RaineStorm

Aug 22 2014, 03:46 PM

Naked Snake

Aug 22 2014, 03:31 PM

RaineStorm

Aug 22 2014, 03:22 PM

I thought the grenade only damaged Tao so badly because it caught him off guard and he couldn't manage a defense in time?

Even if that were the case, Tenshinhan would have to constantly be on-guard for attacks coming from different directions. A ki blast from.a dazed, weakened Piccolo actually hurt Nappa, who was much, much stronger than him at that point.

No I already conceded to the fact that Tien would totally die, if not from explosions then from chemicals. I just wanted to verify that I had interpreted that part correctly that Tao would have been better off if he had been able to guard against it.

It makes sense to me that if on guard Tien could survive some very strong blasts, or even hide in a hole in the ground like he did, but it doesn't protect him 100% of the time and therein lies the problem.

Itachi

Aug 22 2014, 02:42 PM

I don't see Vegito surviving the heat of a nuclear blast.

Also Tao needed the support of a pillar which he guided with ki to reach those speeds (not to mention you are calculating).

supersaqer

Aug 22 2014, 03:55 PM

Itachi

Aug 22 2014, 02:42 PM

I don't see Vegito surviving the heat of a nuclear blast.

Also Tao needed the support of a pillar which he guided with ki to reach those speeds (not to mention you are calculating).

The ultimate heat of a nuclear bomb, which surpasses the heat of the sun by multiple times, only lasts for a very very short time. And it's not like Ten will be hit at point blank range.

Anyways, Ten blitzes through them and kill them.

supersaqer

Aug 22 2014, 03:55 PM

Itachi

Aug 22 2014, 02:42 PM

I don't see Vegito surviving the heat of a nuclear blast.

Also Tao needed the support of a pillar which he guided with ki to reach those speeds (not to mention you are calculating).

The ultimate heat of a nuclear bomb, which surpasses the heat of the sun by multiple times, only lasts for a very very short time. And it's not like Ten will be hit at point blank range.

Anyways, Ten blitzes through them and kill them.

Itachi

Aug 22 2014, 04:07 PM

supersaqer

Aug 22 2014, 03:55 PM

Itachi

Aug 22 2014, 02:42 PM

I don't see Vegito surviving the heat of a nuclear blast.

Also Tao needed the support of a pillar which he guided with ki to reach those speeds (not to mention you are calculating).

The ultimate heat of a nuclear bomb, which surpasses the heat of the sun by multiple times, only lasts for a very very short time. And it's not like Ten will be hit at point blank range.

Anyways, Ten blitzes through them and kill them.

That's true I'll give you that. He still wouldn't survive radiation poisoning, even the lower end of the heat since the topic at hand is Ten and not Vegito.

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 04:34 PM

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Wrong.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Wrong again.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 04:34 PM

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Wrong.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Wrong again.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

supersaqer

Aug 23 2014, 07:14 PM

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 04:34 PM

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Wrong.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Wrong again.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

Hmm... I've read about the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagazaki, and many people survived the bomb, and for a long time. I mean, Ten will be in the air while the bomb goes off, falling and detonating. Ten will fly away from it.

supersaqer

Aug 23 2014, 07:14 PM

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 04:34 PM

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Wrong.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Wrong again.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

Hmm... I've read about the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagazaki, and many people survived the bomb, and for a long time. I mean, Ten will be in the air while the bomb goes off, falling and detonating. Ten will fly away from it.

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 07:48 PM

supersaqer

Aug 23 2014, 07:14 PM

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 04:34 PM

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Wrong.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Wrong again.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

Hmm... I've read about the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagazaki, and many people survived the bomb, and for a long time. I mean, Ten will be in the air while the bomb goes off, falling and detonating. Ten will fly away from it.

It's bigger and faster than you think. And those who survived where decently far from the epicenter.

Pelador

Aug 23 2014, 08:12 PM

Tien would need to move about 4 miles in less than a second to avoid the main blast. Then there's a secondary wave to avoid which is what creates the mushroom cloud. Followed by radiation so extreme that a normal human would collapse and die almost instantly if exposed. The height of the explosion reaches into the upper atmosphere where humans cannot breath. So being in the air won't help him.

supersaqer

Aug 23 2014, 09:29 PM

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 07:48 PM

supersaqer

Aug 23 2014, 07:14 PM

Itachi

Aug 23 2014, 04:34 PM

supersaqer

 

Radiation poisoning takes a lot of time to form, and it's not going to hurt Ten on the spot. Some people survived radiation poisoning for years. Ten wouldn't have a problem at all.

Wrong.

Quote:

 

Unlike conventional weapons, nuclear weapons release ionizing radiation: particles and rays given off by radioactive materials. At high doses, radiation kills cells, damages organs and causes rapid death.

supersaqer

 

The low end heat of it is not a problem to Ten. Many people survived the heat of it from a long distance, but were injured from it. Ten should have some kind of resistance to heat, so it wouldn't be a problem.

Wrong again.

Quote:

 

The heat from a thermonuclear blast can vaporize objects and living things over great distances. Depending on what sort of objects are in its path, a blast can even result in a firestorm of around 1000°C that can melt glass and several metals! This sort of fiery explosion on a Hiroshima-sized scale would scorch everything within a 1.2-mile radius.

Hmm... I've read about the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagazaki, and many people survived the bomb, and for a long time. I mean, Ten will be in the air while the bomb goes off, falling and detonating. Ten will fly away from it.

It's bigger and faster than you think. And those who survived where decently far from the epicenter.

So do you think they could hit Ten with a bomb? Maybe a nuclear missile, but it's nowhere near as powerful as a nuclear bomb.

Pelador

Aug 23 2014, 08:12 PM

Tien would need to move about 4 miles in less than a second to avoid the main blast. Then there's a secondary wave to avoid which is what creates the mushroom cloud. Followed by radiation so extreme that a normal human would collapse and die almost instantly if exposed. The height of the explosion reaches into the upper atmosphere where humans cannot breath. So being in the air won't help him.

King Piccolo survived in the epicenter of his own blast, which is superior to total energy of all nuclear testing as of 1996. You think a measly nuclear missile will do anything to Ten? Ten could easily kick it away. I mean Goku did it during the RRA. He kicked a missile strong enough to vaporize half a mountain, something I don't see nuclear missiles doing at all.

4 miles a second is not a big deal for Ten at this point. I mean, check Tao's feat. That Tao is much much much slower than this Ten.