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Tenshinhan (23rd Tourney) vs. Entire U.S. Military
Topic Started: Aug 16 2014, 05:01 PM (6,801 Views)
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Tien at the 23rd vs. The Modern United States military. No Nukes, preferably, since this would probably be fought on American soil.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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Aug 24 2014, 01:22 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:19 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:17 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:09 AM
It's just surprising that Tenshinhan knows exactly what the planes that would drop the gas are going to do. He must have some insider knowledge or something.
Observation, he sees the group he's fighting retreating and notices the planes are in formation of attack. Not uncharacteristic for him.
So, how does he know that they're not going to shoot at him or bomb him? He wouldn't know exactly what they were planning to do, and that lack of knowledge would be his downfall.
Observation my friend. Besides even if they do both he'll be able to dodge easily. He wouldn't know but he'll be anticipating some form of abnormality.
If he can take their attacks so easily, why would he waste his time dodging? Infantrymen have gas masks, so they could launch an attack with gas while the troops keep him in place with an unrelenting offensive assault.
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The thing about gas is that it doesn't go away after exploding (or in this case, err, being released) like a bomb, it spreads.
Edited by Kyouks, Aug 24 2014, 01:28 AM.
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Aug 24 2014, 01:25 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:22 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:19 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:17 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:09 AM
It's just surprising that Tenshinhan knows exactly what the planes that would drop the gas are going to do. He must have some insider knowledge or something.
Observation, he sees the group he's fighting retreating and notices the planes are in formation of attack. Not uncharacteristic for him.
So, how does he know that they're not going to shoot at him or bomb him? He wouldn't know exactly what they were planning to do, and that lack of knowledge would be his downfall.
Observation my friend. Besides even if they do both he'll be able to dodge easily. He wouldn't know but he'll be anticipating some form of abnormality.
If he can take their attacks so easily, why would he waste his time dodging? Infantrymen have gas masks, so they could launch an attack with gas while the troops keep him in place with an unrelenting offensive assault.
You proven a point lol, but seeing Infantrymen would suggest to me that their planning their last resort which will be chemicals and gases. Being Tien, he ca just use a simple Kiai and dis-spell the gases outward from him, destroying theri trival gear and have them suffer from their own attack.
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Aug 24 2014, 01:29 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:25 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:22 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:19 AM
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Aug 24 2014, 01:17 AM
Naked Snake
Aug 24 2014, 01:09 AM
It's just surprising that Tenshinhan knows exactly what the planes that would drop the gas are going to do. He must have some insider knowledge or something.
Observation, he sees the group he's fighting retreating and notices the planes are in formation of attack. Not uncharacteristic for him.
So, how does he know that they're not going to shoot at him or bomb him? He wouldn't know exactly what they were planning to do, and that lack of knowledge would be his downfall.
Observation my friend. Besides even if they do both he'll be able to dodge easily. He wouldn't know but he'll be anticipating some form of abnormality.
If he can take their attacks so easily, why would he waste his time dodging? Infantrymen have gas masks, so they could launch an attack with gas while the troops keep him in place with an unrelenting offensive assault.
You proven a point lol, but seeing Infantrymen would suggest to me that their planning their last resort which will be chemicals and gases. Being Tien, he ca just use a simple Kiai and dis-spell the gases outward from him, destroying theri trival gear and have them suffer from their own attack.
Again, one breath does him in. He's watching the sky and the ground in all directions all the time? It's pretty much certain that he'd breathe in some gas at one point in the battle.
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But Snake, given the fact that Tenshinhan is a tall human, that must mean he has big lungs. Maybe he can hold his breath long enough to blitz the army!!!!!

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Lol this thread is getting tedious with all the bs responses. So instead I'm gonna give this a two way deal.

Tien: Wins without the military's chemicals.

U.S.: Wins with their chemicals.

Finished with this one.
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So you're trying to tell me that if this happened to Tenshinhan, that he would live?

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Army wins even by going green and dropping their "chemicals",
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Aug 24 2014, 12:51 AM
He finishes over 2 million solidiers and tanks, dozens of ships and 100's of planes and helicopters with a casual blast? Ok then.
Why not? Piccolo destroyed a city with a casual wave, and that Piccolo is way weaker than this Ten.

Unless the army can escape miles in milliseconds.

Ten would go all out. He'd send multiple ki blasts, and he will finish the job.
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He can't hurt jack with a casual ki blast. If Boo's charged KHH is only destroying part of a city, there's no way Ten is gonna destroy an entire army with a single blast, charged or not. All he did in the 22nd with his strongest attack was destroy part of the stadium.

And gas would only be used when they realize bullets aren't hurting him. They'd use it with stealth in that case, using invisible gas from the ground or something along those lines. Yeah he isn't winning this one.

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Aug 24 2014, 03:34 PM
He can't hurt jack with a casual ki blast. If Boo's charged KHH is only destroying part of a city, there's no way Ten is gonna destroy an entire army with a single blast, charged or not. All he did in the 22nd with his strongest attack was destroy part of the stadium.

