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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 17 2014, 03:41 AM (1,392 Views) | |
| * Ketchup Revenge | Aug 17 2014, 03:41 AM Post #1 |
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The Michael Brown case is a current case going on in the US (Missouri) that has caused the whole racial issue to be revived. It's not news that cops lately have gotten a bad rap, particularly in inner-cities which have recently become extremely hostile environments for cops, particularly white cops. This incident with Michael Brown happened in Ferguson, Missouri (a southern suburb of St. Louis) last week. Michael Brown was an 18 year old unarmed black male who was shot and killed by a white officer (Darren Wilson), in a case that is being called the next "Treyvon Martin". At first reports were sketchy at best, and this seemed like a typical White Cop shoots Black Person case, but as more details have emerged, it's looking further from the truth. The original situation that was described stated that Brown was walking home with a friend when a white cop (later revealed as Darren Wilson) pulled up to question what they were doing. An escalation happened, and Brown surrendered only to be shot by the cop multiple times. This original account of this was accompanied by claims by his parents that he was a gentle kid who never even got into fights. As of the past few days as more information has been released, we've learned that Brown had "strong-arm" robbed a convenience store only minutes before he was shot dead by Officer Wilson. There is a security video that has been released which shows Brown violently shoving the much smaller store clerk as he and his friend left with a box of $40 cigars. It was not an armed robbery, but Brown's size and physical handling of the clerk alone was enough to intimidate and overpower the clerk. However, come to find out that Officer Wilson actually knew nothing about the robbery, and had encountered Brown and his friend on a completely unrelated issue just moments after the robbery happened. Officer Wilson also had been treated for injuries sustained from an apparent altercation with Brown and his friend, suggesting that either Brown or both the men attacked him. In order to avoid bias, the Police Chief of the Furgeson PD called in a neighboring police department to investigate the incident, leaving his own department to simply protect the crime scene and do security patrol. This incident has gotten national attention, as well as riots and looting occurring in Ferguson, Missouri by the black community who live there. Cops have responded with tear gas. The Governor of Missouri has placed Ferguson in a state of Emergency, and placed a curfew in the city. No one is allowed out between midnight and 5 AM. I'm sorry if I missed anything. Discuss. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 17 2014, 03:45 AM.
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| Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro | Aug 18 2014, 10:02 PM Post #2 |
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You pretty much covered it all. However, new information was released today that Brown was shot 6 times according to the autopsy. He was also shot in several different areas of his body. This information hurts the officer's case even more. Based on all the evidence so far, I don't see how anybody could excuse the cop. Bring him to court and have him prosecuted. At least there will be some piece while this goes through the legal system. |
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| Mihawk | Aug 18 2014, 10:39 PM Post #3 |
 
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I read some information that he was shot from the front according to the autopsy, which is in favor of the police and against the witnesses who claim he was shot while running away. 6 shots does seem kinda excessive against an unarmed teen doesn't it? There has to be some sort of crime here. Still, I think people of that state are a wee bit excessive in their demonstrations. Some possibly a bit cuckoo, a few others just looting and taking advantage. |
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| Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro | Aug 18 2014, 11:41 PM Post #4 |
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Even if Mike Brown tried to attack the officer police are too trained and too equipped to have this resort to excessive force with a gun. It doesn't make much sense to me |
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| + Steve | Aug 19 2014, 07:56 PM Post #5 |
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'Murica. This isn't a racist thing this is a "cops shouldn't have guns or should be trained on how and WHEN to use them" I think reports need to stop with the "white" and "black" distinctions, does it matter? Adding them in makes it a huge problem usually for the black community. If you just say cop and citizen then it doesn't matter, adding in those distinctions just makes it a racist thing. |
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| Mike XL | Aug 21 2014, 12:32 AM Post #6 |
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I think all of this is so sad, from whatever angle you look at it. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Aug 22 2014, 04:08 AM Post #7 |
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The cop was physically injured by Brown, and both autopsies indicated that Brown was shot from the front. Being shot from the front doesn't really confirm either side of the story. He was either surrendering or lunging. Michael Brown's parents' statements definitely aren't helping the situation at all either, and if anything, it's digging a hole for their case. Their first issued statement was that he was not violent, and had never even been in a fight, but we know now that statement couldn't be more false. The surveillance video from the convenience store he robbed clearly shows him strong arming the clerk. In addition to this, there's leaked pics of him posing with a wad of cash and a glock. It's just a secondary posting I've seen, but his arrest record has apparently been leaked, and he's been charged previously for weapons possessions and aggravated assault. If anything, I don't think any story that goes against the cop's account makes sense at all. The cop has never had a complaint or disciplinary action against him in the six years he's been with the force, and he was even awarded with a commendation for his conduct back in February. It just doesn't add up that he'd shoot an unarmed person if he didn't think he had a legitimate reason. It would be different if he had a history of complaints or disciplinary actions. However, I do believe that six shots is very excessive. I'm not trying to stereotype or make excuses, but toxicology reports probably have not come back yet. For all we know, he could've been high on PCP or something. I've seen people get shot while high on PCP, and they simply keep going because of the drug's effect on them. Tasering has no effect either. However, it also could've been that the cop simply freaked out and emptied the clip because he couldn't thrive under pressure. Something also worth mentioning is that most of protestors in Ferguson are actually peaceful and law-abiding. It's only a few groups who are looting and rioting, but they're completely out of control. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 22 2014, 04:16 AM.
