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| POOHEAD189 | Aug 16 2014, 05:01 PM Post #1 |
 
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Tien at the 23rd vs. The Modern United States military. No Nukes, preferably, since this would probably be fought on American soil. |
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| Mihawk | Aug 17 2014, 03:28 AM Post #61 |
 
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What wouldn't hurt him 1. The entire standing military 2. The entire navy What would hurt him 1. Bio weapons 2. Sleeping gas, most type of lethal gases 3. Any serious bombardment which has excessive heat (from the air force) |
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| POOHEAD189 | Aug 17 2014, 03:30 AM Post #62 |
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Yeah and an axe to the head didn't kill Goku at 10 PL. The reasoning is because Tao was super powered while the normal human wasn't. Tao himself, before his upgrade, could kill General Blue (a fricken human army) with his tongue. |
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| EMIYA | Aug 17 2014, 03:30 AM Post #63 |
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Its not about the speed of the weapons, its about the space they provide. Ten can probably avoid any direct shots at him as long as he knows they're coming. At this point his speed is can pretty dodge anything they throw at him as far as conventional weapons go. Their firepower when combined is definitely something Ten doesn't want to have to hit him. I mean you can kind of imagine if the US Military just got up and said "drop everything we've got..." on a place. That would be a tremendous amount of destruction that would spread out far. We can destroy cities at this point without having to use our full military might. But this won't matter if Ten sees it coming and can make plans to avoid it before hand. But then you bring in gas or biological warfare and you don't need to hit Ten directly anymore. You can drop some biological bombs all around Tenshinha a few kilometers away. You take a plane and just start spraying chemicals all through the air. The wind does some help for you. Sure you may lose a few of your own men, hundreds even thousands perhaps. But hey, sometimes it takes a sacrifice and Ten proves to be that kind of threat we'll have to do it. I mean, push comes shove, we have sex. We can make more babies and replace the people we've lost int he war if it means getting rid of a threat of this magnitude. And as far as Versus match goes, a win's a win. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Aug 17 2014, 03:40 AM Post #64 |
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I'm sure a good Kiai from Tien could dissipate anything that comes close. And I'm sure Tien's immune system is superhuman too, or his body couldn't handle what he does on a day to day basis. Plus, even if detonated a few kilometers away, they'd have to completely surround Tien for miles upon miles for him to not be able to get away quick enough. Yes if the entire military open fired on him at once and most got hits he'd probably be dead. But he's too numerous of a target. Edited by POOHEAD189, Aug 17 2014, 03:43 AM.
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| EMIYA | Aug 17 2014, 04:05 AM Post #65 |
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I don't recall Tenshinhan having to do any kind of training that helped against biological warfare. Mind you the much stronger and inhuman Yardrat Goku didn't stop from getting a virus. Direct physical attacks are one thing but internal ones are different. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Aug 17 2014, 04:18 AM Post #66 |
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That virus was special, like nothing anyone had ever seen before. In fact, powering up and getting stronger sped up the process. It goes against pretty much all logic. |
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| + supersaqer | Aug 17 2014, 04:37 AM Post #67 |
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A weakened King Piccolo survived in the epicenter of his blast, which completely wiped the city off the map, and dwarfed mountains. That Piccolo is weaker than Ten. It wasn't a normal knife, and you don't add in his physical strength. No, it wouldn't. How can you guys not understand the fact that Ten would wipe the entire US military? He's extremely fast, strong, durable, and horribly destructive. |
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| POOHEAD189 | Aug 17 2014, 04:46 AM Post #68 |
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While I agree Tien might be too much. I think that King Piccolo being in the center of his own blast isn't much. I don't think his own blast would hurt him. |
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| EMIYA | Aug 17 2014, 05:01 AM Post #69 |
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A virus is still a virus and there's nothing to say that Tenshinhan would be able to survive the chemical weapons that effect his body. In the end he is still human with a very human biology to him. Also how Tenshinhan going to destroy the entire military? King Piccolo had to strain himself to destroy an entire city and while Tenshinhan is much stronger than that, how much stronger does he have to be now to destroy the entire military. The military isn't just going to be in one nice little place all crunched together that Tenshinhan could start picking off with his Kikoho or something. The military, from ground forces, to air forces to the navy is going to be spread out all over the country. There's just no way Tenshinhan can start taking out the military without ultimately using up a lot of energy on his part to get the job done. This isn't like in the manga or anime where the army is composed of say a few hundred or so tanks and planes that are nice and together and easy pickings. If conventional weaponry turns out to be noneffective they'll switch to another plan like biological and chemical weapons and meanwhile Tenshinhan has been going out wasting energy and stuff. It's not easy when your one person facing off against firepower that can very well surpass King Piccolo's own if it was combined and messing around with chemical and biological warfare and you need to somehow defeat the combined massive military of the entire USA. There's just too many