POOHEAD189

Aug 24 2014, 06:17 AM

DSTREET45

Aug 24 2014, 06:13 AM

POOHEAD189

Aug 24 2014, 05:15 AM

Tien.

I prefer going with logic and the manga over Toriyama who contradicts.

How? What logic proves that Tien>Krilli post Saiyan Saga?

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And if Toriyama is infallible in his judgement, then that doesn't change my answer. It just makes Tien not human. (which I dislike since one of the main reasons I enjoyed Tien at first was because he was such a skilled human).

Piccolo outright calls Krillin and Tien Earthlings in the manga.

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The fact of the matter here is that Goku picked both Tenshinhan and Piccolo over Kuririn to help him with the androids. Yamcha is nearly dead and the two androids the group trained so hard for are right in front of them. They trained their asses off because of these two threats, so wouldn't it be common sense for Goku to pick the two strongest to stay with him just in case? Especially after hearing how strong they are from Trunks, and the fact that Goku couldn't sense how strong they actually were? Of course. Not only was Tenshinhan closer to Yamcha, but he was standing right next to Goku. So why is Goku going to turn and yell over at Kuririn to take Yamcha back? This scan shows it. Proof of Tenshinhan's strength can be seen with his neo tri-beam. That's the power of his ki raining down on Cell. Also, I'd like to show you these two scans for multiple reasons. First the scans: here and here. First off, look at their stances in the first scan. They were all ready to fight the androids. This supports my assumption that Goku would have picked the two strongest fighters to stay, I mean...Isn't it common sense? Even if Goku didn't want them to fight, he'd want the strongest backup. Goku couldn't have known if the androids were going to attack them right there or not, thus why he picked the strongest to stay behind. The second scan shows Tenshinhan's new strength. Not only did he see Gero's attack coming at him, but he also dodged it with Goku. I'm not saying he was around base Goku's strength, but he has to be pretty strong to do those things. Now…Trunks, Tenshinhan and Kuririn arrive where Piccolo is after his skirmish with Imperfect Cell. A plan is made, one pair goes after Cell, while the other pair find Gero's lab with pupil Cell and destroys that. Trunks leads the team that will search for the lab because he knows where it is, and knows what's going on in this situation, and it's his sole duty to stop the threat of Cell in this timeline. Piccolo leads the team that will try to find Imperfect Cell. Piccolo has to pick between Tenshinhan and Kuririn. He'd pick the better, stronger choice to help him track down Cell, right? Of course he would. Cell is extremely strong and dangerous. Again, that seems like common sense to me. Well, anyways...Do you remember who Piccolo picked? Check it out right here. Oh yeah, now look at this scan. It seems that Tenshinhan wants to help pretty badly, doesn't it? The reason he didn't go into the ROSAT near the end of the android saga saga was because only the Saiyans had a chance against Perfect Cell. He STILL wouldn't have been able to help in any way even if he went in the ROSAT, thus why he didn't. He knew that the Saiyans were the only chance, and he knew that he would die anyways if they failed. Once again, the Saiyans were the only chance for this last battle. The lives of everyone hung on their shoulders. If they failed, then everyone would parish. There was no need for him to train for this final battle with Cell. That however does not mean he quit training for the rest of his life. That is an absurd thought and there is no proof to back up that statement.

for your first query (and please don't try to use the fact he referred to the Kikoho as reasoning he doesn't know what he's talking about).

And is that a Viz translation?

Edit: Listen, it all boils down to what material we find reliable. I think the character's attitudes toward the characters implies Tien >Krillin. But I COULD think that way because I'm a writer and put a lot into characterizations.
And I realize the vast majority here think Krillin > Tien and I can respect that. But I don't think this way because of fanboyism. I dislike Vegeta but have NO problem with him being stronger than Tien in every saga, in base. I'd still be a fan if Tien lost all power and became like that farmer at BoZ.

POOHEAD189

Aug 24 2014, 06:17 AM

Edit: Listen, it all boils down to what material we find reliable. I think the character's attitudes toward the characters implies Tien >Krillin. But I COULD think that way because I'm a writer and put a lot into characterizations.
And I realize the vast majority here think Krillin > Tien and I can respect that. But I don't think this way because of fanboyism. I dislike Vegeta but have NO problem with him being stronger than Tien in every saga, in base. I'd still be a fan if Tien lost all power and became like that farmer at BoZ.