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| Tim | Aug 22 2014, 06:18 AM Post #8 |
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I think Last Week Tonight had a fairly good swing on this sort of thing so check that out if you're into it. It's one of those scenarios where due to the media being forced out of a lot of areas can make it a lot harder to get a compelte picture of what is going on and instead just little snippets that are probably quite biased one way or the other. Hopefully it will all be cleared out once the police officer is dealt with (whatever that may be). @Mike XL, please remember to post a bit more in your deep discussion posts 
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| Sam | Aug 23 2014, 05:21 PM Post #9 |
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There are riots even here in Denver. This was a ridiculous thing to happen and the police officer should be held fully accountable for his homocide. |
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Aug 23 2014, 08:07 PM Post #10 |
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This guy(Kajieme Powell) was so fed up with the Michale Brown case that he wanted to make a statement, he stole two sodas and a donut not to consume them but put them on the ground and declare that the cops shoot him. He also took out a knife and started waiving it trying to get the cops to shoot him, he never ran or acted aggressively towards the cops just walking back and fourth... All the cops had to do was back away from the young man create a safe distance and taze the guy. Lol nah fv*ck DAT they just filled that dude up with lead and put handcuffs on his dead body after. http://youtu.be/seV4hOER0MI <-----LINK TO VIDEO (NSFW) Edited by Volt the Mean, Aug 23 2014, 08:43 PM.
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Aug 23 2014, 10:44 PM Post #11 |
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The entire purpose to the Grand Jury hearing right now is to simply determine if Wilson was in the wrong and can even be convicted for his actions. I'm not making excuses, but cops are permitted to shoot to kill, and in order to convict of murder, it first has to be determined if their actions were unjustified. That's the whole reason why they get trained to use guns. If a cop got convicted of murder every time they shot and killed someone, there would be no reason for them to even carry guns; and no motivation on their part to even use them. So the current Grand Jury hearing (comprised of 12 members: 3 black, 9 white) isn't even the trial for Michael Brown. That may not even take place at all if Wilson is absolved of any wrong-doing. I personally believe that 6 slugs is overkill, but if Wilson was indeed attacked prior to him shooting Brown, and as some reports claim, Brown forced the gun toward Wilson during the struggle (as Wilson's report claims), then I don't see unjustification in killing Brown if Wilson's story is correct. If Wilson's account is true and is supported by the evidence, Brown already had expressed an intent in killing Wilson, and according to Wilson's report, Brown turned back and ran at him after running away initially. If Wilson's account is supported by the evidence and is determined to be true, it would've been self defense, and he will be acquitted. Brown was shot 6 times, but we don't know if more shots left Wilson's gun because there's been reports that one of the shots occurred in the cruiser during the struggle. Something also worth mentioning is that American Justice isn't about what actually happened, it's about what can be proven to have happened via evidence. This was the whole reason why George Zimmerman got off after killing Trayvon Martin. We all know the dude was a scumbag, but the evidence simply wasn't there to support any other account aside from Zimmerman's. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 23 2014, 11:07 PM.
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| Graffiti | Aug 24 2014, 08:04 PM Post #12 |
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I am 100% against racism, but riots aren't the way to do it, and honestly, I don't blame them. If you wanna make a change, protesting is the way to do it. Its like the Rodney King incident all over again. |
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| Tim | Aug 25 2014, 12:15 AM Post #13 |
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Most of the 'riots' that i've heard about were simply peaceful protests that the media obviously attempted to label as riots. The minority of people that do use this as an excuse to steal and cause problems and the media will always focus on that sadly rather than the legitimate protests. |
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| Graffiti | Aug 25 2014, 11:34 AM Post #14 |
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Look what happened in the UK back in like what 2012 or something, some people actually rioting cuz a black guy was shot or somethin, cant remember. Riots are just stupid in my opinion, they don't get you anywhere. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Aug 26 2014, 03:04 AM Post #15 |
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The thing about Ferguson was that these people were looting and rioting their own neighborhood. And then they complain when people don't think very highly of them. However, most of the protestors are peaceful. It was only a few groups who are looting and rioting. |
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