And gas would only be used when they realize bullets aren't hurting him. They'd use it with stealth in that case, using invisible gas from the ground or something along those lines. Yeah he isn't winning this one.
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Piccolo casually waved his hand, and destroyed the city. The king states that the city disappeared. Now you guys will say that we see buildings standing there. My friend said that cities in Japan are next to each other or close to each other. That supports what the king said. So Piccolo is casually city level, and Ten is way stronger than him.

Vegeta's Gyarikku Hou was going to destroy the Earth. Unless you're going to say Vegeta > Boo, Toriyama didn't want Boo to destroy the Earth.

So he'd blast them guys everywhere, and would kill them. It's as simple as that.

EDIT: He destroyed most of the stadium, and not just that, we don't know the depth his Kikoho reached. All what you see is a black pitch. It could be really really deep.
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You have to take into account that the U.S. has many different ways to dispose of areas the size of cities without the use of nukes. With the amount of jets, missiles, ground vehicles, and soldiers would be enough to overwhelm these characters.
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Piccolo casually waved his hand, and destroyed the city.

Based on the scans you've posted, there's no evidence of casual at all. If you're basing it on charge time then Boo had more charge time and still did the same amount of damage.

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My friend said that cities in Japan are next to each other or close to each other. That supports what the king said. So Piccolo is casually city level, and Ten is way stronger than him.

DB isn't based on Japan.

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Vegeta's Gyarikku Hou was going to destroy the Earth. Unless you're going to say Vegeta > Boo, Toriyama didn't want Boo to destroy the Earth.

The point you raised here is known as inconsistency. Inconsistency and hyperbole aren't battle tools as they are used here in other versus. When there's an inconsistency you leave the topic alone, not pick and choose which one suits your side. If you do that you'd be biased, which is fine by the way, but you'd be lacking an objective answer to the topic at hand.

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EDIT: He destroyed most of the stadium, and not just that, we don't know the depth his Kikoho reached. All what you see is a black pitch. It could be really really deep.

I'll give you that I guess. I'd have to read the panel to be sure but I honestly doubt its verticality is anywhere near the size of a city.

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Based on the scans you've posted, there's no evidence of casual at all. If you're basing it on charge time then Boo had more charge time and still did the same amount of damage.
It was casual, and was suggested later. He even said he'd use his full power now when he launched his second blast.

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DB isn't based on Japan.
But that's where Toriyama lived. He knew that cities were next to each other, or fairly close to each other. It wouldn't be out of Toriyama's character to do something like that.

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The point you raised here is known as inconsistency. Inconsistency and hyperbole aren't battle tools as they are used here in other versus. When there's an inconsistency you leave the topic alone, not pick and choose which one suits your side. If you do that you'd be biased, which is fine by the way, but you'd be lacking an objective answer to the topic at hand.
It is not inconsistency. I proved in an old topic here that 23rd TB Goku is moon level. That moves fine as we've seen Piccolo generating enough power to wipe and raze an island comparable to the size of a small continent even though Goku absorbed some of the blast.

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I'll give you that I guess. I'd have to read the panel to be sure but I honestly doubt its verticality is anywhere near the size of a city.
We see nothing but an enormous black pitch there, and it was day time. It should be deep. It also shouldn't be the size of a city to be city level. That was 22nd TB Ten, and we're debating 23rd TB Ten.
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There are veins visible on Piccolo Daimao's head, and the expression on his face when he launches the attack is serious. It's not full power, but it certainly wasn't casual.
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Aug 24 2014, 04:14 PM
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Aug 24 2014, 03:34 PM
He can't hurt jack with a casual ki blast. If Boo's charged KHH is only destroying part of a city, there's no way Ten is gonna destroy an entire army with a single blast, charged or not. All he did in the 22nd with his strongest attack was destroy part of the stadium.

And gas would only be used when they realize bullets aren't hurting him. They'd use it with stealth in that case, using invisible gas from the ground or something along those lines. Yeah he isn't winning this one.
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Piccolo casually waved his hand, and destroyed the city. The king states that the city disappeared. Now you guys will say that we see buildings standing there. My friend said that cities in Japan are next to each other or close to each other. That supports what the king said. So Piccolo is casually city level, and Ten is way stronger than him.

Vegeta's Gyarikku Hou was going to destroy the Earth. Unless you're going to say Vegeta > Boo, Toriyama didn't want Boo to destroy the Earth.

So he'd blast them guys everywhere, and would kill them. It's as simple as that.

EDIT: He destroyed most of the stadium, and not just that, we don't know the depth his Kikoho reached. All what you see is a black pitch. It could be really really deep.
That's the wrong blast. That only destroyed part of the city.
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In this panel you can see most of the city still largely intact, with only a small area that has been destroyed. If you want to claim that's another city right next to the Kings city (which looks highly unlikely to me based on the position of the blast and buildings) then it was an absolutely tiny city he destroyed compared to the Kings city.

Piccolo destroys the city with this blast.
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