options for Tenshinhan getting hit by something that's going to cause problems for him to overall win in this situation. The problem here is the fact that, Tenshinhan wants to save energy. He doesn't have the power erase the USA military in one hit at all. The military i far too spread out and in different locations across the world for even his absolutely most powerful attack to reach all of them. Staying out in the open leaves too many chances of getting hit by something. Simply put, the last thing Tenshinhan wants to do is fight the military head on. The last thing he wants to do is stand out there in the middle of a battlefield and try to take on the ongoing onslaught of weapons be it conventional or chemical that start raining for kilometer around him. He's going to have to play it smart, keep his distance, don't stand out in the open and take cover. You said it yourself Poohead, the best option for Ten is a hit and run tactic. Try to take out a few then get out before they start dropping the big guns or something. Head somewhere else and repeat the process. It's going to be time consuming for sure though. |
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| + supersaqer | Aug 17 2014, 05:14 AM Post #70 |
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How won't his own blast him? He didn't have to strain himself. He did it extremely casually. You probably meant his other blast. His other blast completely demolished the bigger city, and it dwarfed mountains. His casual blast destroyed the city, and even the mayor said so. To give you more proof, my friend said that cities in Japan are often next to each other, or not far from each other. Ten would be fast enough to dodge anything coming. Instances of sensing something were shown as early as Goku vs Oolong. Ten won't have to strain himself much against the army, as he's massively stronger and faster than anything they have. He would blast the nearby soldiers and their tanks, choppers, etc... He could easily kick back any missile or projectile (not that he needs to). One blast would wipe out them, and then he goes and takes down the others. They have no way to take him down, and bio-weapons won't work immediately. Weapons fired in air will be dodged by Ten. He would crush any nearby chopper, leaving no chance for them to unleash anything. |
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| EMIYA | Aug 17 2014, 05:25 AM Post #71 |
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I remember King Piccolo doing two attacks to destroy a city. The first one he did to show his power over the King and we see the damage. He destroyed a city I guess in simple terms of how to explain it but the damage we see isn't anywhere as big as we expect an entire city to be destroyed. While the King says he destroyed a city, there's quite a bit left to be honest and the crater that we see doesn't appear to be all that large. In his fight against Goku when he uses his full power, this is where we see him actually annihilate the entire city, there's nothing left. Here, he's tired, sweating and has veins all over his head. Now of course it is also stated that King Piccolo's body gets weaker as he uses his full power and so he tries not to use it often and he has just been fighting Goku. Also while we're on it Why wouldn't King Piccolo's own blast hurt him? I mean if he does a weakened blast I suppose. But I mean if Piccolo tried to take on his own full powered blast don't think that would cause some problems. Unless you King Piccolo Endurance>>>Full powered Blast. |
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| + supersaqer | Aug 17 2014, 05:30 AM Post #72 |
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Here where my friend's statement break in. The leftover from the other city is most likely linked to the other, main city. Cities in Japan are next to each other, if not, close to each other. What supports this is the Mayor's statement, where he said he destroyed a city. He did it quite casually, with no trouble at all. That's because he was hurt and exhausted before. He was pummeled by Goku, and got Kamehameha'd in the face. Add in that he used his full power (which is the most power he had access at that time), and survived in the epicenter of the blast. Of course he would be really exhausted and weaker. Why not? We didn't see anyone who took on his own blast, and shrugged it off like nothing even happened. |
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| + Pyrus | Aug 17 2014, 06:06 AM Post #73 |
 
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I agree with Brofist and Pelador. A "bunker buster" would seriously wound Tenshinhan, if not kill him. There are so many aircraft (like this one) and naval ships that would decimate, or at least wound him to the point of being a vegetable, that it'd take too long to list and explain them all, so here are a bunch of links from Wikipedia (hurr durr): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_United_States_military_aircraft http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airships_of_the_United_States_Navy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aircraft_of_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missiles_by_nation#United_States I really don't see him surviving an onslaught of stealth bombers, especially if he's dealing with land and sea assaults at the same time that will most likely be dealing out biological affairs at some point. The weaponry is incredible. |
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| + supersaqer | Aug 17 2014, 06:21 AM Post #74 |
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How is that even possible? First of all, they wouldn't hit him. Even if we pretended that it would hit him, it won't do any damage at all. Ten breezes through this. |
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| + Pyrus | Aug 17 2014, 06:50 AM Post #75 |
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Tenshinhan's body is more durable than a heavily fortified bunker? I find that incredibly hard to buy into, let alone it being enough to stop not be hurt at all by THIS. That's a 30,000 pound bomb. Even if you were to argue him surviving its blast, which is again ridiculous, the weight alone would crush him, unless you're somehow going to try and argue DB characters could lift 30,000 pounds that early on. |
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