Tenshinhan (23rd Tourney) vs. Entire U.S. Military

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Tenshinhan (23rd Tourney) vs. Entire U.S. Military
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POOHEAD189	Aug 16 2014, 05:01 PM Post #1
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	Tien at the 23rd vs. The Modern United States military. No Nukes, preferably, since this would probably be fought on American soil.
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3

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~~King Kakarot~~	Aug 22 2014, 12:59 PM Post #106
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Why does this guy keep saying Tien isn't super sonic? You sound like a broken record Read dragonball part 1 again heck look at tao pai pai feat they are clearly above the speed of sound. If you can't figure that out lol it doesn't need to be stated that character x is moving faster than the speed of sound use some common sense and basic math skills and you can clearly tell tien is much faster than sound Tao only got hurt by a grenade because kid goku beat the snot out of him Tao had the force of a bullet? I swear people say the craziest things this is the same tao that threw a pillar across the world right? Lol Tien still wins if piccolo could do it so can tien



+ supersaqer	Aug 22 2014, 01:28 PM Post #107
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Quote: I don't recall seeing any ki aura around it either. It was just a very sharp knife. In Dragon Ball, it is not necessary for the thing to show off aura to indicate that it has ki inside it. Quote: I estimate that the force Tao attacked was the same as a bullet coming out of a gun. Can you prove your claim? If it was that weak, then it would have shattered the moment it hit Ten. Goku, at the very beginning of the series, took a bullet at point blank range to the head, and shrugged it off seconds later. It is easily much much more powerful. Quote: I think if one grenade can mangle someone like Tao then Tien even at the 23rd isn't going to be tanking many explosions. That's not a normal grenade by any means, and at that time, Tao was crippled. It was either an extremely powerful grenade with a small radius, or it was a grenade that had tremendous amount of heat. Quote: Tien's flight speed at this time isn't super sonic. He isn't avoiding large blasts. Then tell me how he went there, picked up Goku, and got out of Piccolo's range that quick? A weakened Goku dodged a blast that crossed the gigantic island in a panel. Base Master Roshi, during the RRA Saga, caught an entire full clip of ammo from a SMG/MG in point blank range. SMG/MG bullets move at supersonic+ speeds. Quote: I don't know what island you're referring to. Papaya island didn't even look as big as the Isle of White let alone Australia. Again with your claims... Spoiler: click to toggle Edited by supersaqer, Aug 22 2014, 01:30 PM.
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+ Pelador	Aug 22 2014, 01:35 PM Post #108
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	There's no where in the original manga that shows Tien clearly moving at super sonic speeds. The kintoun was shown to be the fastest thing around right up until Radditz. I think that definitely moved faster than sound. But before Radditz showed up, no one came close. How am I sounding crazy? Tien's worried about getting stabbed by Tao. The same Tao who got exploded by a s***ty grenade. The jump from knife attack to missile explosion is pretty damn high in my book. And yeah for Tao to do that to Tien, if you think he can tank missiles and stuff then surely he has to be striking harder than bullets right? Cuz according to you people Tien just brushes them off. Tao did throw a pillar. We aren't told how far or how fast that pillar was moving. Several hours could have passed by the time he got to Goku. The Red Ribbon base might have even been nearby. We can only go by what's there. I'm not going to make assumptions. As far as I'm concerned munitions explosion > Knife> Tien.
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+ supersaqer	Aug 22 2014, 01:46 PM Post #109
Transcendent Posts: 5,117 Group: Elite Member Member #5,137 Joined: August 13, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Quote: There's no where in the original manga that shows Tien clearly moving at super sonic speeds. The kintoun was shown to be the fastest thing around right up until Radditz. I think that definitely moved faster than sound. But before Radditz showed up, no one came close. Then explain how Tien grabbed Goku, and flew out of the blast's radius that dwarfed mountains? We see Tien and Goku standing the panel before Piccolo fires his blast, and the next time we see them, they were absolutely fine. Explain that to me please. Quote: How am I sounding crazy? Tien's worried about getting stabbed by Tao. The same Tao who got exploded by a s***ty grenade. The jump from knife attack to missile explosion is pretty damn high in my book. And yeah for Tao to do that to Tien, if you think he can tank missiles and stuff then surely he has to be striking harder than bullets right? Cuz according to you people Tien just brushes them off. It wasn't the same Tao, but a much weaker Tao. In fact, that grenade is either powered by his ki, or that it's a massively powerful grenade. Obviously he's striking much more powerful than bullets, otherwise that won't even damage beginning of series Goku Quote: Tao did throw a pillar. We aren't told how far or how fast that pillar was moving. Several hours could have passed by the time he got to Goku. The Red Ribbon base might have even been nearby. Chapter: 85, P12.7 Context: before Tao Pai Pai takes off for the Karin Holy Land Tao Pai Pai: “It’s 2,300 kilometers northeast, huh?...Well then, I’ll be back in about 30 minutes.” Note: So in other words, Tao Pai Pai says he can throw a pillar 2,300 kilometers, jump on it and ride it all the way there, beat Goku, then come all the way back in about 30 minutes. This Tao is massively weaker than 23rd TB Cyborg Tao. Much much much weaker. Quote: We can only go by what's there. I'm not going to make assumptions. As far as I'm concerned munitions explosion > Knife> Tien. Sure the knife managed to hurt Ten a bit, but it's not stronger than him. I remember him breaking it. Explosions won't do anything to Ten .
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~~King Kakarot~~	Aug 22 2014, 01:52 PM Post #110
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Some people need feats spelled out for them lol Tao pai pai feat is all that needs to be said about super sonic speed It's like people never read part 1 the answer is as clear as day as to whether or not he's faster than the speed of sound Edited by King Kakarot, Aug 22 2014, 01:54 PM.



