of whatever required SSJ Rage. Gohan, while stronger than the rest of the team, there's just no way he could defeat an ascended Saiyan as a Super Saiyan, he couldn't beat Cell as a Super Saiyan. So 1st RoSaT ASSJ Vegeta > MSSJ Goku by that logic correct? Yes, he's at the second level of, wait I see what the problem is. No I don't mean Super Vegeta, I mean Ascended Vegeta. The same form he took on during his fight with Goku and Majin Buu, not the Grade II form. So: SSJ2 Goku > SSJ Gogeta So: SSJ2 Majin Vegeta > SSj1 Goku(GT)?[/quote]
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TheACE	Aug 31 2014, 02:41 PM Post #10
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Oh no, we are not doing this. Those characters are clearly out of scale. Whereas Cell games Vegeta and Trunks are clearly in scales with cell Games Cell and Goku. To scale, yes absolutely. But if we're gonna do Super Saiyan Vegeta Saga Goku vs Base GT Uub, of course you're gonna have a deficit. I'm just saying, general rule of thumb, in scale characters.
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+ Yusuke	Aug 31 2014, 02:58 PM Post #11
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	TheACE Aug 31 2014, 02:41 PM Oh no, we are not doing this. Those characters are clearly out of scale. Whereas Cell games Vegeta and Trunks are clearly in scales with cell Games Cell and Goku. To scale, yes absolutely. But if we're gonna do Super Saiyan Vegeta Saga Goku vs Base GT Uub, of course you're gonna have a deficit. I'm just saying, general rule of thumb, in scale characters. When was this ever the general rule of thumb? Personally, I think comparing CG to Buu is rather "out of scale" when you have a chain like this... Goku = Vegeta (Post-Majin) >= CG Gohan > Burst Goku > Vegeta (Pre-Majin) >/>= Gohan (Expected by Vegeta) ~ Goku (Expected by Vegeta) > CG Goku > CG Vegeta Unless your using an SSJ2 multiplier higher than 2X SSJ, it's hard to work out IMO.
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