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| SSJ3 Majin Vegeta Vs SSJ3 Goku | |
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| Goku Black | Aug 25 2014, 02:20 AM Post #1 |
 
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| EMIYA | Aug 25 2014, 02:46 AM Post #2 |
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Even if you infer this to be a living Goku who has the problems with his stamina and gave Vegeta the same amount of time to practice with SSj3 that Goku has. I'd still give it Goku. Goku has just as good of amplification as Vegeta, he's got as many typical ki attacks as Vegeta as he does his own unique brand of abilities such as Taiyoken and Instantaneous movement. To me, Goku takes the fight in the end. Without any PIS or CIS on, there's nothing stopping Goku from unleashing combination Taiyoken Instantaneous KHH's and if dead, a superior form of SSJ3 in the first place. |
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| Goku Black | Aug 25 2014, 04:25 AM Post #3 |
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So your saying that, goku wins due to already using the ssj3 form? |
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| TheACE | Aug 25 2014, 04:30 AM Post #4 |
The Last GT Fighter
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Basically. I wonder if the Majin magic would place more strain on the body as a Saiyan Ascended Even Further Beyond. If it does, then something tells me Vegeta would cripple himself doing it. We don't know what happened the first time Goku achieved the form, or how long he could use it then. So assuming it is Vegeta's first go around and an unpracticed Version of this form is so horrible, then it would be more worth Vegeta not using it at all. Point goes to Goku. |
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| + Ryebrid | Aug 25 2014, 04:37 AM Post #5 |
 
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If they're powers are equalised it could go either way with Goku having the advantage of Instant Transmission. The most likely outcome is they beat each other to a bloody pulp, using up every bit of energy they have, and keel over and take a nap. But they probably wouldn't get to that point due to the time limit with the form, so it would end a draw. I would express it like this: 5/10 It ends in a draw 3/10 Goku wins 2/10 Vegeta wins |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Aug 25 2014, 05:40 AM Post #6 |
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Goku wins, going by the buu arc and BOG gokus mastery of IT is hella impressive Using it for offense and defense its amazing and gives him a decent edge Plus the better usage of the form, vegeta is at a major disatvantage |
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| Kblo247 | Aug 25 2014, 05:50 AM Post #7 |
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In the manga they were dead even as ssj2s. In the manga early on, Vegeta using less power than Goku was superior to him when they first met and clashed before Vegeta used his full power and Goku used kaioken x 3. It really comes down to if you think Majin increases the stamina to combat a dead body or wears him out with the way his muscles and veins were popping out. I certainly think Majin Vegeta would have an edge on living Goku, as Vegeta is naturally tougher than Goku when it comes to taking punishment. I'd probably go 4/10 Vegeta 3/10 Goku 3/10 Draw Vegeta could match or beat him in pure skill as he's already shown, and if they were just playing on normal durability, Vegeta is tougher to keep down. I'm not buying the whole IT as O and D thing like in BoG personally. I'm letting Toei influence me there I admit by my own bias, as Goku used IT in the prolonged anime fight and Vegeta mocked and beat the crap out of him without ever losing him and where he was going. I don't think old tricks will work No matter how you slice their encounters, by hook or crook, they've always ended up with Goku face first in the dirt and Vegeta leaving under his own will. Edited by Kblo247, Aug 25 2014, 05:51 AM.
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| Billa | Aug 25 2014, 06:40 AM Post #8 |
Thala na Gethu!
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Vegeta's durable, agile, battle genius/technician Goku's smart, skillful to an extent. Never give-up attitude. Match can go either way. Goku has an edge in terms of Instant Transmission, Ryu-ken etc. |
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Aug 25 2014, 02:19 PM Post #9 |
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Instant Transmission did not give Goku the edge in the SSJ2 battle, so I don't see why it should here. If Vegeta is afforded the same time as Goku to acclimate to SSJ3: Tie If Vegeta is not provided this: Goku |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 25 2014, 03:57 PM Post #10 |
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I think Goku's durability is underestimated. Goku took an absolute beating versus Freeza, Piccolo Daimao, and Piccolo Jr. |
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| Kblo247 | Aug 25 2014, 09:26 PM Post #11 |
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And the two times he faced Vegeta he got - knocked out for hours to the point he couldn't be sensed and didn't even know what happened to Buu, Gohan, or Vegeta. That's big because Goku sensed everything while having a heart attack and sleeping for a week before - got every bone in his body crushed, shredded some muscles, and needed to be saved by Yajiorbe, 4 year old Gohan, and Krillin. I mean at the same time, Vegeta took being pummeled by someone much stronger. He took having his tail cut off. He took being blinded. Got hit with a spirri bomb. Road a Kamehameha. Got stabbed in the back thru his armor. And was crushed. Yet he still crawled away. Gokus extremely tough and durable, but Vegetas slightly tougher. Frieza was also far more violent with Vegeta, and unlike Goku, he didn't have the benefit of Piccolo and the others helping by him time and a reprieve. Frieza pounded him while they all watched and he didn't have a kaioken like move to boost his power to soften the blows. |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 25 2014, 09:32 PM Post #12 |
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I don't know what to say about a sneak attack Vegeta landed on Goku. I can't prove it, but I have this crazy idea that if someone exactly as strong as you hits you in the head while you're not expecting it and is trying to put you out of commission, you just might get knocked out also. Again, no proof on that end. I'm not sure how needing help against someone way, way stronger than you (Great Ape Vegeta) makes Goku less tough lol. Nobody is doubting Vegeta's durability, but let's not pretend like Goku hasn't taken his fair share of beatings just like Vegeta. You pointed it out yourself, dude had all his bones crushed by an Gigantic Ape. You're right, Vegeta didn't get no help from anyone against Freeza, but let's not forget Freeza used less power against him then he did against Goku. The only type of help Goku was afforded was Piccolo kicking Freeza across the planet via sneak attack (I think), and that was after Freeza had been kicking Goku's butt for a while. Edited by Hurry My Curry, Aug 25 2014, 09:38 PM.
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| Kblo247 | Aug 25 2014, 09:55 PM Post #13 |
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Goku had this thing called kaioken to protect him until Fireza started using more power. He took more beating because he literally was able to increase himself to 30mil most the fight, that's much different than being capped at 2.5mil and facing 4mil |
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| Hurry My Curry | Aug 25 2014, 09:59 PM Post #14 |
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Except Goku was facing 60 mil. He was actually at a bigger disadvantage and still lasted longer. And Kaioken literally damages you while you use it, still lasted a hell of a lot longer than Vegeta.
Edited by Hurry My Curry, Aug 25 2014, 10:00 PM.
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| Kblo247 | Aug 25 2014, 11:02 PM Post #15 |
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But kaioken didnt damage or strain Goku until he went x 20. It was natural to him after that zenkai as King Kai alluded to him using it the whole fight. |
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