* Yu Narukami	Aug 22 2014, 02:30 PM Post #111
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Poor Tenshinhan would fall victim to all sorts of gas; mustard gas, tear gas, sleep gas. Unless he can somehow sense that they're vin the air, he's got no defence. Anyways, if he keeps using kiais to disperse the gas, he's going to get tired and leave himself open at the same time.



Mihawk	Aug 22 2014, 02:42 PM Post #112
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I don't see Vegito surviving the heat of a nuclear blast. Also Tao needed the support of a pillar which he guided with ki to reach those speeds (not to mention you are calculating).



~~King Kakarot~~	Aug 22 2014, 03:17 PM Post #113
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Itachi Aug 22 2014, 02:42 PM I don't see Vegito surviving the heat of a nuclear blast. Also Tao needed the support of a pillar which he guided with ki to reach those speeds (not to mention you are calculating). I won't even mention Vegito and a nuke what's your point if i'm calculating how do you expect me to figure out how fast he is Do you really need Akira to hold your hand and say '"Tao pai pai is moving at exactly mach x "? Can you not figure that out just by using some basic math do you honestly need it to be in big bold letters that take up half the page becuase it's not stated?Give me a break Also if calculating something like that is against forum rules as well lol this forums needs to get off it's high horse if you can't calculate something that gives you numbers and a distance i don't know how you can figure out anything speed related in dbz then I guess we can't calculate how fast goku is on snake way then even though a distance and timeframe is given Makes no sense to continue with this conversation then becuase no speed was ever stated on how fast they were moving in DBZ so everyone including beerus,whis and SSJG Goku are all slower than the speed of sound So the military wins /thread Edited by King Kakarot, Aug 22 2014, 03:18 PM.



+ Clearin	Aug 22 2014, 03:20 PM Post #114
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	If we're using speed feats and calculations then base Gohan from the Boo saga is about Mach 2, and he's a few million times stronger than Tien.



RaineStorm	Aug 22 2014, 03:22 PM Post #115
Posts: 210 Group: Member Member #11,521 Joined: July 17, 2014 Gender Female Country United States	I thought the grenade only damaged Tao so badly because it caught him off guard and he couldn't manage a defense in time?
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~~King Kakarot~~	Aug 22 2014, 03:24 PM Post #116
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Clearin Aug 22 2014, 03:20 PM If we're using speed feats and calculations then base Gohan from the Boo saga is about Mach 2, and he's a few million times stronger than Tien. Yeah not like Gohan can't be cruising or anything or massively weaker characters react to bullets or have better speed feats No such things as inconsistency in DBZ nope



+ Clearin	Aug 22 2014, 03:26 PM Post #117
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	King Kakarot Aug 22 2014, 03:24 PM No such things as inconsistency in DBZ nope So you agree that feats in DB are inconsistent? Great Then you must realise that trying to use any of them is pointless if they're contradicted by other feats, giving no "real" answer.



~~King Kakarot~~	Aug 22 2014, 03:31 PM Post #118
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Clearin Aug 22 2014, 03:26 PM King Kakarot Aug 22 2014, 03:24 PM No such things as inconsistency in DBZ nope So you agree that feats in DB are inconsistent? Great Then you must realise that trying to use any of them is pointless if they're contradicted by other feats, giving no "real" answer. SO that means we take the inconsistent feat although weaker characters have better feats and we know that characters get faster all throughout dbz based on visual evidence and statements by characters all throughout the manga But sure let's take the low end feats and pretend that they don't get faster Let's pretend Gohan at full power is mach 2 Let's also pretend weaker characters don't have better speed feats let's all pretend Common sense tells you it's inconsistent if it contradicts multiple feats made by weaker characters DBZ always gets stronger faster etc etc... they don't magically get weaker lmao Edited by King Kakarot, Aug 22 2014, 03:32 PM.



* Yu Narukami	Aug 22 2014, 03:31 PM Post #119
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	RaineStorm Aug 22 2014, 03:22 PM I thought the grenade only damaged Tao so badly because it caught him off guard and he couldn't manage a defense in time? Even if that were the case, Tenshinhan would have to constantly be on-guard for attacks coming from different directions. A ki blast from.a dazed, weakened Piccolo actually hurt Nappa, who was much, much stronger than him at that point.



RaineStorm	Aug 22 2014, 03:46 PM Post #120
Posts: 210 Group: Member Member #11,521 Joined: July 17, 2014 Gender Female Country United States	Naked Snake Aug 22 2014, 03:31 PM RaineStorm Aug 22 2014, 03:22 PM I thought the grenade only damaged Tao so badly because it caught him off guard and he couldn't manage a defense in time? Even if that were the case, Tenshinhan would have to constantly be on-guard for attacks coming from different directions. A ki blast from.a dazed, weakened Piccolo actually hurt Nappa, who was much, much stronger than him at that point. No I already conceded to the fact that Tien would totally die, if not from explosions then from chemicals. I just wanted to verify that I had interpreted that part correctly that Tao would have been better off if he had been able to guard against it. It makes sense to me that if on guard Tien could survive some very strong blasts, or even hide in a hole in the ground like he did, but it doesn't protect him 100% of the time and therein lies the problem.
	Spoiler: click to toggle "I don't know why, but something about Trunks getting punched in the face is just so adorable."


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