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Frieza vs Pui Pui
Topic Started: Aug 27 2014, 01:43 AM (4,715 Views)
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Who wins?

Edit: Actually, Frieza vs Yakon
Edited by Android19, Aug 27 2014, 02:03 AM.
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Pocus wins. I only have the argument that he is a later villain.
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Yeah but that arguement is debunked by Dabura being weaker than Cell and even some of the Buus being stronger than the final form.

I don't believe that a being who thought that ten times Earth's gravity was a big deal could be more powerful than Freeza.


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He thought Vegeta, who was kicking his a***, would be at a disadvantage because of there being 10x gravity. His power level is probably only in the early thousands. No way he's stronger than Frieza. I wanna change it to Frieza vs Yakon
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Yakon's speed gave Goku trouble and only his ability to sense ki saved him from being turned into ham. So Yakon wins easily.


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Somewhere higher than Freeza still, considering how SP Kai didn't want to take him out 1v1. Wouldn't say he was paranoid either considering how arrogantly he was talking about Freeza earlier (one shot business). Also wouldn't say he doesn't know his power since he used him as a confirmation measuring stick post battle, implying he knew his power he whole time.

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I don't think Freeza has to be weaker than Pui-Pui. Yakon, however, is stronger than Freeza imo.
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I still go by:

- Kaio can one-shot Freeza.

- Kaio is intimidated by Pocus.

Pocus > Kaioshin >>>> Freeza.
Edited by GrooseStrikesBack, Aug 27 2014, 04:37 AM.
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Kai can't sense power levels. Even after Gohan goes releases all that energy and goes SSJ2 right in front of his eyes he still thinks the Z fighters can't beat Babadi's men. Kai isn't specifically intimidated by Pui Pui, he just say that Babadi's warriors are incredibly strong, he just thinks Pui Pui is strong but he isn't.
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Aug 27 2014, 04:59 AM
Kai can't sense power levels.
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
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Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”

Chapter: 474 (DBZ 280), P7.8, P8.1-2
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan 3
Gohan: “”Th-this ki…Don’t tell me…it’s father?...No…It’s not…”
Kaioshin: “Th-that’s right…It’s Son Goku…! Th-this truly is absolutely incredible energy…”
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PuiPui is for me the counterpart of saiyan saga vegeta (and Yakon is counterpart of Frieza in terms of power), but I will be generous and give him power of oozaru Vegeta. Still he is nothing.
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Oh cmon now. Pui Pui gets killed in a milisecond.
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It's odd that Kaioshin, nor any of the Saiyans, ever contradicted the implication that Pui-Pui (and later Yakon) were supposed to be foes above Freeza's caliber. After all, Kaioshin basically thought nothing of Freeza, but warned the Saiyans that Babidi's forces would be troublesome, and then later used the fight with Pui-Pui as a gauge for assessing the strength of the Saiyans.

Point being: Pui-Pui should be all means be above Freeza (no, not just Freeza's first form; that's such a cop-out answer), and Yakon should be much further beyond that given the real Stage 2 fighter was skipped in favor of him.
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Aug 27 2014, 05:01 AM
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Aug 27 2014, 04:59 AM
Kai can't sense power levels.
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
[...]
Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”

Chapter: 474 (DBZ 280), P7.8, P8.1-2
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan 3
Gohan: “”Th-this ki…Don’t tell me…it’s father?...No…It’s not…”
Kaioshin: “Th-that’s right…It’s Son Goku…! Th-this truly is absolutely incredible energy…”
And yet after seeing Goha transform into SSJ2 right before his eyes he still thinks the Z fighters can't beat/will have trouble with Pui Pui. So are you saying that Base Vegeta > SSJ2 Gohan? Ofcourse not. Kai's power reading ability is very very questionable to say the least. Him being scared of Pui Pui, (which was actually just because he was Babadi's men, not because he knew Pui Pui's power, as all he says is Babadi's fighters are strong, not that Pui Pui himself is powerful) means nothing.
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Babidi seemed to have some idea of how strong Kaioshin was. Regardless of the miscalculations surrounding the power of the Saiyans, Babidi and Kaioshin have a history and Babidi was confident that Pocus would be able to handle Kaioshin.
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